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LadyHibiscus -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 7:49:37 AM)

MY mother is a virgin, thank you very much!  Talk to me about sex?  Well, that never happened, believe me.

Some men who are really great lovers can be lousy sometimes.  Actually, I knew that a relationship I was in was headed for the end when the sex became spectacularly bad---the *same* things that I used to love, and I was lying there thinking :WHAT am I doing here?:

I am going to venture out on a limb here and say that there are women out there who are lousy at sex, too.  Do the men notice?  <G>  well, maybe they don't, but I am sure women are equally to blame for sexual dissatisfaction in many relationships. 




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 8:21:05 AM)

Uhhh...

My boy's actually pretty damn good at sex... like... mindblowingly-good.  He's a friggin' sex machine.

So... yeah.




aidan -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 8:59:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

Uhhh...

My boy's actually pretty damn good at sex... like... mindblowingly-good.  He's a friggin' sex machine.

So... yeah.



He gives you the fever 'n' a cold sweat? The way you like, it is the way it is?

(Pyrrse! Should I take'm to the bridge?)




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 9:01:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: aidan

He gives you the fever 'n' a cold sweat? The way you like, it is the way it is?

(Pyrrse! Should I take'm to the bridge?)


AIDAN!  [:D]

The things that come out of your mouth sometimes, boy!




khem -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 9:15:01 AM)

lol I think he was doing the Godfather of Soul... James Brown.




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 9:25:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: khem

lol I think he was doing the Godfather of Soul... James Brown.


Oh!

Uh.... well, that explains why I was sitting here like "whaaaat?"  I'm afraid I missed the Soul Train [:D]




Stephann -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 9:35:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

If there is anything that makes women in general better lovers than men, it is the fact that we are socialized in this society to be empathic toward others--to show sensitivity to another's needs and to give them pleasure/comfort.


Bingo.

I know I'm good at sex.  I don't think it, I don't imagine it, I know it.  I'm sure that comes off as conceited, but it's really not.

I'm a very empathetic person.  When my partner's happy, I'm happy.  When my partner's excited, I feel excited.  When my partner's frustrated, I'm frustrated.  Most of my enjoyment in sex, comes from my partner's enjoyment.  The harder they orgasm, the harder *I* orgasm.  By really listening and paying attention to my partner, I double both of our pleasure.

chezzy,

Sexual growth has nothing to do with your parents, or society, or watching pornography.  It has everything to do with learning to listen to your partner, instead of your penis.  It has nothing to do with your parents, everything to do with taking responsiblity for your own skills and desires.

Regards,

Stephan




aidan -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 10:41:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

quote:

ORIGINAL: khem

lol I think he was doing the Godfather of Soul... James Brown.


Oh!

Uh.... well, that explains why I was sitting here like "whaaaat?"  I'm afraid I missed the Soul Train [:D]



lol, sorry, I didn't mean to cause any confusion.

...

Okay...I did a little bit. I like sowing mischief. ^__^




atursvcMaam -> RE: Why men Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 10:53:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chezzy52

of course i spell men wrong in the topic box first time out..LOL


All right, i'll guess, is it because they see things the opposite way from Women?




LotusSong -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 11:05:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MladyHathor
so maybe its a thread that provides hints on how to tell your partner that they aren't the olympic sexual champion you had hoped for--


And here is the main reason why it's good to be the Domme :)  Nothing is more beneficial than to have the guy shut up and listen and LEARN.




AquaticSub -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 11:10:08 AM)

~Fast Reply~

Ok, I'm in the "Men suck at sex as general rule? Since when?" camp. I've had some sex that wasn't mind-blowing but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say the men involved sucked at sex. They just didn't push my buttons.




midgetmafiosa -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 11:29:44 AM)

My mother told me that waiting until marriage was a mistake because there were too  many other factors at play in a new marriage without worrying if the sex was good. So naturally, I was a virgin when I got married!

Men that suck at sex, huh? Well, there was the guy who asked me where the clitoris was, and if he could get to that from the inside....other than that, I've had some mediocre sex that triggers no real memories for me, good or bad. I think a lot of it is dependant on each party ASKING (or demanding, as the case may be) for what they want. Even with a one-night stand I know how to say what I want - that doesn't go away. And yeah, some men need a little more training than others. But so do some women.




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 11:41:17 AM)

why men suck at sex??? because they've already played with themselves 10 times before that!!! no energy left! thats why viagra was made!!!




vampchick88 -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 6:41:57 PM)

Hmmmm....well while some guys do suck in bed....I've been extremely fortunate at finding pet. he is the best man I've ever had I thought it was weird in the beginning but he's all about my pleasure first and foremost. The curve he has is what dreams are made of, a toy couldn't even get this good. He knows exactly what he's doing, the goal at mind, and has the skills of a god! he also has an amazing tounge that is very talented. Over all on a scale of 1-10 pet would get a 20 when it comes to my satisfaction in bed. But thats just my two cents.[:)]




PsyVamp -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 7:10:55 PM)

Hmmm, let me think.. my sex talk with my mother was  "use two,  they break" and "sex is better with someone you love"
Well.... I may disagree on the second part, and I've never had a condom break, although I do know its possible...

From  what I can tell, good sex IS a matter of communication like most here have been saying.  And each person is different, so what may work on one, does nothing for the next person.  The first one would think you're great in bed, the second would say you bored her to tears.
And yes, when I was younger I had the "get it over with" moments... when I was young and inexperienced.    And you know what?  Sometimes life gets in the way too.  Sex can't always be "mindblowing" but it doesn't have to be bad. 
And if it is bad, acknowledge it!  Try to find the humor in it and it may open the door to communication.

If the person you are with is too shy to talk about sex.. and I understand it happens.. then you need to be able to slow down and take the time to pay attention to other non verbal cues..sounds, movements, facial expressions... these can all paint a picture of the person's likes or dislikes.

Lady Jag.... (who is much too tired from taking care of a sick um to have mindblowing sex tonight)




chezzy52 -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 10:09:42 PM)

Y'all have been great in your responses.I started this thread because someone had made a remark about men sucking at sex and probably in a kidding manner to an extent.But i thought about it and put this out there as a this is what basically happened to me and a handful of friends.




asubmissiveheart -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 10:10:48 PM)

What is a nem?




Aimtoplease101 -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 10:36:02 PM)

Sucking is a highly under-rated component of good sex-- some are just better at it than others.  :)

Regards, ATP




LPslittleclip -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/11/2008 11:19:59 PM)

not all suck at sex just the ones that had to learn the hard way by trial and error. i learned from a box of old porno mags. since my parents never talked to me about sex. now i have 4 kids and in a poly relationship. keep learning and good luck




Wickad -> RE: Why nem Suck at Sex (4/12/2008 12:34:08 AM)

(fast reply)

Greetings,

I think some men suck at sex and I think some women do as well.  There are also some amazing lover's of both sexes.

I'd like to first point out that my mother gave me a book about sex and then refused to answer any of my questions - lol.  I was very concerned about the thing referred to as 'my period'.  It seemed, from the way the book portrayed it, at least, that your period lasted a number of days (though it never did say how many) and you should start taking 'the pill' 5 days into IT.  I was very shocked ... how could anyone bleed for 5 days and still be alive?  LMAO!!  True story ... I really was sheltered as a child.

On to "Why Men Suck at Sex?" .....

I think this is a rather complicated issue.  Many have brought up the idea of communication and that men don't ask questions and women don't tell them anything.  I think this is true.  However, it is very hard to tell a guy what he is doing wrong when 1) the woman may be just as uneducated as the man on this issue, and 2) trying to give helpful criticism to a man with a fragile ego ... well, it's not a lot of fun and often degrades into nasty name calling.

The second reason is that our society revolves around male entitlement.  Most men believe they are entitled to their pleasure and it doesn't really matter what the woman is doing.  A lot of women also hold to this belief (ie: faking it) and thus prop up and perpetuate the idea that it's the man's pleasure that is of tantamount importance.  It is a strong (and strange) woman who demands that her needs be met and that her needs are just as important, if not more important, than the needs of her male partner.

Thirdly, ... men (mostly men but some women) need to realize that a vagina is not an inside-out penis.  A woman's physical anatomy is very different than a man's.  A woman's arousal cycle is also different than a man's.  Women tend to start becoming aroused long before the cloths come off.  It behooves men to stimulate a woman's mind and imagination hours before they hope to have sex if they are seeking to be considered an amazing lover.  Basically, men and women are very different when it comes to what feels good and what turns them on.  Women know that men are visual and thus dress and adorn themselves to entice ... maybe it's time men started thinking more about a woman's arousal and 'dressing to titillate her mind'.

Finally,  there is something to be learned from the bad, chauvinist joke of ... "How does a man know a woman has reached orgasm?" .... "Who cares!"  Throughout most men's sexual lives they tend to objectify women and thus 'don't care' what she is doing as long as they get off.  As time goes by, and with societal pressure, this tends to evolve into believing that if they are concerned about their partner's sexual satisfaction then some how they are 'whipped' and are less manly.  This way of thinking does tend to be fading (thank goodness) but it is being replaced by a new standard by which men will measure themselves against each other - can you satisfy 'your' woman?  If you can, you are seen as manly and if you don't ... then you are less.  In any case, these attitudes treat women's bodies, and their sexuality as objects by which to measure themselves against each other rather than simply being a way to share pleasure with your partner.

As I had stated earlier, I'm sure their are some crappy women lover's as well, but .... this thread was looking at why men suck at sex - lol.  Maybe someone should start one on why women suck at sex.  And ... have you ever wondered why that thread hasn't been started?

Wickad




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