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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 10:20:34 AM   
MsSonnetMarwood


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Whew! Sorry I mentioned the list!

I'm not here to say it's the greatest thing ever, just that it's worked so far, without utterly imploding. (miraculous? perhaps.) I only mentioned it to offer what a group of women WHO KNOW EACH OTHER are doing to apprise each other of what the online men are doing.


Actually, I think it's good to network with local dommes for informational purposes. Prior to moving to MD, I had a couple such domme friends that I'd swap information with about locals who contacted us.

The key to get a group like this to work - KNOW all of the Dommes involved, i.e. these people are your friends that you go out with, get together for lunch with, call when you're blue, etc. At that point, it's natural to discuss who we're seeing, who we've been talking to.

Why is it important? Because a significant amount of those-who-would-be-subs DO lie, they DO stand us up, they DO do dumb assinine things that put them in the category of "don't bother with them". You have to use judgement for yourself what to do with the information you get. For example, one sub I was speaking to assured me he was single; I asked around and found out that he'd been telling someone else he was (unhappily) married. I confronted him and he admitted he'd lied to me about being single. Finding that out early on saved hassle on my part.

Being able to ask around is the same principle as having references.

Mind you, I think having a "universal" list of who is a phoney and who is not is a BAD idea. You have to personally know and trust your source of information.

< Message edited by MsSonnetMarwood -- 10/8/2005 10:24:12 AM >

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 1:00:44 PM   
FTopinMichigan


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ORIGINAL: ownedjulia

That sounds like a scary site? What if someone wants to be vindictive? Any check on the people that write to the site?



It's not a scary site, really. The information, provided in most cases, is general about SN in contact (those with MANY names, or multiple accounts), and finding out such things as the "single" man is in fact married, or such "facts" as he was a no-show three times. These are just examples. A few times, in the beginning, a few seemed to take things a bit personal, or too far, and concerns were addressed. The list is about facts...just the facts!

If someone posts how disappointed they were in someone, it's only THIER "opinion" and usually stated as such. You have to take it with a grain of salt anyway.

Some women may get personal or rant, but for the most part, it's a beneficial listing, and the information can be taken as you want.

I always form my own opinion on people anyway, but I find the list helpful, for the types that are truly unsafe, or untrustworthy. Those things are done by their own actions, and not by the people talking about it.

I request those men that contact me to be single (unmarried, not otherwise attached), and this list has helped to confirm the marital status of a few. It has confirmed some were in fact single, and others that were married. If they lie about being married, they can't be trusted about anything. One lie is enuff!

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 3:28:55 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Laughing...if you're going to make judgments like that on the basis of an internet list, good luck. Sure there are liars. Liars suck. But you're kidding yourself if you think you can expose liars by comparing their answers to a list somewhere on the internet. Maybe there are some liars contributing to the list? Ever thought of that one?

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ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan

I request those men that contact me to be single (unmarried, not otherwise attached), and this list has helped to confirm the marital status of a few. It has confirmed some were in fact single, and others that were married. If they lie about being married, they can't be trusted about anything. One lie is enuff!


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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 5:41:22 PM   
HYPNOTIC1948


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Status: offline 		I don't really give a rat's ass about phoneys or wannabee's on here but I do care about the sick man that sent me a message that he wants someone to "kill him" I blocked him now so that I will not hear from him again! Sickies are worse than wannabee's or phoneys!

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 8:05:26 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

But you're kidding yourself if you think you can expose liars by comparing their answers to a list somewhere on the internet.
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No one is trying to "expose" anyone. The information doesn't go past the circle of dommes on the list. Could someone be lying? Yeah, sure. Where the gain would be in lying about whether a person who is only identified by his screen name is reliable about showing up for appointments would be, I am not sure.

Women network, be it face to face, or on the net. Our list is just one way we do it. Those of you who have mentioned blackmail, etc---get a grip! Blackmail is FELONY.

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 9:09:37 PM   
UtopianRanger


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What a blunder on your part! You're not supposed to disclose that type of information to the enemy. HAR!


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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 9:22:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Laughing...if you're going to make judgments like that on the basis of an internet list, good luck. Sure there are liars. Liars suck. But you're kidding yourself if you think you can expose liars by comparing their answers to a list somewhere on the internet. Maybe there are some liars contributing to the list? Ever thought of that one?


not trying to be rude but there are a few things that I do like about you and then there are a few I dont,,,I think Leonidas my have hit the nail on the head though about stirring the pot so to speak........this is stirring the pot and not helping to solve the problem,,,there is a difference in doing something assertive and doing something to stir the pot.........

Master six

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 9:22:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Laughing...if you're going to make judgments like that on the basis of an internet list, good luck. Sure there are liars. Liars suck. But you're kidding yourself if you think you can expose liars by comparing their answers to a list somewhere on the internet. Maybe there are some liars contributing to the list? Ever thought of that one?



HERE HERE!!!!! HAZZAH Lordandmaster!! :D

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 9:41:18 PM   
UtopianRanger


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not trying to be rude but there are a few things that I do like about you and then there are a few I dont,,,I think Leonidas my have hit the nail on the head though about stirring the pot so to speak........this is stirring the pot and not helping to solve the problem,,,there is a difference in doing something assertive and doing something to stir the pot.........

Master six


I'm curious. Why do you define an alternative view-point as stirring the pot?


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< Message edited by UtopianRanger -- 10/9/2005 2:19:57 PM >

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 10:33:09 PM   
Lordandmaster


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ORIGINAL: SirSix72

not trying to be rude but there are a few things that I do like about you and then there are a few I dont


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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 10:37:08 PM   
SirSix72


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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger



I'm curious. Why do define an alternative view-point as stirring the pot?


- The Ranger

ok here ya go look to the left hand bottom corner of this reply ,,see the red hand that says *BLOCK*

this is an assertive to move on and keep looking for what you want to play with or own,,why let drama drown out what you are searching for and whining about it gets you know where

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 10:41:29 PM   
SirSix72


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Status: offline 		well yeah I think alot of things you have to say are good but sometimes all of us tend to want to stir the pot a little........drama can be entertaining but stupid at other times

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 10:42:38 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Talk about drama. If it was THAT important to tell me that you like me but don't like me, you could have done it in a private e-mail--instead of doing exactly what you criticize others for doing.

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 10:44:04 PM   
FTopinMichigan


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Laughing...if you're going to make judgments like that on the basis of an internet list, good luck. Sure there are liars. Liars suck. But you're kidding yourself if you think you can expose liars by comparing their answers to a list somewhere on the internet. Maybe there are some liars contributing to the list? Ever thought of that one?



I'm not a shallow, unintelligent person, or an onliner, just FYI. And as I clearly pointed out, in my own post...I always form my own opinion on people.

The women on the list...at least the ones I read, are women that I either have known for many years, or have been acquainted with over my active time in the community (not "online"). Many of them have strong reputations and are in good standing in our local community. Some of them, I call my friends. Some have become friends, after getting acquainted from being on the same list.

This list isn't for gossip or trashing others, as implied in a few posts, but for sharing information for safety purposes.

Are there women making things up on the list? I'm sure some that could be saying things that might benefit them, or from their own perspective, which may be quite skewed, based on their personal interaction that didn't go well, but an intelligent woman can still benefit from the list, based on this particular one, and how it is managed.

Your view of it is negative and that it won't work, and I can appreciate that it wouldn't serve you. Glad you got a laugh out of it, but it's not a humorous or slanderous cackle of women just gossiping. It serves a purpose.

I tend to see those that oppose it, are more than likely the ones that fear their antics to be exposed. They fear they can't keep their stories straight if telling it to more than one woman. And as said earlier, by someone, if you think women don't share this information, even without a formal list, then I'd be laffin'. And if you don't think MEN share this type of information, I'd be laffin' even harder.

The other thing is that it appears some people have interpreted this "list" to be a negative. It also has posts that are very positive, and reflective of the many good experiences that folks have with one another too. [Just an example: "So-in-so is respectful, honorable and <insert good quality here>, but he's not compatible to my desires/needs. I would recommend him as a potential submissive for those sharing his interests." ]

"It's a good thing," as Martha said, and I agree.

K

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 10:59:44 PM   
UtopianRanger


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ORIGINAL: SirSix72

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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger



I'm curious. Why do define an alternative view-point as stirring the pot?


- The Ranger

ok here ya go look to the left hand bottom corner of this reply ,,see the red hand that says *BLOCK*

this is an assertive to move on and keep looking for what you want to play with or own,,why let drama drown out what you are searching for and whining about it gets you know where

Master Six



I see where you're going. But again, initially, why not follow your own advice?


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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/8/2005 11:04:37 PM   
SirSix72


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Status: offline 		sheesh fella,,,are you driven by drama or something you asked a question and I answered and you asked another question again,,,,or is this some kind of pissing contest you want to enter into, like I said the Iggy button,,,ahhh what a relief

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/9/2005 4:08:03 AM   
ExistentialSteel


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Status: offline 		A blacklist generated by online posters is flat out ridiculous. This list would grow into a pyramid scheme-like macrolist that would include those who had ever said something someone else didn't agree with.

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/9/2005 9:53:44 AM   
SirSix72


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Status: offline 		I couldnt agree with you more :)

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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/9/2005 10:05:07 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

A lady I know started a yahoo group called "submissive check" where we can share REALTIME information on the men who contact us. (For some reason, many lying wankers never seem to realize that WOMEN NETWORK). It's been really helpful for us in spreading information on who got abusive after the second date, or who is married, etc. We're not slamming, just sharing actual events.

So much of what we like is relative.......I have friends who will *never* compete with me for the same men, since our ideas of a dream date are so dissimilar. I do wish there was some way we could flag the genuinely dangerous, like my ex----mental illness, weapons charges, threatening phone calls, stalking........ But what can be done?




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RE: Phoneys and wannabes - 10/9/2005 12:44:59 PM   
CaptCraig


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Status: offline 		Talk about drama.... NO! You didn't answer the Ranger's question. Maybe you thought you did in some sort of parallel universe but I don't believe anyone on this planet realized it! Just in case you forgot, the question was, "Why you do define an alternative view-point as stirring the pot?"
Question... did you mean “gets you know where?" or “gets you nowhere?"

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