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Do you believe religion has a purpose other than giving hope?

A farse

44% (8)

Hope

33% (6)

I'm impartial

22% (4)

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Do you believe religion has a purpose other than giving... - 4/7/2008 9:24:42 PM

TheKingofKings

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Do you believe that religion give more than hope? Or it is just a farsical thing that people use to justify their own means?

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/7/2008 9:25:29 PM

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/7/2008 9:29:06 PM

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Hope? How about starting with coherence? Let alone spelling.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/7/2008 9:42:31 PM

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I didn't like your poll options, gave the vote a pass. To your question, I would say that a belief system, including atheism, provides focus for conscious energy and metaphors for those things we know "are" but cannot yet quantify or explain. Even a nihilist has the easy answer of "there are no answers" and whatever cynical comfort they can draw from that.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/7/2008 9:50:10 PM

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 2:00:08 AM

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Yes, it is for more than hope.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 2:06:22 AM

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Just out of interest OP, why do you have such a down on religions? Did someone let you down? Did you not get what you wanted from some religion? Do you fear it? It just seems all you post about is religion and how stupid it is.

I'm not religious myself, but I do understand that for some it is an important part of their lives for whatever reason. What is wrong with that?

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 2:21:26 AM

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Religions try to give people the guidance to protect themselves from contemporary evil (Satan). These days in that respect they fail miserably.

Many religions also address the spiritual and the afterlife.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 3:41:32 AM

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Religions of the world have had a horrible track record. Many of them are responsible for murder and war and creating poverty and such.

This has changed in the last 200 years, but there's more to human history than the last 200 years!

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 3:51:57 AM

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Not so sure Gemini - albeit we have little to go on, pre-Christian religions seem to have existed peaceably enough alongside one another.

But Christianity was a whole different deal than its forebears - its claim to being unique and all others (from which Christianity is derived!) to be works of the devil, combined with its use as a political tool whereby to preserve Roman prestige, is where and why it was so different and why it engaged in centuries of crimes against humanity including genocide to establish its claims.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 3:53:15 AM

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Aztechs, Mayans, the Egyptian God Kings (Pharos), the list goes on and on.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 5:41:42 AM

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More than hope.

Unfortunately, the construction of your survey choices don't allow for that answer.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 6:03:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gemini1766

Religions of the world have had a horrible track record. Many of them are responsible for murder and war and creating poverty and such.

Horrible people have horrible track records, and are willing to use religion for justification.

Religions dont' have track records ... people do.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 7:59:42 AM

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I too won't cast a vote as neither of the options are satisfactory and I don't believe in religion. I place a greater validity in being spiritual instead.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 8:10:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

What is wrong with that?

It's a different faith than his own.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 8:15:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

But Christianity was a whole different deal than its forebears - its claim to being unique and all others (from which Christianity is derived!) to be works of the devil, combined with its use as a political tool whereby to preserve Roman prestige, is where and why it was so different and why it engaged in centuries of crimes against humanity including genocide to establish its claims.

Paul established this tradition in his bid to take down Christianity for the Romans and the Jews. It didn't start out as a religion thing, and it didn't keep being one; it was always politics and power, with a convenient vessel. People always make excuses to go to war, or to fuck each other over. And it doesn't take religions to do that, just any belief system, including a culture. Compare the prison system, racism, etc...

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 8:42:56 AM

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not enough options for me to vote :(

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 9:05:19 AM

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not many choices to choose from, OP.

in my experience, my faith has given me not only hope but comfort and support especially when my daughter had her traumatic accident 8yrs ago.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 12:01:00 PM

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Religion gives people a moral compass to follow. To be able to discern what is right from wrong.

Some people anyway.

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RE: Do you believe religion has a purpose other than gi... - 4/8/2008 12:26:12 PM

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God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent — it says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks, please. Cash and in small bills.

History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.

One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word.

One man's theology is another man's belly laugh.

The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history.

The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man.
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