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BOUNTYHUNTER -> Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 7:29:31 AM)
I am sure you all know that the "goverment' is phasing out regular lightbulbs for the low energy cfl lightbulbs ohhhhh but wait a minute they forgot to tell us heavens forbid we should ever drop and break one...Its a 11 step process clean up ,its seems there is mercury and toxic waste involved call old Hazmat out to clean up your house and OH yeah we shall sent you a bill...Not to mention all the land fills poluted with toxic waste..BOY OH I can't wait to see the next generation of birth defects caused by this shit.....Now mercury is NASTY SHIT I WAS EXPOSED DURING AN INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENT...WAKE UP CALL YOUR SENATORS,,YOUR VOICE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE ESPECIALLY DURING THE ELECTION CYCLE... Great idea conserving engery But there is just this one little thing WE forgot to tell you....ooops sorry!!

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 7:31:47 AM)
One more little thing,your cock may fall off but hey we are conserving energy.......

LadyEllen -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 7:37:05 AM)
Its reminiscent of the push towards bio-fuels. Seemed like a great idea - except now there is no much land given over to growing bio-fuels that there isnt enough food to go round and prices are shooting up, affecting the poorest most of all. What I cant for the life of me fathom though, is how no one thinks these things through - they seem to spend a lot of time and energy on thinking of ways to solve one problem, without considering what other problem might thereby be occasioned. These arent stupid people, which is why I find it so surprising. Cynics might conclude that they dont mention problematic effects for some other reason. E

Gemini1766 -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 7:38:32 AM)
The way to go is to push LED lighting. It exists already. It's able to be adjusted to different levels using a dial type switch, more expensive to start, but much cheaper in the long run as they will light up for years, continuously not just x number of hours (5000 I think is what a florecent is) at pennies on the dollar compared to even florecents. They can even be imbedded in your walls, taking away the need for lamps and such.

Marc2b -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 7:42:11 AM)
Flush!... Flush!... Flush!... I’m sorry? What did you say? I couldn’t hear you because I just got done taking a shit and have to flush my low flow, water conserving, toilet nineteen times in a row. Flush!...

thompsonx -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 8:10:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marc2b Flush!... Flush!... Flush!... I’m sorry? What did you say? I couldn’t hear you because I just got done taking a shit and have to flush my low flow, water conserving, toilet nineteen times in a row. Flush!... Marc2b: Perhaps you should get a composting toilet...they use no water at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet thompson

kittinSol -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 8:15:42 AM)
Don't eat so much [&:] ?

Mercnbeth -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 8:26:25 AM)
But it had "good intent"! And I'm sure the messiah, Al Gore, and his apostles made plenty of money once they conned and/or paid for the votes to pass the law in congress. Results are only important to those evil people who focus on reality and the big picture. "Sorry but we had good intent!"; is the product of a generation who got trophies for finishing last and finds it impossible to consider that they are just plain wrong.

Gemini1766 -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 8:36:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marc2b Flush!... Flush!... Flush!... I’m sorry? What did you say? I couldn’t hear you because I just got done taking a shit and have to flush my low flow, water conserving, toilet nineteen times in a row. Flush!... Get a better toilet. The one we have is highly rated and well worth the money, low flow high power flushes, it's great.

Aileen1968 -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 9:36:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marc2b Flush!... Flush!... Flush!... I’m sorry? What did you say? I couldn’t hear you because I just got done taking a shit and have to flush my low flow, water conserving, toilet nineteen times in a row. Flush!... You need a Champion my man! Impossible to clog and empties on the first flush.

Moloch -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 9:38:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Its reminiscent of the push towards bio-fuels. Seemed like a great idea - except now there is no much land given over to growing bio-fuels that there isnt enough food to go round and prices are shooting up, affecting the poorest most of all. What I cant for the life of me fathom though, is how no one thinks these things through - they seem to spend a lot of time and energy on thinking of ways to solve one problem, without considering what other problem might thereby be occasioned. These arent stupid people, which is why I find it so surprising. Cynics might conclude that they dont mention problematic effects for some other reason. E If you grow corn its stupid. There are types of sugar plants and beans that are MUCH better match for bio-fule and produce more fuel.

LadyEllen -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 9:57:38 AM)
I'm not convinced Moloch I'm sorry. We need food and we cant eat anything else, whilst we could power our vehicles and homes with something other than oil products. E

Pyrrsefanie -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 11:43:39 AM)
Debunked by Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp

Real0ne -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 12:08:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 quote: ORIGINAL: Marc2b Flush!... Flush!... Flush!... I’m sorry? What did you say? I couldn’t hear you because I just got done taking a shit and have to flush my low flow, water conserving, toilet nineteen times in a row. Flush!... You need a Champion my man! Impossible to clog and empties on the first flush. Now I think al bundy would disagree and recommend a fraiser for a mans load!!!!

Gemini1766 -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 12:10:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moloch quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Its reminiscent of the push towards bio-fuels. Seemed like a great idea - except now there is no much land given over to growing bio-fuels that there isnt enough food to go round and prices are shooting up, affecting the poorest most of all. What I cant for the life of me fathom though, is how no one thinks these things through - they seem to spend a lot of time and energy on thinking of ways to solve one problem, without considering what other problem might thereby be occasioned. These arent stupid people, which is why I find it so surprising. Cynics might conclude that they dont mention problematic effects for some other reason. E If you grow corn its stupid. There are types of sugar plants and beans that are MUCH better match for bio-fule and produce more fuel. Switch grass is the best and least expensive of them to grow and use for bio fuel and does not cause a rise in the price of food crops. 100 100square mile solar energy farms across the country are the best idea of all. All the energy needs for our homes, and electric vehicles as well. Save fossil fuel for transportation and air services, and the military too. Fact is, the US could be energy self sufficient as fast as it could put up such energy farms. The biggest hold back... cost. But even that is sillly. Why? Because the initial cost, while high, is paid for by the low upkeep due to the high reduction of moving parts and long life of the systems. Not to mention that the power distribution grid already exists and covers most all of the country.

Marc2b -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 12:44:10 PM)
Thompsonx said: quote: Perhaps you should get a composting toilet...they use no water at all. Shit is supposed to be flushed away – not turned into zucchini. kittonsol said: quote: Don't eat so much My turds are as God made them. To everyone else – thanks for the recommendations but I live in New York State and doing things that make sense is illegal here.

thompsonx -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 12:56:54 PM)
quote: Shit is supposed to be flushed away – not turned into zucchini. Marc2b: The nitro-humis you buy from the garden supply center comes directly from the shit factory that your turds go to. A composting toilet cuts out three levels of marketing...you save. thompson

Sanity -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 12:58:40 PM)
Not really. Did you read that Snopes article regarding all the steps you're supposed to take if a cfl bulb breaks? And who is going to do all of that. Bottom line is that after years of using cfl bulbs, mercury contamination will be a fact of life everywhere you go. And mercury is nasty. As for using cropland to grow fuel, it doesn't matter what crop is used, the poorest among us are going to be starved. Riots are underway as we type these posts, though they get no front page press. It's there for the Googling though, if anyone cares to learn about it. quote: ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie Debunked by Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp

thompsonx -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 1:12:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Not really. Did you read that Snopes article regarding all the steps you're supposed to take if a cfl bulb breaks? Yes,pretty much like cleaning up a regular broken light bulb except the disposal. And who is going to do all of that. Everyone except the ignorant,lazy and stupid. Bottom line is that after years of using cfl bulbs, mercury contamination will be a fact of life everywhere you go. And mercury is nasty. Yup...even the CDC recommends that we limit our intake of fish which has been ubiquitously contaminated with it. As for using cropland to grow fuel, it doesn't matter what crop is used, the poorest among us are going to be starved. Riots are underway as we type these posts, though they get no front page press. It's there for the Goggling though, if anyone cares to learn about it. Who are you going to blame for that? quote: ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie Debunked by Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp

ArizonaSunSwitch -> RE: Another big brother fuck up... (4/3/2008 1:29:22 PM)
quote: Switch grass is the best and least expensive of them to grow and use for bio fuel and does not cause a rise in the price of food crops. 100 100square mile solar energy farms across the country are the best idea of all. All the energy needs for our homes, and electric vehicles as well. Save fossil fuel for transportation and air services, and the military too. Fact is, the US could be energy self sufficient as fast as it could put up such energy farms. The biggest hold back... cost. But even that is sillly. Why? Because the initial cost, while high, is paid for by the low upkeep due to the high reduction of moving parts and long life of the systems. Not to mention that the power distribution grid already exists and covers most all of the country. Gee, i wonder why we don't use switch grass then ? Maybe it's because no one knows how to process it at volume for any kind of reasonable cost. You know, it's a technicality, it doesn't exist. The same as anthropogenic global warming.

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