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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/3/2008 8:33:15 PM   
azropedntied


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dea , Again start slow but not too slow , if this is your first time i would NOT suggest a 4 hour  exchange .
Think of yourself as a new car, you have to have that break in time VS taking the new car off the lot and thrashing it and then expect to get  many years of trouble free service from it ,or yourself .15-30 mins is too little  and hour is a great first start , 4+ hours not a wise choice ,Unless that 4 hours is time spent in speaking with  your potential partner and warm up slowly and aftercare .

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/3/2008 11:53:18 PM   
dea2008


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Thanks.
Good to know.
I do not have a friends whom I can deliver such a private information of my life.
There fore , I can not let them to know the address of the dungeon.
The solution also is , to stay in the Backpackers Guest House in the sharing room with other backpackers , to get to know some backpacker  and to tell him where I am going  by calling him , and letting him to call me  in few hours.

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 12:54:56 AM   
azropedntied


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maybe i have seen too many horror movies like touristas and hostel-1 and 2 to entrust my well being to a random freshly met backpacker .What price to you put upon your well being and personal safety for the sake of a dungeon  visit ?
Do your research , enjoy but also be safe .Know what your getting into before getting into it . tough to say no thanks to a stranger when your bound and gagged and she is deciding if she shall honor your  health ,well being , and safety.
best wishes 

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 1:31:46 AM   
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To the OP,just make sure if you are paying for the session,that if you book four hours that the Domina actually stays four hours.I can't speak for all Pros but the one i encountered wanted to leave after three hours and twenty minutes.All i said was you don't have to touch me if you don't want to but sit your ass back down.I paid for four hours and i want four hours...not three plus hours and a 40 minute drive time to the next poor hard up slob that needed attention.So caveat emptor my friend..that means buyer beware.

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 7:34:35 AM   
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Where are you going for this pro session dea? If you're in Holland you're welcome to call Me, to tell Me about it.

I hope you'll understand this is way different when you find a Mistress who cares about you, and build something up with you, then a Pro, who is really interested in ya wallet.

I hope you're safe!

stay in touch.

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 7:55:51 AM   
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dea: firstly like others have said, you better ask all the questions you're asking here to the Mistress you're going to meet.

second, you're going to the Netherlands to meet a Mistress but you are from Estonia? I'm from the Netherlands myself so i was going to offer you the same thing as Goddess Teaze so kindly did. I know Goddess Teaze and she is a very trustable person (*saying hello to GT*). Good luck and have fun.

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 12:09:22 PM   
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Dear Politesub53,

I have had 8 to 18 hour sessions, with 'nature calls' breaks and or taking a moment to drink and snack and or meal.

Sometimes it will require the victim to take a rest also.  It is good to get the body moving in between long sets of bondage.  In the old days, when we used cast materials to 'long term bondage,' it was something that was worked up to.  It is no fun to finally get the cast material set and while it's setting/curing--suddenly someone goes Yellow or Red and have to 'medically saw' the cast off.  (It is a mess also).  Of course, if in an Iron Maiden--one doesn't have to wait for cast materials to set --just watch the iron rust. [Grins]  Now days, there are so many different options to long term bondage.

Sometimes, the scene is cut short when the victim is all out in space and the body is limp as the mind is going laps around Venus, Mars, Pluto, etc.  Then it is just maintaining the victim's flight in sub-space/flying.  Then, slow decent out of sub-space/flying.

Mind-game scenes are the most fun.  Time takes a seat and the victim may think they have been under the 'spell' or in a 'scene/session' for 1 or 2 hours and then they have to double take a few times at their clock, watch--cell phone and see that it was six hours or more.

Creativity can really have freedom when there is time to devote to sessions back to back.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 12:25:28 PM   
Luciferica


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It seems kinda shady all in all...be safe...

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 12:40:10 PM   
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dea, you *do* know that you can have just the occasional session or a D/s relationship with a non-pro domme and still live your life completely normally... going to work, seeing friends, etc, right?

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 12:49:14 PM   
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LadyHugs, thank You for the very informative reply, i was indeed wondering as to what happens if either party feels tired ect. As well as how long it is physically possible to carry on a scene, for both sides. 18 hours does seem like a long time to swing a cane :)

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/4/2008 12:56:16 PM   
Luciferica


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

dea, you *do* know that you can have just the occasional session or a D/s relationship with a non-pro domme and still live your life completely normally... going to work, seeing friends, etc, right?

I wondered this myself, it seems like Dea thinks the D/s lifestyle is all consuming, I have a 24/7 relationship and we still have lives, friends,ect. You don't have to pay some strange pro-domme to get what you need al the time

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RE: what can 4 hours session include ? - 4/6/2008 1:50:35 AM   
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Yes I was going to say the same. Living this 24/7 doesn't mean being locked in a cage in the basement for 20 hours and brought out to play for the other 4! Well, at least it doesn't for MOST! I am sure there are some very few who live that way. It's possible to have a balanced lifestyle.

That said, the pro-Domme isn't necessarily all bad for an initial "taster", but hopefully She is well established and reputable. She may be able to give you some references. And the Dungeon is generally safer than a hotel room ... for several reasons.
* Any equipment attached to the wall etc should be safely attached ... unlike jury-rigging some bondage device using hotel furniture!
* She will have all Her toys ... plus first aid and safety equipment ... on hand in Her Dungeon and will be able to access what She needs immediately instead of searching in Her toy bag saying "I'm sure I put the handcuff keys in somewhere!"
* presumably it will be sound-proofed ... you really don't want the hotel staff bursting in fearing someone is being assaulted ... or worse, the police!

I have never pro-Dommed as in for money, but I have done "first sessions" for newbies. I insist they should have at least 2 hours available AND not be needing to rush off to anywhere important such as work thereafter. That's because I take at least 15 mins to show them around the play area/Dungeon and appropriate parts of the house (eg toilet, bathroom, maybe kitchen if they might need to fetch a drink) and to talk and get them relaxed a bit. W/we've usually done some negotiations online or on phone previously, but I review those and make sure W/we are in agreement. Then I get them to strip and I spend time inspecting them and taking a medical history ... fun initial play and very important that I know what illnesses/injuries they have or have had, medications etc. I usually touch each part as W/we discuss it to get them used to My touch. So at least 30-40 mins have passed before I move on to the first main play. If I am going to do any impact play (spank, flog), I move on to it next so I can watch the response of the skin over the rest of the session. Everyone's skin responds differently, some go red quickly and fade just as fast, some redden and are slow to fade, some are slow to go red etc. Depending a bit on how long that goes and the responses of the sub, I might move to a second activity, I might not. I tend not to do full restraint bondage on the first session, so they know they can get away if they need to, but I might do a rope harness. With at LEAST half hour to go, I bring the play to an end and move to aftercare, bringing the sub back to earth. I insist they have a bite to eat, water or a soft drink and are talking lucidly before I allow them to leave. If more time is available, I may have them do a simple chore for Me to reinforce that submission doesn't end with play! Especially if they have been allowed to cum, even though that flips some boys' sub switch OFF I try to reinforce that it shouldn't if they aspire to being more than an occasional sub.

OK to clarify ... that's NOT trying to say what the Domme you are going to see SHOULD do ... it's just telling you what I choose to do and why. And I have included that here so it might guide some of the questions you should want answered during the initial negotiations. And if you go ahead with the proDomme, DO take advantage of the offers of either GoddessTeaze or slaafje to make a safe call to. If you're not sure what that means, search for threads about safe calls or ask them!

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RE: What can 4 hours session include? - 4/6/2008 6:37:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dea2008

What does the session usually include during the time of 4-6 hours ?



Whatever she wants. Four to six hours isn't long when you consider all the possible domestic labor that can be covered in that time—never mind creative abuse. It never hurts to respectfully ask what you will be used for. It is important for you—and for her—to be on the same page philosophically speaking, of course...even if it means understanding your preferences are irrelevant.




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