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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:14:42 AM

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God no, I hate debates. Arguing on the internet is like winning the gold medal at the Special Olympics -- even if you win, you're still retarded.

My commiseration, you just won .

No Kittin... we both win.

Get the champagne!

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:17:50 AM

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But 40 years later you remember it happened?

Soooo ineffective.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:18:57 AM

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The most beautiful illustration of the political power of the Olympic games are the images of Jesse Owens and the thought of Hitler fucking off, furious that yet another 'non-aryen' was about to win the gold medal. (Incidentally, Owens and his colleagues got better treatment in nazi Berlin than in their native America.)

Edited, because I'm a ditz.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:19:02 AM

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I hate to see you two fight but if you must, can you wait while I get the baby oil?

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:21:07 AM

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The most beautiful illustration of the political power of the Olympic games are the images of Jesse Owens and the thought of Hitler fucking off, furious that yet another 'non-aryens' was about to win the gold medal. (Incidentally, Owens and his colleagues better treatment in nazi Berlin than in their native America.)

Seconded!!!! I always giggle about that... I just imagine the look Hitler must have had on his face and cackle. Take THAT, fucker!

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:21:16 AM

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In my view, the Olympics are both sporting and political. Primarily, however, they are financial.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:22:41 AM

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Can't we do Extra Virgin Olive? At least, if some accidentally gets in the mouth, it's comestible. And it's more in the spirit of the twue OG.

Hic - nice Champers, Pyrresfanie

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:23:11 AM

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But 40 years later you remember it happened?

Soooo ineffective.

Reality, yes, I remember it but not in a "good" way.
Did they (somehow) expect people to espouse their cause?
And what exactly was their cause?
That's the funny part, no-one can remember.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:26:38 AM

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It was an extremely significant message to me, massively influential growing up and Smith and Carlos are well-remembered by the people they were "talking to" that day.

You should take a course in Cultural Studies, it'd do you a power of good.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:27:32 AM

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That's the funny part, no-one can remember.

That's interesting, how we can have a selective memory with regards to history. I wasn't even a twinkle in my father's eye in '68, yet even I know what happened at those OG.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:34:00 AM

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The most beautiful illustration of the political power of the Olympic games are the images of Jesse Owens and the thought of Hitler fucking off, furious that yet another 'non-aryen' was about to win the gold medal. (Incidentally, Owens and his colleagues got better treatment in nazi Berlin than in their native America.)

I'm a ditz.

Yes, and if he would have stayed the fine hosts you hold in such high esteem would have made sure he went camping with the Jews, homosexuals, communists, and many others in the resort town of Auschwitz.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:34:06 AM

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It was an extremely significant message to me, massively influential growing up and Smith and Carlos are well-remembered by the people they were "talking to" that day.

You should take a course in Cultural Studies, it'd do you a power of good.

LOL, Reality, WTF was the message?
Do you think you could possibly "share" that with us?

And why do people want to protest the Olympics in China?
Inquiring minds want to know!

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:37:23 AM

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The most beautiful illustration of the political power of the Olympic games are the images of Jesse Owens and the thought of Hitler fucking off, furious that yet another 'non-aryen' was about to win the gold medal. (Incidentally, Owens and his colleagues got better treatment in nazi Berlin than in their native America.)

I'm a ditz.

Yes, and if he would have stayed the fine hosts you hold in such high esteem would have made sure he went camping with the Jews, homosexuals, communists, and many others in the resort town of Auschwitz.

Did you deliberately miss the point of my post, or were you just pretending :-) ?

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:38:30 AM

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The most beautiful illustration of the political power of the Olympic games are the images of Jesse Owens and the thought of Hitler fucking off, furious that yet another 'non-aryen' was about to win the gold medal. (Incidentally, Owens and his colleagues got better treatment in nazi Berlin than in their native America.)

I'm a ditz.

Yes, and if he would have stayed the fine hosts you hold in such high esteem would have made sure he went camping with the Jews, homosexuals, communists, and many others in the resort town of Auschwitz.

Slamdunk!
KittenSol, that kind of ...backfired on you.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:41:47 AM

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Hmmm... I don't agree with you. It just shows that Merc doesn't like to be reminded that America was an incredibly racist, seggregated society where Jesse Owens was unable to take public transport or even walk into a bar. But I understand how it feels; believe it or not, even I enjoy being antagonistic at times

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:46:45 AM

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I think using Nazi Germany and Hitler as points to bolster your argument was where you went wrong.
I try to never use NAZIS as a reference.

It's probably not a good thing to imply that Nazi Germany was better than the U.S.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:49:49 AM

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Hmmm... I don't agree with you. It just shows that Merc doesn't like to be reminded that America was an incredibly racist, seggregated society where Jesse Owens was unable to take public transport or even walk into a bar. But I understand how it feels; believe it or not, even I enjoy being antagonistic at times .

The issue is more about discounting the work of Nazis and understanding what they were and what they did. They didn't have any redeeming factors and no justification can be made. No comparison putting them in favorable light reflects intelligence coming from the person making the reference.

However, at least you got the tense correct. Remember that in the future.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:52:16 AM

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It was the height of the Civil Rights movement, months after the assassination of MLK. I wish I'd been a bit older - I was just a baby but I'm pretty certain I watched it from my cot.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:56:36 AM

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UH OH! I smell a

!!!!

Grabbing the popcorn for this one, anyone else want some? It's bring-your-own-lawn chair, I'm afraid.

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RE: Olympics/protests - 4/8/2008 9:58:32 AM

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Pyrrsefanie, what does that Cyrillic script mean?

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