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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 7:55:31 AM   
JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Over the years I’ve had my share of hate mail from not only this life style but from the pagan one too. I learned something years ago that works for me:

No one can hurt you unless you give him or her permission to.

I.e. if you chose to disregard such mail, the senders are just whistling in the dark. Most are bitter little people who resent others for getting on, being successful or just being popular. Keep you chin up lass, you’ll find more friends here that wankers.



My approach is almost identical to yours (no big surprise there [laugh]).

An insult is like a drink. It cannot affect you unless you accept it.

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 7:59:03 AM   
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Werry true, thouhg even if good advice it is often hard to follow.

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 8:21:45 AM   
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Age has nothing to do with your ability to be a lsave. Slave is who and what you are on the inside. Slave is your willingness to serve, not a number. So long as you are willing and able to submit, serve & be of use...you are able to call yourself a slave. (though admitedly as we get older, we have to change HOW we serve sometimes, but it doesnt detract from the beauty of the actual submission.)

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 9:20:59 AM   
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Too old, I plan on using my flogger well into me 90's...me heart...me heart!!!!

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 9:41:36 AM   
nephandi


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i plan on living forever, and get flogget all the way

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 9:49:04 AM   
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Kasiani, I am so sorry you were insulted. You are not too old for anything you want to do, and I am amazed that anyone would think you were.

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 10:05:24 AM   
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Karin,
I won't speak to the "gorean" aspect of your post because I don't know if age enters into their structured scenario. Anyone who considers age, weight, height, hair (lack of or color) over mental or emotional compatibility is setting themselves up for disappointment. No one has gotten off the planet without changing, whether it be from aging or other outside life experiences. If you are seeking a long term relationship you should thank the "oaf" for disqualifying himself and not wasting your time.

From personal experience, every day as I grow old with my slave she is more beautiful, more "perfect". Neither of us is as young as when we met. Looking at pictures from just a few years back I know we both look different. But as each day passed our relationship deepened, our trust deepens, her submission and my dominance deepens. I look forward to being in our 60's together. All of the time and experiences we will have shared by then will have us at a level of Master/slave that we can now only wish. Of course she'll still at the end of my leash as attend the Folsom Street fair even if one of us is walking with aid of a walker.

Draw upon the strength of your memory of your past Master. Remember how, only two years ago, how you felt when you looked into his eyes. Don't give up. Don't be discouraged. Don't compromise. Seek someone who brings back that same feeling. That person is out there. That person will see you, not your age.

Good luck - Be WELL!

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 10:11:00 AM   
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Hi Kasiani. I agree with everyone else, that you should ignor the ICEHOLE. I just turned another year older (24 Sep), but I don't feel it, and I DON'T CARE...what others think of me. In fact, I wear some things, besides Mary Janes at and after work, just to give "THEM" something to TALK ABOUT ! I love rubbing their noses in it, and this guy needs his nose rubbed in something too...but where can you find a nice big pile of ELEPHANT DUNG ? I know, at Sadam's Elephant Dung Emporium and Botique. I think it located in California...probably in LA.

Take care and ALWAYS HAVE FUN, no matter what you want to do, BalletBob

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 11:14:17 AM   
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This lifestyle, and any lifestyle will be a lot easier if you 1st know who you are. If you know that you are a sub then noone can take that away from you. Someone can choose not to be your master, they can choose not to talk to you but they can't take away who you are. Really figure out who you are in live and it will solve a lot of problems like this

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 11:22:54 AM   
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You should know there are jerks and wannabees everywhere..

do not worry about them.. you will the one you seek soon i am sure

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 12:43:45 PM   
Kasia


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I wish people would stop that sh** about how "age doesnt matter".
Of course age matters!

First of all, I am smarter, more sure of myself and more competent than I was 20 years ago.
I can look down at those "bright young people" with forgiving smile and say "what do you know *sigh*"....... something that irritated me most of anything when I was 20.

Then, I have my back pains, I earned those with years.
I dont wear too short skirts anymore - I am confident enough to know my legs dont look that good anymore.
I am proud of my boobs, I dont tend to hide them anymore like I used to when I was 20 - in my age I know men love D cups.

What I enjoy mostly is the fact that I can talk to my daughters intelligible about almost any subject possible - and I dont have to watch over them constantly anymore.

I can imagine almost anything in sex, and actually realize each and every of my fantasies without thinking "what will he think of me if I tell him" - something quite unthinkable for me when I was 20.
I feel much more sexy in general.

In fact, I love my age and I would never want to be 20 again.
So dont tell me its all the same and age doesnt matter.

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 1:08:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kasia
I can look down at those "bright young people" with forgiving smile and say "what do you know *sigh*"....... something that irritated me most of anything when I was 20.

So you obviously haven't learned THAT lesson yet.

Of course age matters. Everything matters.

The question is- matters to what extent? Matters in what context?

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 1:30:37 PM   
Kasia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2


So you obviously haven't learned THAT lesson yet.

Of course age matters. Everything matters.

The question is- matters to what extent? Matters in what context?

I was just kidding my dear, of course I dont do to others something I havent liked myself. I have two grown daughters and I get along with them and their friends really fine.

In what context age matters? Let me be a bit rude and say that my opinion is that age should matter in context that person of OPs age should have much more confidence than to be so much offended by someones rudeness to write two such threads as she did.
I would say that age should teach us there are all kind of people and how to deal with them.
Of course, if the age issue is not so painful to us intimatelly to overreact at somebody else mentioning it.

Just my opinion and not intending to offend anyone.

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 6:20:21 PM   
Hallittlelolita


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i agree age is just a number, dont worry about what other people think or say. If you are happy that is all that should matter. Just take what that fool said with a grain of salt and pay no attention to Him. you said that this so called Master is Gorean well it seems to me He is a fake because a real Master wouldnt hurt your feelings or tear you down. Just be happy that is all that should matter everyone deserves to be happy no matter what age you are. So smile

Sincerely andie and her Master Hal

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 6:29:27 PM   
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Since many women do not come into the lifestyle until they are older in years after years of not understanding why they feel as they do it would be a shame to think the number of years they would be eligible to serve would be limited.

i am 50 years old as of last week and feel that i am only now coming to fully understand myself and the lifestyle. i am anxious to serve again after having been released 4 months ago, and i must say i have not been discouraged due to age and have had a lot of communication via collarme and other venues. The person who spoke with you seems narow minded and hung-up on himself and i wonder when he is 60 something if he will be excluded from Gor or all vanilla points of life because he is too old to Master?

flirt aka enigma

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 7:08:36 PM   
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i would just like to state that i am so very impressed by the people on this site. The majority of you people are so willing to help and give great advice. Its funny to me how often you guys agree with eachother regarding the issue of "Common Sense". i have been reading these posts for about two weeks and have learned so much and even though i don't (or haven't posted regularly), i have learned an incredible amount of information here. Thank you (would be presumptious) to say from everyone, but defin from this Sub!

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 9:31:24 PM   
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Age always matters. It matters to Karin, who admits not wanting a boy young enough to be her grandson for a partner. I'm sure it matters to many of the younger women here who don't want men they need to keep the nitro glycerin close by for. It matters to employers when looking to hire someone. It just matters differently on an individual basis. Anyone who believes it matters not at all is not facing reality.

Karin,

There are jerks of every age, and he was too young to suit your needs anyway (based on your profile). Have patience, and you will find another to make you happy.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

From personal experience, every day as I grow old with my slave she is more beautiful, more "perfect". Neither of us is as young as when we met. Looking at pictures from just a few years back I know we both look different. But as each day passed our relationship deepened, our trust deepens, her submission and my dominance deepens. I look forward to being in our 60's together. All of the time and experiences we will have shared by then will have us at a level of Master/slave that we can now only wish. Of course she'll still at the end of my leash as attend the Folsom Street fair even if one of us is walking with aid of a walker.



As for you two......It never ceases to amaze me how your love for each other shines through so clearly when you write anything about each other. I have said it many times, we all should be so lucky. As for the mental picture you gave me....Merc, I keep picturing you with the walker, while beth is still very young and spry. Shaking your cane at her as she playfully goes out of reach and you both laugh hysterically.

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/4/2005 11:58:29 PM   
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Of course age matters, and of course things change as we grow older. If you know who you are then age doesn't change that. We can be talking about the bdsm world or anything for that matter. Just because you are of a certain age doesn't have to change who you are inside.

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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/5/2005 2:00:08 AM   
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I’m going against the popular opinion here by stating emphatically, AGE DOES NOT MATTER, maturity, a level head and a positive approach to life is what matters (A reasonable SoH it handy too). It is laughable for the 25+’s to say Age Does matter when such things requires the wisdom of those who are past their middle days. I echo the Actor Tommy Lee Jones when asked about his aging, he commented: “What I regret the most if that I’ll never be able to play with the Dallas Cowboys in a Superbowl.” As we age we gain valuable insights on life and living which the young don’t have. We also learn that as our body ages, there are some things we just cant do or cant do as easily, so we get smart and look at other ways and means. I played my last game of competition gridiron at the age of 47 against players in their early twenties. I just adapted and when I had to run it was an Aussie version of the “Fridge” trundling along making or closing gaps and still sacking Q/backs and often enough hitting them hard enough for them to spend a few hours in hospital. AGE ONLY MATTERS AS MUCH AS YOU ALLOW IT TO. (For those who are interested in such things, I still shoot with both revolver and semi auto pistol left hand, right hand, sitting, standing, kneeling at 30yards and score 98% accuracy . My snap shots on a combat range simulating hostage release are to double tap left eye/right eye. But that comes from hours of practice over a lifetime and often daily practice.

< Message edited by IronBear -- 10/5/2005 2:02:43 AM >


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RE: To old to be a slave - 10/5/2005 3:11:23 AM   
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It says much about the character of someone who sends out insults to those he doesn’t know. This doesn’t imply if he knew you that he would have a reason to insult you either. I, also, think it must have bothered you greatly to post here about it. It, truly, should have been laughed off. I’ve made jokes when someone has said I was too old because it really didn’t bother me. I’m 50 and try to keep myself in good shape. My slave happens to be younger, but it is not because I discount those older. You can look good at any age. Smile and look at yourself as a mature, beautiful woman.

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