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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 3:32:04 PM

slavejale

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Greetings to All and all

maybe im wrong, hopefully im not...

sex is a reward at times. i am a very sexual person and can be found humping a leg or two (His leg of course) to show my urges....however, if i have messed up or havent done certain things right, it is His right to withold(sp?) using me sexually. On the other hand, it can also be a (thinking of how to say this) relationship thing where we just have sex because just because. (i am not putting that right so hopefully somone could decipher it lol)

so i do understand when she said that He said if things are done right then sure (im not going to speak on the 6months part though), He will have sex with her. Should He tell her what is "right" sure....however, if He decides not to, well that is also His right and im just going to end it here.

(hopefully i do not get dumped from this side of the forums *chuckles*)

well wishes to All and all

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 4:26:03 PM

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The problem is that he agreed that he would meet her sexual needs, from my understanding anyway. I don't think an owner has an unconditional right to go back on their word.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 4:29:07 PM

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I have no idea what exactly it is that you are alluding to? Perhaps if you were to send me some tit and gash shots the matter might come into full clarity.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 4:43:24 PM

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Greetings to All and all
greetings aquaticsub

i think we are speaking of right vs. morality here. He has a right to do what He pleases, now is it morally right that is another issue.
i think i put that right....if i didnt please let me know.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 5:30:11 PM

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I completely disagree. I do not believe an owner has the right to promise one set of circumstances and completely change them while still expecting complete ownership. Otherwise, what good is their word and what makes them worth serving?

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 5:49:31 PM

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I'm going to take an alternate route. The master didn't say "When she is perfect in every way" He said "when he feels everything is perfect."

The question is "What exactly does he consider "everything perfect" to entail?"

I think it's perfectly fine for him to make this condition, I think it's perfectly fine of her to agree to live in it and all its subjectiveness. I think it was silly not to have discussed this beforehand, but there you go.

I often tell someone "I'll do this when I feel ready." Am I being cruel and unfair to them by giving that answer? They accept me as their partner, thus they accept my judgement that "when I feel ready" is a reasonable expectation within our relationship.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 6:48:40 PM

slavejale

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Greetings to All and all
Greetings to Ms. (LuckyAlbatross)

i think that is what i was going for. yes, it is not "right" or "fair" to her that He did this, however she can beg release or she can...deal with it.
To All and all:
The guy that i am with now said that we were going to have sexual relations its now been a little over a month and there has been nothing. He says when he feels that we are were we need to be then, it will happen. Yes, i want to have sex with Him but i believe that He has whats best at heart. Does he like me less? No. Is He being misleading? No. When He feels the time is right then it will happen. If i am unhappy with it, i have the option of begging release or ending the relationship.

well wishes to All and all

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/7/2008 8:00:18 PM

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There's no way that we can answer this. You have to ask HIM.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/8/2008 5:19:01 PM

Mindful

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

you know-- after further thought, I've begun to realize that I find this whole "topping from the bottom" war cry as a tool used by SOME D-types to manipulate their s-types when nothing else works.

I don't think you can top from the bottom unless he's not topping from the top.

I absolutely agree with you, OmegaG. Any good dominant simply will not be topped from the bottom. A dominant who uses this expression with his submissive or slave is not secure in his dominance, and he also insults her by implicitly denying who she is at her core. DaddysHappiness should be free to raise this issue with her master, and he in turn should have the integrity and sensitivity to deal with the issue honestly and forthrightly. The fact that HE is not addressing this issue with her and is seemingly unaware of her frustrations tells me that he is using his dominant position to avoid the issue and is damaging the relationship in the process. My view is that a good dominant uses his role to elicit communication and concerns, to strengthen and grow the relationship, not to harm it.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/22/2008 2:03:01 PM

DaddysHappiness

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After screwing up my courage i did broach the subject with Him, gingerly and with great care to not imply that there might be something wrong with Him. Even a medical condition of this nature is a sensitive topic.

He did admit that he did indeed have a problem. i have since helped Him to make an appointment with a Urologist. When i expressed my curiosity as to why He had not been more open with me in the beginning, it was out of concern. Concern that i would not give Him a chance and take the time to get to know Him first.

A trust has been broken, but hopefully one that can be repaired. My goodness, there are plenty of ways to be intimate with this slave besides one that requires a certain part of Him.

He was afraid of losing a slave that He has found to be extremely obedient and of good service to Him.

So fingers are crossed and this girl will continue forward in the hopes that the worst in behind them now that He knows He can share with her what for Him was an embarrassing subject.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/22/2008 2:06:53 PM

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It sounds like something to beg for. Begging is always good.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/22/2008 2:20:48 PM

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glad things worked out and glad you came back to tell us, its a rare and delightful thing.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/22/2008 2:22:56 PM

DaddysHappiness

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How does a slave know when it is permissable to beg? If everything is at the discretion of her Master, then is begging not wrong or attempting to top from the bottom?

Is she too obediant, too willing for Him to express His needs? This goes for more then just intercourse, but in general, when is it ok to beg for permission to have an orgasm even?

This girl is fearful of making any errors

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/22/2008 4:35:19 PM

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No profile, no answers...

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/22/2008 7:07:59 PM

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I don't think DaddysHappiness will be reponding to yoru posts, the profile is dead.

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RE: In need of advice. New slave, former sub - 4/22/2008 9:06:45 PM

joyfulmalcontent

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i personally couldn't enter a relationship that wasn't heavy on sex and sexual playing and pain. it's how i'm built. can't do without it. so i look for partners that have the same needs and desires that I have. compatibility in areas other than sex too. its not all just about sex but sex is a HUGE part of an intimate relationship for me. if you both talked about this beforehand, it's foresworn. six months without sex and no clear reason for it? HELL NO!!! time to find out what's what', babygirl. a life without getting your needs met, slave or dom, sub or switch, is an empty life. there could be someone else out there that's perfect for you while you're living a half life, striving for perfection in order to get laid when there's a dom out there just waiting for you to please him in EVERY WAY and not act like he's doing you a favor but that you're a worthy desirable beautiful slave.

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