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RE: Rope starter collection - 4/25/2008 8:18:52 AM

Kinbakudayo

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Well to respond to the original post. You ask what kind of rope but you dont state what kind of style of bondage you wish to do. What style did you have in mind or do you know the difference in styles of bondage are out there? That will make this whole answer simpler to give you.

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RE: Rope starter collection - 4/28/2008 7:51:56 AM

Knottydad

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I'm about starting rigging too. With no style at all except mine, because I'm influenced by both japanese and californian scenes, and by the 1000s pictures I've ever seen. First I'll start riggning, then I will see which style fits me better.
I just had many looks at Twistedmonk's and Rainbowrope websites, and I finally choose solid braid MFP because such synthetic rope doesn't need intensive care after each session, only a good washing. Maybe I will change for hemp/jute later if my partner appreciates being tied enough.
So I ordered a kit using the Twistedmonk's "enthusiast" kit suggested dimensions (4 x 15 ft + 2 x 30 ft). I would just have ordered an extra 50' ou 60' bit for large rope harnesses, like those advertised by the 2KnottyBoys in their excellent book, "2KB showing you the ropes".

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RE: Rope starter collection - 4/29/2008 1:59:53 AM

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I started out using solid-braid Nylon from the local home improvement store (stay away from the bagged stuff - only buy from the spools if you go this route). Initially (this was six years ago), I picked up 100' of 7/16" rope (it was less than $20) and cut it in half's to make 50', 25' and 12.5' pieces. This worked well for most things and life was good. I eventually added some 1/4" solid braid nylon to the mix in 25' and 12.5' pieces. These ended up being a little too short for the people I was playing with.

The past couple years I've been moving more into Hemp and am now using 30' and 15' lengths and am quite happy with the lengths. Hemp is a natural fiber and I do occasionally play with those who have grass allergies, so the Nylon still gets used.

Nylon (MFP is almost the same, just a little less stretch) worked very well when I started as it was something I could pick up locally and was inexpensive. I was also able to dye the Nylon (the Two Knotty Boys have a YouTube video on how to do this) to make different colors (dying doesn't work as well as most Nylon is really a Nylon/Poly blend so the dye doesn't take uniformly).

I had eyed Hemp for a while, but couldn't bring myself to pay $0.80 to $1.00 per foot for it. Instead, I've purchased all the Hemp that I have (over 1000' now), raw and have treated it myself. If you go this route, you'll understand why conditioned Hemp rope runs as much as it does.

Some people also swear by cotton rope. I wasn't able to find a source for that locally so never went down that road. Every type has a slightly different feel, and its own pros & cons.

The best advice I could give on type of rope would be to pick something that you feel like working with (based on how it feels in your hands, whether it will produce the look that you want, etc). Try out different lengths and see what works for you. There is quite a difference between tying 100-pound models as compared to more average people.

There have also been some good discussions on rope kits in the Yahoo group AdultRopeArt.

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RE: Rope starter collection - 5/1/2008 6:50:52 PM

Esinem

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHungryTiger

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The idea being that a doubled rope can be pulled through in one motion.
Oh wow .....

I have been traching folks the 'armspan then double-double-double thing for rope lengths for ages now. But I always did it cause those were bractical lengths for the amount of rope going on the body. I never thought of it as a 'pull through in one motion' length before.

Mind if I steel that idea and pass it around? [blackmail]You owe me a favor since I let you post my rope material article on your website[/blackmail]

Why not? It wasn't my idea. It's the wisdom of Osada Steve

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RE: Rope starter collection - 5/1/2008 7:03:34 PM

Esinem

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IMHO, I find synthetic limiting. Being slippery, it is harder to secure. It also has a low burn speed usually. Even if you are not doing Japanese style, having a whole lot of lengths just seems to complicate matters. With one length, whatever you pick up will do the job as you can join it, so there's no fumbling around to find a particular length. Also, if you have a 50-60ft rope you will be there all day pulling through (not that isn't fun if you route it right

). Still, each to their own.

With the right jute, you can get away without treating it. I didn't bother with my last lot of ropes and I can't say they are massively different once they have been used a few times.

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