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azropedntied -> Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 10:53:42 AM)
I know i can not be the only one this has ever happened to.Most of us all have "toy bags" , some like me have way more than one .I was running late to an event and i only had the two bags this time one fire and cupping bag w/ first aid items , the other my large bat bag stuffed full of some of my bdsm toys .I was not going at break neck speed just a tad over so i really was not worried when i was pulled over and the female officer was nice enough .Then she had to ask if i had any weapons and what was in the bag .? I replied not to be a smart ass but i guess it depends on what you define as a weapon . I told her i had no guns with me but i did have some weapons including knives ,whips ,clubs ,and a stun gun and violet wand , maybe some others .I was not in the least embarrassed and i said i could show you , she gave my the step outta the vehicle and called for back up .I wonder if she called out on the radio dangerous freak need back up. her back up arrived , the larger of the bags was brought out onto the hood of the car and they started going through it and pulling things out .I gave permission , i had nothing to hide , everything i do is consensual and i had to give a lesson on the road side on some bdsm 101 .I explained how some things worked and no the 4 riding crops had nothing to do with horsemanship "unless i was the pony " and then told them about cupping right there on the side of the road .Now even more late than i was prior I told them all i really needed to get on my way in the most polite way but if they really wanted to learn more about what bdsm really is to come on out to some events and classes and even to visit me when i vend maybe pick something up. They were more red faced seeing the contents of the bags in question than i was being honest in telling them all about them .I then got the "slow it down " warning and was sent on my way after repacking my items .I guess the lesson here maybe for less hassle i shall now place the bags in the rear VS the front seat .Though it was kinda fun makin cops blush it was inconvenient yet i understand they were doing their job .I can only imagine that my stop gave them something to talk about .I was also glad they were not filming COPS that night , but the only thing i did was go 5 mph over the speed limit and was honest .Though i would caution ya all to be aware of local state and other laws where you are and where your traveling to and from . In some states for example a fixed blade is a No no .Take care out there .

LadyHathor -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 11:02:35 AM)
*smiles, been there, done that on BOTH sides of the badge---that's how I got into doing some of the things I do---from being a New Orleans cop---lol* Just remember, they have the right to search anything in plain view and your response was perfect--and she should have called for backup if she was alone, that's standard procedure, it also provides a witness for searches--( and I'm sure your stop will be the talk of the watch for days to come!)---I make sure at least that everything is in bags if possible--zip lock bags, makes it easier to pack and unpack---however--them pulling out a flogger to full length in broad daylight is a scream as one stands there completely deadpan. *And you are right about the laws, some things MUST be in the trunk and others, well you just need to ship them or do without.*

Casie -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 11:02:39 AM)
Thats pretty darn funny. I bet that will be something they talk about at the station for a while. Perhaps a story for the grandkids? hehe

JohnWarren -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 11:08:03 AM)
Generally cops are only interested in protecting themselves. The best approach is to keep things you don't want them to ask about in the back seat or in the trunk; way, way out of reach. Fourth Amendment rights have been pretty much watered down, so the best protection is not to stand out from the crowd. Be polite, keep your hands on the wheel and smile.... even when she starts to put on the latex glove

MsSaskia -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 11:42:29 AM)
Sounds like you handled that really well! Good job! A friend of mine got pulled over on the highway a few years ago. A female trooper was asking for license, registration, etc. when she glanced into the back seat. There was a woman, face down, blindfolded, gagged and hogtied. The skirt was hiked up enough that, on second glance, it became apparent it wasn't a genetic female lying there. She immediately called for backup. When the other SIX cars arrived, she had my friend step out of the vehicle and then the troopers opened the door to the back seat and took the blindfold and gag off the transvestite there. Who started laughing her ass off and was clearly not remotely traumatized. The troopers were so surprised, scandalized and relieved that it wasn't a kidnap situation that they completely forgot to write a speeding ticket and didn't even notice the open container of alcohol in the front seat. The TV date couldn't stop giggling all night, despite my friend's best efforts to distract her, and he's got some very distracting skills.

azropedntied -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 11:53:53 AM)
I can only think of what the stories of the freak in a jeep stop tales were .I also saw some of the passing motorists faces when she pulled out a bull whip and long dragons tail , and bright purple & black floggers , i certainly slowed traffic down . And your right i usually place bags like that in the back , mainly for security and away from theft .But as i was in a hurry i plopped them in the front .Made for a fun tale yet made me even more late .Now it always goes in the back . Maybe for me to not stand out in the crowd i need a white plain honda civic VS a lifted bright orange jeep lol In the end i knew i did nothing wrong , i was honest , i have no criminal record or past or intent "other than speeding slightly " and i had no problem giving a roadside education to the officers , even though it did make me more tardy getting to my event .Thankfully they were pretty much cool with the whole thing as i was too, also thankful they did not pull apart the whole entire 2 bags ,nor damage anything .guess 1/2 was enough to satisfy their curiosity .

azropedntied -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 11:58:41 AM)
Thank You Ma'am .I tried to handle it all in stride [:)] Now thats another good one Ms Saskia , wheew i knew i could not be the only one ! LOL .. I seem to get encouners with the likes of law enforcement ,the forest service ,and TSA airport security . Which reminds me when flying to Thunder this year, do any who fly have suggestions ?I was thinking of mailing my bdsm items ahead to the hotel to avoid problems .

domahpet -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 12:18:53 PM)
mailing is good. my sis did it going to the family wedding in MS, and i did not. guess who still had all their clothes on when thay landed? sure wasnt me!

Missokyst -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 1:40:08 PM)
LOL damn that is hot. WHY WHY WHY don't officers pull me over and examine the bag in my trunk!? I would love describing the uses while I am wildly blushing like a virgin and lowering my eyes to their boots. Why have I been cursed to be a law abiding citizen? Danged upbringing.. grrrrrrrrr Kyst

SteelofUtah -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 1:43:51 PM)
Same Story different outcome. I am VERY Honest when I get pulled over however my Knives, HandCuffs, Mantacles, and Medical Scalpals and Accupuncture needles were all confiscated and never returned I was released and not issued a ticket however I also lost nearly $280.00 worth of things. I will say you got lucky as anything longer than the length of your hand knife wise is Illegal to carry in Nevada. And Handcuffs, at least the brand I had, were not civilan issue (I was told and later told that was bullshit) and so they took those. The Scalpals and Accupuncture needles were a bigger issue because they didn't knwo why I had them. Anyway Things CAN get Ugly no matter how good you act. I was a Model Citizen and because there was no grounds to arrest me they didn't but I was sure treated like a Miscreant or a Criminal. Steel

thornhappy -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 2:02:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: azropedntied Thank You Ma'am .I tried to handle it all in stride [:)] Now thats another good one Ms Saskia , wheew i knew i could not be the only one ! LOL .. I seem to get encouners with the likes of law enforcement ,the forest service ,and TSA airport security . Which reminds me when flying to Thunder this year, do any who fly have suggestions ?I was thinking of mailing my bdsm items ahead to the hotel to avoid problems . I've also heard that checking as luggage, with stuff in clear bags, is also a good way to go. 2 or 3 day shipping with UPS or FEDEX might be another method. thornhappy

MontrealPhoenix -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 2:16:13 PM)
A friend of mine went through the same thing, only in his case it was while going through airport security check. They too pulled out all his toys, but in his case he could see that the idea was to embarrass him. He said that their eyes really widened when he explained how nipple clamps work and in the end the only thing they kept was some plastic ties he uses as cuffs. Bottom line, he no longer tries to get a bag of toys through security, he plays where he knows toys will be available..

UncleNasty -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 2:27:31 PM)
John, et. al., Our fouth amendment rights have been watered down, true enough. One of the reasons is that the people have taken it upon themselves to make alterations like not standing out from the crowd. I grant that your suggestion is an easy way to deal with it. In the overall I don't view it as the best way though. We are a Constitutional Republic (not a Democracy) and the power does reside with the people. As citizens we have obligations. Among them are to know what our rights are and to make sure they are never breeched. Also to know the limits and disabilities of law enforcement, and other governmental bodies, at all levels. Uncle Nasty

chellekitty -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 3:05:15 PM)
FR... my biggest problem has been traveling by air...for some reason i always get picked for "random" searches...i wish they would learn to "randomly" pick out people with names they new how to pronounce as well as those they did not - my father is from Sri Lanka...if you know of the cities in Sri Lanka, my last name sounds like that...lol - and every time i have flown since 9/11 i have been pulled aside for a special search at least one point durring my trip...what really irritated me the last time is they would not allow me to pack an unfilled butane penis lighter (that had the flame coming from the tip!!) in my checked luggage, yet they let other people carry a bic in their pocket on the air plane...i don't mean to sound paranoid...but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you....i have had but plugs and dildos and rope and floggers and bullwhips all pulled out of my luggage...there was that one time i tried to tell them they might not want to go through the bag with the butt plug in it at the terminal...but...the man blushed and after he found nothing crimnal he let me go.... maybe i shall change my name to something nice and american, like chavez...or morales....hey, i am brown...lemme alone... chelle...

stef -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 3:08:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHathor *smiles, been there, done that on BOTH sides of the badge---that's how I got into doing some of the things I do---from being a New Orleans cop---lol* *Just remember, they have the right to search anything in plain view and your response was perfect* If you were a New Orleans cop, then you should know that police do not have the right to search anything in plain view. There is no probable cause to search a closed bag in a vehicle if the bag is visible by an officer. If the bag is open and they see something in it that you shouldn't have, that's a different story. As for the perfect response, that would have been "No officer, I have nothing illegal in the vehicle." The folks at www.flexyourrights.com made a fantastic video called BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters that shows how to conduct yourself during a traffic stop and be courteous to the officer(s) and protect your rights at the same time. *Everyone* should watch it. ~stef

cjan -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 4:35:42 PM)
Lots of good legal info and tips on how to protect your rights on that video. Thanks for posting it, stef!

IronBear -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 5:02:16 PM)
Been there more times than I can remember. Usually walking carrying a suspiciouys "Weapons Bag". Most times when searched I was carying my armolur and metal weapons to a demo, tournament or training session. One thing I always do and this applies with the bag I pack my ritual gear in as well and which goes everywhere, is to padlock the bag so that I can never be thought to have my strange collection of weapons in a fast use possition for the odd nervy officer. I am legaly armed 99% of the time when I leave home and the law know it and I do carry bagged a variety if firearms fo and from a range under an instructort's licenced. The point is even wqith my toy bag, locally here if the law knows and if I carry all my permants and warrant card there will never be any hassel. Iron Bear Master of Bruin Cottage (A Victorian Lifestyle poly home) "I judge a Man by what I see him do and not by what others tell me he does." (Captain Sir Edward Pellew of the HMS Indefatigable to Midshipman Hornblower ~ C.S. Forrester)

StormsSlave -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/29/2008 11:20:55 PM)
I'm going to steal my daughters story. She won't mind. My daughter and her boyfriend came in the door. My daughter says, "You may get a call from the cops, mom." So, I'm thinking vandalism or pot...you know, teenager stuff. Turns out she and the boyfriend were experiementing with bondage. He had her tied up in the back of his mini-van. They had stopped at Wal-mart to buy some condoms (good girl!) and were stopped on the way out by two policemen who informed the bf they had received a report of a girl being kidnapped. My daughter, red-faced I'm sure, had to explain to a male police officer (one who regularly stopped to give her a ride home from work late at night here in our small town) that it was concensual and she had asked to be tied up. At least it wasn't the gorgeous cop we both have the hots for. [;)] This is her first "real" sexual relationship, so I found it hysterical, of course. Once I picked my laughing self up off the floor and wiped the tears out of my eyes, I was able to assure her I wouldn't make it worse for them than it was. I was hoping to discuss it with the cops; I never did get a call. I bet they are still talking about it down at the cop shop.

azropedntied -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/30/2008 12:24:18 AM)
Once again that just proves it , walmart is a dangerous evil place .[;)] Thanks for sharing s/s perfect timming for that story ,and your a very understanding parent .smiles I would like to thank everyone for sharing , i knew i was not alone and that link posted is a great one .Knowing your rights as well as the law is a good thing be it this country or another .

Gwynvyd -> RE: Then the Officer ask's, whats in the bag? (3/31/2008 12:10:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty FR... my biggest problem has been traveling by air...for some reason i always get picked for "random" searches...i wish they would learn to "randomly" pick out people with names they new how to pronounce as well as those they did not - my father is from Sri Lanka...if you know of the cities in Sri Lanka, my last name sounds like that...lol - and every time i have flown since 9/11 i have been pulled aside for a special search at least one point durring my trip...what really irritated me the last time is they would not allow me to pack an unfilled butane penis lighter (that had the flame coming from the tip!!) in my checked luggage, yet they let other people carry a bic in their pocket on the air plane...i don't mean to sound paranoid...but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you....i have had but plugs and dildos and rope and floggers and bullwhips all pulled out of my luggage...there was that one time i tried to tell them they might not want to go through the bag with the butt plug in it at the terminal...but...the man blushed and after he found nothing crimnal he let me go.... maybe i shall change my name to something nice and american, like chavez...or morales....hey, i am brown...lemme alone... chelle... I happen to like little brown girls... ( I have one ) Does this look familiar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy9y6FEAcSI I loved that scene! Gwyn

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