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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/13/2008 10:11:37 AM   
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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/13/2008 10:42:44 AM   
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Indeed.  I'm a rancher's daughter.  I know what a bull is for. 


Certainly.  They're bought or bred to conform to certain specifications, properly controlled and made to perform for the peak years of their lives, and when they can no longer perform, knocked in the head and made into dog food. 

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/13/2008 10:46:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was thinking more about the way they either fuck on command or spend their lives trying to throw little men with spurs off their backs while being zapped in the balls by animal handlers and smacked in the chops by rodeo clowns.

But your answer also works. 

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/13/2008 10:58:43 AM   
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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/13/2008 12:18:20 PM   
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ps--dad grew up farming, too!  herding the water buffalo was one of his boyish tasks.....

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/14/2008 5:08:07 AM   
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One thing we did that worked very well was that she would give a guy a hj with the first encounter.


I DONT give hand jobs as an interviewing tool. 



Like I said before... different people want different things.  It was my ex's idea to do that and she had fun with it.  Who was I to say no?  The role of a bull varies from relationship to relationship same as the Domme and cuck.   No two relationships will ever be alike and in my mind it will always be redefined by anyone in it.  I didn't even know what we were doing was called cuckolding until after we had broken off our 3 1/2 year relationship (thought we were just engaged in some wierd sort of D/s swinging that we invented).

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/14/2008 5:22:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		AS mine said Fox is the "bull" to my cuck Angel. Angel and I have been into the cuckolding fantasy for far longerr than I have had Fox, but he is the first really steady partner. I had Kitten before him, and several other short relationships, some that did get sexual some that didnt. I found that as long as they know what they are getting into, Dom and sub work equally well for the "task", but the situation and boundaries need to be out in the open. One of my limits, Angel was not going to watch. His closet fantasy is still around, and when we are all living together eventualy it might be fulfilled, but he will never be invited to see or take part. He does get to hear the stories, about how I am satisfied by Fox and how I keep him around even if he is useless to me as a boy. The other was that there would be no one-nighters. If I wasnt interested in actually being with someone for at least a decent partnership, I wasnt going to play. I have no interest in sex for sexs sake. I was dominating Angel in our way, adding this to the mix. I was seeking out someone to keep me sexually satisfied, not to feed his kink.

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/14/2008 6:56:55 AM   
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different people want different things.


I'm not knocking your say of doing things.  I just can't fathom that aspect for myself.  Hell, I have a hard time finding someone I like enough to even have sex with.  So, I just can't see give some arbitrary stranger a hand job to see how we might fare.  That's all.  And, I agree, too each their own.


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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/14/2008 7:01:07 AM   
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I have no interest in sex for sexs sake.


That's where my difficulty is going to lie.  I find it very difficult to find someone I actually want to have sex with.  I have to be mentally stimulated by them and feel some type of emotional attachment.  I have a feeling I am giong to need to seek a "sex slave" that is a commited exchange.  A more poly type of arrangement.  And, this would be good in another way because we can all be tested and even have more fun.  I am "phobic" about that type of thing and this would allow everyone to have a clear mind about any disease issues, as well.


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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/14/2008 8:27:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

quote:

I have no interest in sex for sexs sake.


That's where my difficulty is going to lie.  I find it very difficult to find someone I actually want to have sex with.  I have to be mentally stimulated by them and feel some type of emotional attachment.  I have a feeling I am giong to need to seek a "sex slave" that is a commited exchange.  A more poly type of arrangement.  And, this would be good in another way because we can all be tested and even have more fun.  I am "phobic" about that type of thing and this would allow everyone to have a clear mind about any disease issues, as well.



I am much the same, and this is why the cuckold thing has never made much sense to me.  Why would I have a primary who was useless to me sexually?   If I found someone else I enjoyed sex with, why wouldn't I be adding that person to the family?



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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/14/2008 8:50:46 AM   
MistressVnus


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Why would I have a primary who was useless to me sexually?   If I found someone else I enjoyed sex with, why wouldn't I be adding that person to the family?


Well, if this works out....my cuck will be my primary and he DEFINATELY is NOT useless sexually..*chuckle*
However, he really enjoys this (being cucked) and also enjoys having primary sexual activity.  And it is something I have wanted to do for a long time (mental fantasies...emotional sadism).
But, I've never really found the right situation or slave.  And, now...I think it may have arrived.  *BIGGRIN*

He also understands that we may need to find a 2nd slave.  He is bi and so he likes this idea and has been in this situation before.  So we are not wandering into "new" territory for him.  He can handle all of this.  It's ME who is walking into new territory.  Oh....but I DO love adventure!!  *chuckle*


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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/14/2008 7:08:00 PM   
alphaleague


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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

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different people want different things.


I'm not knocking your say of doing things.  I just can't fathom that aspect for myself.  Hell, I have a hard time finding someone I like enough to even have sex with.  So, I just can't see give some arbitrary stranger a hand job to see how we might fare.  That's all.  And, I agree, too each their own.


Just an FYI.. they were not arbitrary strangers off the street.. Potential applicants that made it that level of screening would be a much more appropriate description.

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 12:24:02 AM   
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Indeed.  xBullx also ought to be careful what he wishes for. 


Aww, come on... xBullx was a good sport.

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 1:45:24 AM   
MsCfromMelbourne


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If you cuck your slave.....how do you look for a Bull?  What have you found to be most effective?  Where do you look?
What do you require for "legitamacy."  Do you think a m/Dom is a good idea...??  Or, another slave with Alpha tendencies?
Inquiring minds wanna know!!



Disclaimer: cuckoldry is not my kink.  I only have sex as an expression of love.  (However, that was not always the case - you live and learn)

Seek out your local swinging community.  Swingers are everywhere and it can be good fun to go to their parties and watch them all f*cking.  Its cheaper than buying a porn movie and you get to watch the real thing in all its huffy, puffy, bare-assed glory.

There you will find the kind of men happy to have casual sex NSA with you and also happy to be watched right then. 

You can pick out an attractive one who seem to know what he is doing. Your SO (the cuck?) can help you choose if that is part of the dynamic. You can meet the Bull's partner (if any) and check s/he has no problem.  S/he might watch too, if you like.

You can ask if the Bull is bisexual and negotiate what he will and will not do.  Some cities have special parties just for bi-s.  You can have sex then and there at the swingers party if you like.

Using friends as Bulls is not a good idea IMO.  To much potential for upset cucks, emotional complication and ruined friendships.

But safe sex is your biggest issue IMO. 

IME no doctor will promise that condoms definitely prevent the transfer of herpes.  The more the Bull sleeps around, the higher the risk of STDs to you and the cuck. I have personally seen swingers who are in and out of multiple males and females with no condoms.  Often they are drunk or stoned, unfortunately.

I am not sure how you can verify any Bull is clean, because they are invariably promiscuous (and proud of it!!!), but you can always ask for medical evidence I suppose.

< Message edited by MsCfromMelbourne -- 4/16/2008 1:46:19 AM >

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 5:22:27 AM   
Madame4a


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Status: offline 		Fascinating discussion ladies.. and gentlemen ... this is something very new to me, perhaps mostly because I'm a dyke and so the whole cuck thing has never been something I've been exposed to.  It seems, to me, to be something from the Fem Domme and hetero side of things?  Its fascinating...

I can see the appeal, although there is none for me.  At this point, finding just one man is hard enough.. and my boi has no fantasies of watching me with someone else... in fact, she doesn't want to watch, she wants to be completely involved, should it come to that.

Wonderful insight .. thanks...

There are some days when I think I don't learn a damned thing.. and then I read a whole thread and think.. WOW.

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 5:33:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I find it amusing when the subs here figure it out that I'm into cuckolding... I'm actually surprised by the number who want to be cucked.  The ONE that I would chose to Bull is the one who never asked for it.  He said that he would not be opposed to the idea, but would never expect it.  That's part of what makes him so appealing.  The ones who eagerly volunteer for the position are the ones that pretty much get tossed in the HNG bin and rejected as applicants.

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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 6:05:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		First, let me thank everyone for their insights, thoughts, and suggestions.  It has brought to me some great ideas and, hopefully, at some point in time it might all be put to good use.

HOWEVER....it seems that another prospect has bit the dust.  Can't seem to tell time or understand instructions.  Nothing new.  Just another guy looking for the cheap thrill and not willing to do what it takes.  As I suspected....if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

But, the petitioners keep coming and I will keep weeding through this nasty garden to find my rosebud.  (No, not THAT rosebud...*chuckle*)



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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 6:19:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

HOWEVER....it seems that another prospect has bit the dust.  Can't seem to tell time or understand instructions.  Nothing new.  Just another guy looking for the cheap thrill and not willing to do what it takes.  As I suspected....if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

But, the petitioners keep coming and I will keep weeding through this nasty garden to find my rosebud.  (No, not THAT rosebud...*chuckle*)




ah... we need to talk... and I don't share your optimism... at least for me right now.. I'm feeling pretty... hmmm.. not sure I can characterize it...


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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 1:39:58 PM   
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RE: Grabbin a BULL by the horns. - 4/16/2008 2:58:07 PM   
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How about martial arts academies and kick-boxing schools, military bases and police or firefighter academies?


I don't know?  How about them?...Have you had any personal success with it?


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