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WillowRain -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/2/2008 3:53:01 PM)

I really understand why this is hard for you. My wish for you is that you find the strength to protect yourself and make choices that are good for you. He doesn't have a track record with you of looking out for his needs AND yours.

He needs something, he isn't offering something, there is a huge difference there.

I understand why this is hard. I'm sure your heart is in agony. Choose your safety, happiness and well being, because... this man isn't and won't.




Maya2001 -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/2/2008 5:49:58 PM)

The only person you would be betraying is yourself if you choose to go back with ... if he loved you he would have wanted you as you were, trying to make you some else is not loving you......keeping repeatijng all the resons you and him are not together  unil it sinks in and you  finally accept he is just wanting to use you


You do not have to destroy your life to show caring and respect ...  instead direct him to support  services that can be of use to him if you feel that you owe him something




trueshadow -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/6/2008 6:29:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

He's an ex. He didn't want you back before, but now he's looking for an unpaid nurse.

Tell him you're sorry to hear about his news, and you'll keep him in your thoughts, and hopefully it might not be back after all.

If he pushes, tell him you're sorry, but you've given your word to someone else and you aren't available. The fact that your word was given to your new boss is immaterial. You gave it and you are planning not to take it back.

And if he keeps hassling you, change your number.


Some hard-hearted posts on this subject.  Isn't at least some sympathy for him possible?  If it is true that his cancer is back, is it incurable at that point?

I've been faced with serious health problems and if I received replies such as I've seen here, well, at least I know where I stood.

Let's put it in terms I can more readily identify with.  I've had three serious, long-term relationships (married or not).  I still care for each one of them.  After all, I was deeply in love with each of them, in their turn.

I would do what I could.  I wouldn't move back in with them, but if indeed they were facing death, I would want to provide reasonable support, and I'd hug them and tell them good-bye (at the least). 

The bottom line is, do you care for him more than you care for your job and new life? 




AquaticSub -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/6/2008 6:32:32 PM)

I have sympathy for a dying man.  I don't have sympathy for someone who uses their illness to get what they want, particularly when what they want is something they had no use for until they were in need.

Having cancer and going through serious health problems doesn't automatically make someone a nice person who is worth helping and quitting your job for just because they have health problems and bothered to call.




trueshadow -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/6/2008 6:39:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adoracat

i second this.  i was there for fallcon the 4 months it took for cancer to take him from me.  it is NOT a good place to have to be when you are absolutely sure you want to be there for the person in the process of dying.

i can imagine it would be much much worse if you were only guilted into doing it.  guilt is not a motivation for performing loving duties.  ever.

kitten



Wow!  I've read every one of the posts here.  What a hard-hearted group of people!  I've taken care of my mother when she was very sick.  I did the same for my father.  I've dropped everything to sit by my ex-girlfriend's side while she was on a ventilator in the ICU.

I'm glad for everyone who posted here.  I have a much greater insight into your hearts than I have had before. 

It's enough to make me choose vanilla. 

Maybe this is why kinky folks have never worked out for me.

BTW, I rescue animals, I give money to many causes, the homeless to veterans to orphans to whales to baby seals. 

But, as statistics have borne out time and time again, liberals are quite stingy with charity.  Conservatives are much more generous.  I don't know why that is, but I see a glimpse here.

I've just learned a heck of a lot in the past 20 minutes, more so than in years of being in the community.




abeke -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/6/2008 6:43:32 PM)

    I'd tell that little person, I am the adult and I am in control.   We are taking this job and make sure OUR needs are met.   I think that in order for me to give up control to someone else, I first must have control over myself.  




Poetryinpain -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/6/2008 6:51:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: trueshadow
Wow!  I've read every one of the posts here.  What a hard-hearted group of people!  I've taken care of my mother when she was very sick.  I did the same for my father.  I've dropped everything to sit by my ex-girlfriend's side while she was on a ventilator in the ICU.

I'm glad for everyone who posted here.  I have a much greater insight into your hearts than I have had before. 

It's enough to make me choose vanilla. 

Maybe this is why kinky folks have never worked out for me.

BTW, I rescue animals, I give money to many causes, the homeless to veterans to orphans to whales to baby seals. 

But, as statistics have borne out time and time again, liberals are quite stingy with charity.  Conservatives are much more generous.  I don't know why that is, but I see a glimpse here.

I've just learned a heck of a lot in the past 20 minutes, more so than in years of being in the community.


So -- you'd give up the one chance you have at a job you love which will make your career in order to go back to someone you left (for good and sufficient reasons) just because he snapped his fingers and said, "You will do this."

I find that hard to believe.

BTW, I also give to charitable organizations, I even serve on the Board of Directors of a local organization. But I wouldn't drop my future because the past was trying to run a guilt trip on me. I would research and suggest other options as I (as politely as possible) told him I would not be coming back to him.

pip, not guilty and not taking the guilt trip




lronitulstahp -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/6/2008 6:56:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: trueshadow

quote:

ORIGINAL: adoracat

i second this.  i was there for fallcon the 4 months it took for cancer to take him from me.  it is NOT a good place to have to be when you are absolutely sure you want to be there for the person in the process of dying.

i can imagine it would be much much worse if you were only guilted into doing it.  guilt is not a motivation for performing loving duties.  ever.

kitten



Wow!  I've read every one of the posts here.  What a hard-hearted group of people!  I've taken care of my mother when she was very sick.  I did the same for my father.  I've dropped everything to sit by my ex-girlfriend's side while she was on a ventilator in the ICU.

I'm glad for everyone who posted here.  I have a much greater insight into your hearts than I have had before. 

It's enough to make me choose vanilla. 

Maybe this is why kinky folks have never worked out for me.

BTW, I rescue animals, I give money to many causes, the homeless to veterans to orphans to whales to baby seals. 

But, as statistics have borne out time and time again, liberals are quite stingy with charity.  Conservatives are much more generous.  I don't know why that is, but I see a glimpse here.

I've just learned a heck of a lot in the past 20 minutes, more so than in years of being in the community.
Of course...but not your EX mother, EX father or EX gf...they were over...he's not her family.  He's someone who was out of her life basically until he found out he "may" be stricken with a dread disease...Big difference.




nwcutie102 -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/6/2008 7:32:01 PM)

do you love him? why did you part? where is your heart? these are questions you must ask. give it alittle time.... the answer will come to you




adoracat -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/7/2008 1:01:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: trueshadow

quote:

ORIGINAL: adoracat

i second this.  i was there for fallcon the 4 months it took for cancer to take him from me.  it is NOT a good place to have to be when you are absolutely sure you want to be there for the person in the process of dying.

i can imagine it would be much much worse if you were only guilted into doing it.  guilt is not a motivation for performing loving duties.  ever.

kitten



Wow!  I've read every one of the posts here.  What a hard-hearted group of people!  I've taken care of my mother when she was very sick.  I did the same for my father.  I've dropped everything to sit by my ex-girlfriend's side while she was on a ventilator in the ICU.

I'm glad for everyone who posted here.  I have a much greater insight into your hearts than I have had before. 

It's enough to make me choose vanilla. 

Maybe this is why kinky folks have never worked out for me.

BTW, I rescue animals, I give money to many causes, the homeless to veterans to orphans to whales to baby seals. 

But, as statistics have borne out time and time again, liberals are quite stingy with charity.  Conservatives are much more generous.  I don't know why that is, but I see a glimpse here.

I've just learned a heck of a lot in the past 20 minutes, more so than in years of being in the community.


OOoo you chose my post to respond to!

ok.  i wasnt clear, perhaps, i get that way.  i spent 4 months clinging to hope that the Sir i loved was going to pull through from colon cancer that had already gone and formed tumors in the liver.  surgery that wasnt able to fix anything but give him a colostomy bag to deal with.  gone against my nature to go toe-to-toe with doctors who kept reducing the pain meds that didnt give him any relief.

when they stick a new doc on the case, and he sees you, and the FIRST thing out of his mouth is "no, i'm not changing his meds!" you know you have a rep.

four months of watching your loved one die is hell.  two weeks before he died, we went with hospice, and he didnt get any more treatments, just pain relief.  the last words he spoke (two days before he died) were "are these the people who are going to help me die?" and i answered "yes" with tears running down my face.

i wouldnt have traded ONE SECOND of that time.  i hated every minute of it at the same time.  and i loved fallcon.  doing that for someone who treated me like i was unimportant while we had been together and didnt want me for anything but to take care of him?  no way i'd do that.

kitten, going off to cry again over the two Sirs who passed away




OsideGirl -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/7/2008 7:56:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: trueshadow



Wow!  I've read every one of the posts here.  What a hard-hearted group of people!  I've taken care of my mother when she was very sick.  I did the same for my father.  I've dropped everything to sit by my ex-girlfriend's side while she was on a ventilator in the ICU.

I'm glad for everyone who posted here.  I have a much greater insight into your hearts than I have had before. 

It's enough to make me choose vanilla. 

Maybe this is why kinky folks have never worked out for me.

BTW, I rescue animals, I give money to many causes, the homeless to veterans to orphans to whales to baby seals. 

But, as statistics have borne out time and time again, liberals are quite stingy with charity.  Conservatives are much more generous.  I don't know why that is, but I see a glimpse here.

I've just learned a heck of a lot in the past 20 minutes, more so than in years of being in the community.
There's a difference between offering support/sympathy....and giving up your life for an ex. You can be a friend....and not be in romatic relationship. You can be a shoulder without being someone's submissive. I don't think anyone here has suggested that she not be supportive, offer sympathy, be a friend or be a shoulder.

This man is using his illness to force a D/s relationship. He's demanding, not asking, that someone give up their life course for him. Which is wrong regardless of whether you have cancer or not. Having an illness is not an excuse to manipulate someone else.

My ex and I broke up the day before I had my doctor's appointment. I knew the moment she said that she wanted to take a biopsy, that my cancer was back. I did not call him to tell him because I knew he'd obligated. When the doctor called me to tell me that the test was positive, I did not call him because I knew he'd feel obligated. I went through surgery and radiation therapy with the help of friends, never once calling him because I knew he'd feel obligated.

I wouldn't have dreamed of using my illness to manipulate him back to my side.




Maya2001 -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/7/2008 6:10:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: trueshadow

quote:

ORIGINAL: adoracat

i second this.  i was there for fallcon the 4 months it took for cancer to take him from me.  it is NOT a good place to have to be when you are absolutely sure you want to be there for the person in the process of dying.

i can imagine it would be much much worse if you were only guilted into doing it.  guilt is not a motivation for performing loving duties.  ever.

kitten



Wow!  I've read every one of the posts here.  What a hard-hearted group of people!  I've taken care of my mother when she was very sick.  I did the same for my father.  I've dropped everything to sit by my ex-girlfriend's side while she was on a ventilator in the ICU.

I'm glad for everyone who posted here.  I have a much greater insight into your hearts than I have had before. 

It's enough to make me choose vanilla. 

Maybe this is why kinky folks have never worked out for me.

BTW, I rescue animals, I give money to many causes, the homeless to veterans to orphans to whales to baby seals. 

But, as statistics have borne out time and time again, liberals are quite stingy with charity.  Conservatives are much more generous.  I don't know why that is, but I see a glimpse here.

I've just learned a heck of a lot in the past 20 minutes, more so than in years of being in the community.


Hmmm your not the only other person in life to offer aid , and not everyone is worthy of receiving charity, and I consider myself liberal not conservative.    I also have volunteered in animal rescue doing the hands on stuff such as fostering, transporting, caring rehab, training , assessments, adoption of special needs hard to adopt animals  etc as well as financial aid in the form of monetary, gifts and doing fund raising auctions and sponsorship, walkathons  plus payroll deductions. 

But in doing charity work one has to use wisdom and learn how to make the best use of their time... it is easy to go overboard, burn yourself out, or not make good use of your charity such that you limit your or simply end up destroying yourself so that you end up hit a road block that ends you ability to continue offering aid.  I have seen people get way in over their heads rescuing animals to the point that the animals then need to be rescued from the rescuer becasue they became incapable of handling so many and could not finacially care for them so the entire group was put in jeopardy.  So when volunteering to help one also needs to know where to draw the line, as you are not going be of help longterm  if you ending up drowning yourself in the process.  So it does requiring using  some common sense to know how to deliver the help most effectively.  over the longterm without crippling yourself  in the process,  I also do some screening before making the decision to give for charity, not all aid giving is well used many including  animal rights groups line their pockets with the donations with little to no direct aid to the animals they claim they are wanting to help and some of the biggest groups are the worst, so I am very selective on who I am going to help inorder that my aid is not just going to be taken advantage of.  which is one of the points of OP has to has herself is the person asking for aid going to take advantage of.

The OP can still be of assistance if she chooses and if he will accept without having to making a total commitment to him in what she already knows would be unhealthy for her and would end up ruining her own long term goals, and how can it be good decision if in the end it ruins her future and possibly prevents her of being of aid to others or worse yet in the ending maybe put in a position where she will be the one requiring aid to extract her out of the situation.

Here is a good example of a situation I refused to provide aid, I sometimes offer help with funding for medical care for an injured animal through auctions,   the owner  lived right next to rural highway and had a young dog that was hit by a car and severly injured  needing several thousand for surgery ,,, the owner went as far as writing a newspaper editorial  fully blaming the driver for speeding.   Now my reason for refusing was that the owner accepted no blame of their own, even if the drivers had been going half the speed limit and a dog dashes out in front chances are it would get killed in this story the dog is damned lucky to be alive regardless of the speed of the driver even if tit had been hit at 15 mph the result could have been a dead dog, since the owner was not willing to accept responsibility that they could have prevented to accident by ensuring the dog was preventing being on the highway  meant they probably would continue to let the dog run at large even after a successful surgery so as good chance the dog will get killed or injured again  so by offering aid I am not helping that animal instead subjecting it to further owner irresponsibility  and likely future pain of been hit again , the dog at the time was under the care  of the vet so pain was managed, they were not poverty cases or living on a fixed goverment income and were living  better off financially then myself, just were not willing to make the sacrifices themselves which further irked me to no end....to me they were irresponsible jerks willing to take advantage of others, so to me not worthy of recieving charity and would not have brought me joy in helping only left me with the basd taste of being used.   .  Instead I ended up helping an adoption group that needed food desperately as they had been impacted by one of the Florida hurricanes so helped roughly  40 dogs eat for a month   and provided aid toward a dog that broke its leg.  Sometimes you have to make hard decisions and be willing to say no inorder to make the best use of yourself and accept not everyone is worthy of receiving charity,  and   from the situation the OP has described it sure as heck does not seem like the Dom in question is worthy of charity but is using the situation to take advantage of her especially when he has no confirmation yet that he does in fact have cancer nevermind whether it is life threatening  and having cancer does not have to mean death sentence or does it necessarily make you an invalid ... I am still here today 25 years afte my diagnosis with ovarian cancer doing well and successfully  without needing a caretaker... came home from surgery  and  cared for my then 3 year old  son on my own  and there is a whole lot more cancer support services around today than there was 25 years ago.    


















angelikaJ -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/7/2008 6:13:42 PM)

(((hugs)))




shigglyboom -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/7/2008 6:34:41 PM)

Clearlight,

It is a very hard thing when someone you have loved, or liked, or even just know is diagnosed with cancer, regardless of whether you still feel the same about them. Plus it is obvious that you still view this man with care and respect, and that is fine. People too often jump to conclusions that just because someone is an "x", you have "x"ed them out of your life.

This doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition - at least from your side of things. You don't have to either drop everything or do nothing. You can still be supportive in many ways - visits, help with logistics, talking and listening, providing advice, solace, food, etc. Use as a guideline what you would do for another good friend in this situation.

If he won't accept that compromise, he must not need your friendship and help that much. And that's his loss.


Shig




shigglyboom -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/7/2008 6:45:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: trueshadow

Wow! I've read every one of the posts here. What a hard-hearted group of people! I've taken care of my mother when she was very sick. I did the same for my father. I've dropped everything to sit by my ex-girlfriend's side while she was on a ventilator in the ICU.

I'm glad for everyone who posted here. I have a much greater insight into your hearts than I have had before.

It's enough to make me choose vanilla.

Maybe this is why kinky folks have never worked out for me....

But, as statistics have borne out time and time again, liberals are quite stingy with charity. Conservatives are much more generous. I don't know why that is, but I see a glimpse here....


Trueshadow,

You're jumping to faulty conclusions with insufficient information - as are many people here, but they're not insulting everyone else in the process.

You can't automatically equate the OP's relationship with her ex to yours with your ex, and you certainly can't equate it to your parents.

Posters here have been leaping to protect Clearlight from a possibly abusive situation. While that stems from a set of assumptions on their part, they are no grosser assumptions than yours: that everyone in this community is liberal, or that the 3 dozen posters on this thread represent the entire "community".

As for the "conservatives are more generous" argument - that's a piece of fluff based on far too little evidence to be so widely tauted these days by those who would like it to be true.

Shig






trueshadow -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/8/2008 3:59:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Maya2001


Hmmm your not the only other person in life to offer aid , and not everyone is worthy of receiving charity, and I consider myself liberal not conservative.    I also have volunteered in animal rescue doing the hands on stuff such as fostering, transporting, caring rehab, training , assessments, adoption of special needs hard to adopt animals  etc as well as financial aid in the form of monetary, gifts and doing fund raising auctions and sponsorship, walkathons  plus payroll deductions. 

But in doing charity work one has to use wisdom and learn how to make the best use of their time... it is easy to go overboard, burn yourself out, or not make good use of your charity such that you limit your or simply end up destroying yourself so that you end up hit a road block that ends you ability to continue offering aid.  I have seen people get way in over their heads rescuing animals to the point that the animals then need to be rescued from the rescuer becasue they became incapable of handling so many and could not finacially care for them so the entire group was put in jeopardy.  So when volunteering to help one also needs to know where to draw the line, as you are not going be of help longterm  if you ending up drowning yourself in the process.  So it does requiring using  some common sense to know how to deliver the help most effectively.  over the longterm without crippling yourself  in the process,  I also do some screening before making the decision to give for charity, not all aid giving is well used many including  animal rights groups line their pockets with the donations with little to no direct aid to the animals they claim they are wanting to help and some of the biggest groups are the worst, so I am very selective on who I am going to help inorder that my aid is not just going to be taken advantage of.  which is one of the points of OP has to has herself is the person asking for aid going to take advantage of.

The OP can still be of assistance if she chooses and if he will accept without having to making a total commitment to him in what she already knows would be unhealthy for her and would end up ruining her own long term goals, and how can it be good decision if in the end it ruins her future and possibly prevents her of being of aid to others or worse yet in the ending maybe put in a position where she will be the one requiring aid to extract her out of the situation.

Here is a good example of a situation I refused to provide aid, I sometimes offer help with funding for medical care for an injured animal through auctions,   the owner  lived right next to rural highway and had a young dog that was hit by a car and severly injured  needing several thousand for surgery ,,, the owner went as far as writing a newspaper editorial  fully blaming the driver for speeding.   Now my reason for refusing was that the owner accepted no blame of their own, even if the drivers had been going half the speed limit and a dog dashes out in front chances are it would get killed in this story the dog is damned lucky to be alive regardless of the speed of the driver even if tit had been hit at 15 mph the result could have been a dead dog, since the owner was not willing to accept responsibility that they could have prevented to accident by ensuring the dog was preventing being on the highway  meant they probably would continue to let the dog run at large even after a successful surgery so as good chance the dog will get killed or injured again  so by offering aid I am not helping that animal instead subjecting it to further owner irresponsibility  and likely future pain of been hit again , the dog at the time was under the care  of the vet so pain was managed, they were not poverty cases or living on a fixed goverment income and were living  better off financially then myself, just were not willing to make the sacrifices themselves which further irked me to no end....to me they were irresponsible jerks willing to take advantage of others, so to me not worthy of recieving charity and would not have brought me joy in helping only left me with the basd taste of being used.   .  Instead I ended up helping an adoption group that needed food desperately as they had been impacted by one of the Florida hurricanes so helped roughly  40 dogs eat for a month   and provided aid toward a dog that broke its leg.  Sometimes you have to make hard decisions and be willing to say no inorder to make the best use of yourself and accept not everyone is worthy of receiving charity,  and   from the situation the OP has described it sure as heck does not seem like the Dom in question is worthy of charity but is using the situation to take advantage of her especially when he has no confirmation yet that he does in fact have cancer nevermind whether it is life threatening  and having cancer does not have to mean death sentence or does it necessarily make you an invalid ... I am still here today 25 years afte my diagnosis with ovarian cancer doing well and successfully  without needing a caretaker... came home from surgery  and  cared for my then 3 year old  son on my own  and there is a whole lot more cancer support services around today than there was 25 years ago.    


Wow...I never said I was the only one who has ever helped another.  But I did (and do) question the total uniformity of rejection of this potential dying person.

As far as pacing oneself, well, I don't agree.  Death is a permanent event and I have gladly gone overboard to help others out.  No one here apparently would.  I will not bore you to go into details but suffice it to say I have moved in with loved ones to care for them.  I've done the same thing with animals that I love.  I have committed myself 100% to others. 

Few if any here would.  Sad.

Your dog story reinforces your curious lack of feeling.  Whoopee!  The dog could have been injured whether the driver was speeding or not!  You use this as an excuse to avoid helping.  Good for you!  Leaves no ambiguity as to who you are.

Just the general lack of ANY EMPATHY AT ALL here was breath-taking.  I've printed out this thread for constant referral if I ever am tempted to interact with any of you that I find to have little concern for others.  It speaks volumes.

But hey, it's what it is that you all do, isn't it?


















trueshadow -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/8/2008 4:07:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: shigglyboom

Trueshadow,


As for the "conservatives are more generous" argument - that's a piece of fluff based on far too little evidence to be so widely tauted these days by those who would like it to be true.

Shig



It's a fact conservatives are more generous.  Liberals don't give because charity is 'government work'.

"In 2000, households headed by a conservative gave, on average, 30 percent more money to charity than households headed by a liberal ($1,600 to $1,227). This discrepancy is not simply an artifact of income differences; on the contrary, liberal families earned an average of 6 percent more per year than conservative families, and conservative families gave more than liberal families within every income class, from poor to middle class to rich.
If we look at party affiliation instead of ideology, the story remains largely the same. For example, registered Republicans were seven points more likely to give at least once in 2002 than registered Democrats (90 to 83 percent).
The differences go beyond money and time. Take blood donations, for example. In 2002, conservative Americans were more likely to donate blood each year, and did so more often, than liberals. If liberals and moderates gave blood at the same rate as conservatives, the blood supply in the United States would jump by about 45 percent."

"Among the states in which 60 percent or more voted for Bush, the average portion of income donated to charity was 3.5 percent. For states giving Mr. Bush less than 40 percent of the vote, the average was 1.9 percent. The average amount given per household from the five states combined that gave Mr. Bush the highest vote percentages in 2003 was 25 percent more than that donated by the average household in the five northeastern states that gave Bush his lowest vote percentages; and the households in these liberal-leaning states earned, on average, 38 percent more than those in the five conservative states."

etc. etc. etc.

http://www.arthurbrooks.net/excerpt.html




DesFIP -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/8/2008 5:09:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: trueshadow

Some hard-hearted posts on this subject.  Isn't at least some sympathy for him possible?  If it is true that his cancer is back, is it incurable at that point?

I've been faced with serious health problems and if I received replies such as I've seen here, well, at least I know where I stood.

Let's put it in terms I can more readily identify with.  I've had three serious, long-term relationships (married or not).  I still care for each one of them.  After all, I was deeply in love with each of them, in their turn.

I would do what I could.  I wouldn't move back in with them, but if indeed they were facing death, I would want to provide reasonable support, and I'd hug them and tell them good-bye (at the least). 

The bottom line is, do you care for him more than you care for your job and new life? 


But he is demanding that she do what you've already said you wouldn't. He's demanding she quits her job and provide round the clock nursing. Not that he wants to make amends and have her come round and visit, so they can part friends.

If you wouldn't give up your job to take care of your ex then why are we being hard hearted for saying she shouldn't either?




Poetryinpain -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/8/2008 5:33:24 PM)

trueshadow, I'm sorry you have seen things in what you've read that perhaps weren't actually in the posts.

There were great numbers of posts that recommended the OP provide helpful information for the ex.

I doubt that any member of this thread is hard-hearted or does not help others who need it. I am disabled myself, but I do what I can to provide assistance for those who need it. I physically can't care for a sick person, but I will do any amount of research to find the best care at an affordable price.

The indignation expressed here has been directed toward the ex for assuming that the OP would just naturally give up her career to help him. I'm sorry, but that's an assumption that goes against the grain for many people who believe that a person's life is theirs to control and command until they have given that control over to another - and that when they have been released (the controller becomes the ex), the control reverts. Thus the ex has no right to order her to return to him. That (the ordering) is what detracts from the sympathy I have for him.

I believe he is a pathetic human being. I have this picture in my head of Ebenezer Scrooge before the spirits, dying among his moth-eaten bedclothes, alone and friendless. It's a sad picture, and my heart goes out to this sad man. But I wouldn't give up a new job to go help him. I have a life, and I have no obligation to give up that life for someone who has indicated that he has no emotional feelings for me.

BTW, you appear to equate BDSM with liberal. I happen to know there are a goodly number of conservatives on this site - I wouldn't be surprised if a sizable percentage of those posting in this thread were conservatives.

pip, not going to beat myself up for being practical as well as charitable




Wildfleurs -> RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... (4/8/2008 5:37:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: clearlightblack

He calls to say his cancer might be back and he needs you......
 
You've just taken the greatest job of your career.......
 
That little person inside you is torn.....because you know that the person inside you knows at his command you will jump and do as he commands.....
 
He has already told you there will be no argument about you coming back......
 
I haven't been able to find my voice.....
 
This job will make or break my career.......but he still owns my submission.....
 
What would you do?


I would wish him well, visit him in the hospital if in fact the cancer has returned. And then I'd take the new job and remind myself EVERY DAY why he is an ex to make sure I didn't fuck up the new job.

C~




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