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AllforFun -> What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/11/2008 5:57:40 PM)
I started this thread in response to one I saw earlier.... I didnt think my derailing the thread would be a good idea so I decided to start a new one with a twist. Here is the answer from the subby side: AAkasha and other Dominants are dead on..... There is something about a woman who KNOWS I want to be her whipped little puppy, but also knows that Im afraid to be. Afraid because of years of conditioning, society's expectations, and even personal expectations. How far am I willing to go...would I ever let her break me? what if I couldnt help it? What if she drove me to the brink of insane lust and stripped away all my defenses and then gave me that choice......... too leave or be Hers....could I resist...doubt it, lol. Being submissive for short periods of time isnt difficult, its that long term surrender.......that TRUE surrender that both excites and terrifies a sub. so in the end....we are adrenaline junkies looking to push the envelope to that ultimate goal....and what happens if we ever get there? I guess thats why Im here.

ShaktiSama -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/11/2008 8:31:19 PM)
smiles I will be interested to see what other submissives seeking a Mistress will say. This could be a great thread. [:)]

aidan -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/11/2008 11:04:58 PM)
If we're talking about sexual attraction, what inspires lust and that subspace high...okay... For me, it's a sense of helplessness, of vulnerability, of fear. She is strong, powerful, a force of nature and I can do naught but weather her, to endure her whims, and hope that eventually there will be some kind of respite, some form of mercy. She stands above me, impossibly tall through perspective and the mind-altering chemicals that the brain produces, a ziggaraut of wild feminine power, a snarl and smile intertwining on her lips. I can wriggle, try to flex my arms when she pins my wrists down. I can even go savage, snap and bite and roar; hell, she wants that. It makes her laugh, because this is all lead up to a forgone conclusion. She knows I can't resist her will, mentally or physically. She knows I'm at her whim, that she can do whatever she likes, and that I'm terrified because I know that will include a good deal of pain and scariness. And she knows I'm twisted enough that the idea makes me slickly, stiffly, drippingly wet. pant, pant, pant So. A sense of physical and mental power, and the inclination towards using it in a predatory fashion. Yes.

Pyrrsefanie -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/11/2008 11:06:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aidan If we're talking about sexual attraction, what inspires lust and that subspace high...okay... For me, it's a sense of helplessness, of vulnerability, of fear. She is strong, powerful, a force of nature and I can do naught but weather her, to endure her whims, and hope that eventually there will be some kind of respite, some form of mercy. She stands above me, impossibly tall through perspective and the mind-altering chemicals that the brain produces, a ziggaraut of wild feminine power, a snarl and smile intertwining on her lips. I can wriggle, try to flex my arms when she pins my wrists down. I can even go savage, snap and bite and roar; hell, she wants that. It makes her laugh, because this is all lead up to a forgone conclusion. She knows I can't resist her will, mentally or physically. She knows I'm at her whim, that she can do whatever she likes, and that I'm terrified because I know that will include a good deal of pain and scariness. And she knows I'm twisted enough that the idea makes me slickly, stiffly, drippingly wet. pant, pant, pant So. A sense of physical and mental power, and the inclination towards using it in a predatory fashion. Yes. WTB Aidan. PST.

aidan -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/11/2008 11:11:46 PM)
Hehe, I'm afraid that particular Quest Item cannot be traded or sold to any vendor. [;)]

Pyrrsefanie -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/11/2008 11:19:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aidan Hehe, I'm afraid that particular Quest Item cannot be traded or sold to any vendor. [;)] Fine then, I'm petitioning a GM, and if that doesn't work, /cast Disenchant. So there!

sjskuared -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 6:46:29 AM)
What I see is love, power and fear mixed together. It is very exciting to be with someone who loves you and is very attracted to you and at the same time you know you are in their power. Love and fear are the two strongest emotions. Being used, being wanted to that degree is exciting. Being able to please your partner and make her happy is a high as is knowing that she has the power to torment you and train you to be what she wants. As a man I don't usually feel like a sex object as women sometimes have been seen in the past. Part of that is exciting to know that you can be used that way. Another part of pleasing her is knowing that she is going to tell you what she wants and make you do it, there is a lot more communication and less privacy. I don't understand what women see in men they dominate. Both roles are against society's expectations or traditions.

ShaktiSama -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 7:50:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aidan She knows I'm at her whim, that she can do whatever she likes, and that I'm terrified because I know that will include a good deal of pain and scariness. And she knows I'm twisted enough that the idea makes me slickly, stiffly, drippingly wet. pant, pant, pant So. A sense of physical and mental power, and the inclination towards using it in a predatory fashion. Yes. heavy rumbling tigress purrrrrrrrr I knew this thread could get awfully delicious with the right participation. Yum. quote: ORIGINAL: sjskuared Love and fear are the two strongest emotions. Being used, being wanted to that degree is exciting. Being able to please your partner and make her happy is a high as is knowing that she has the power to torment you and train you to be what she wants. As a man I don't usually feel like a sex object as women sometimes have been seen in the past. Part of that is exciting to know that you can be used that way. Another part of pleasing her is knowing that she is going to tell you what she wants and make you do it, there is a lot more communication and less privacy. I don't understand what women see in men they dominate. Both roles are against society's expectations or traditions. It may be against society's expectations, but it isn't really against our traditions; one thing I can say from personal experience is that women are pigs. We may not mention it at the dinner table or run into a wall because we're rubber-necking a desirable man at the shopping mall, but we notice male beauty and we objectify you to pieces in the privacy of our wicked thoughts. That's the great thing about men who stand in the spotlight. At the end of the day, I'm not sure that musicians, actors and athletes get so much sex for any reason other than the fact that women get to waive our society's usual eye contact restrictions on the female gaze for loooooong periods of time. The longer a man is on stage, in the arena or on the screen, the longer we get to look over every inch of him, mentally undressing him and admiring the way he moves, etc.. No accident that rock muscians tend to wear tight and revealing clothes, or that gladiators fought half-naked. The women-folk like to be entertained. [:D] Now personally, I'm a genuine voyeur, which is why I take erotic photographs. If I avoid eye contact with a man, or avoid looking at him directly, sometimes it's just to keep control--he's so beautiful to me that it hurts. I've been told that it can be deliciously dirty the way I pick out some pretty but unexpected piece of a man's body to eroticize--his lovely mouth, his thighs, his hands. So to respond to the last sentence--what I see in a man I dominate is that he's a man! And I like men. Men are sexy. The fact that he's a submissive man means that I can look him over, play with him, use him any way I want. What more could a woman want? What I can't understand is why all women aren't dommes! [:D]

bobipanti -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 8:00:58 AM)
I do agree with AllforFun. I too seek a Mistress to serve;I also desire to live as a woman. The thought of living as a woman, serving a Mistress 24/7 both excites and scares me. But once given the opportunity with the right Mistress for me, I believe that I would accept that position. I believe that I would be more satisfied with my life and feel fulfilled serving another.

TermsConditions -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 9:15:31 AM)
aidan is a hard act to follow. Next time aidan has to go last :-) My mistress knows she is the most beautiful and desirous creature in the world; what thoughts could exist that are not of her? What foolishness is that to consider? My mistress is powerful and confident. I am in awe. My words and wants are perverted for her use and employed to bend and bind me to her purpose. She feigns to indulge my need to submit and endure my desire to please. My fantasies and lusts concern her only in that they can be used to disarm and constrain me. My mistress is ravenous for me. I am a morsel to be confronted, confounded, confused, constrained, compelled, controlled and consumed. Each journey's waypoint brings her a different pleasure and draws me closer to my complete destruction. She is an artist. She is cruel and relentless. She is ever in my mind probing and pressing, searching for an image, a memory, a phrase, a secret desire to be used to take my breath in ragged gasps and bend me lower before her and to her. She is brilliant and patiently splinters and dissolves me bit by bit until I lie revealed completely before her. Reduced, spent, exhausted I am made perfect by her. I am no more. Sated, she tenderly and carefully draws me close - a fragile shadow of the proud man that stirred a hunger within her at the beginning. She wraps herself around me so that I can know nothing else. I am filled and refreshed with her. I am safe and at home and hopelessly hers.

Shawn1066 -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 10:52:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AllforFun so in the end....we are adrenaline junkies looking to push the envelope to that ultimate goal....and what happens if we ever get there? I guess thats why Im here. Adrenaline junkies? Speak for yourself, heh. At the end of the day, from my point of view... It's not about adrenaline, or symbolism, or taboo, or anything of the sort. I don't love my Owner because she's powerful, even though it's something I'm infatuated with. I don't love my Owner because she's sadistic, that's merely a pleasurable quality of hers. There are tons of sadists in the world, there are tons of powerful women in the world. What would I be if that was all I saw in her? The rush from subspace is temporary, the warmness in my heart after seeing her smile is eternal. I don't love my Owner for what she does, I love her for who she is. The way she acts around my family, the way she'll talk to small children at her work and make them smile. I love her because she'll go out of her way to make me smile, and she'd do anything to see me happy. We can talk about anything. We can talk about movies, current events, ancient history, philosophy, sex, and even random cartoons from the late 80s/early 90s. I love how she goes out of her way to help people, no matter who they are. In fact, even if she wasn't my Owner, she'd be the best person I know. That's why I love her. On the sexual side of things, I don't find anything terrifying about what we have. Surrendering to her is as natural as breathing. The fact she doesn't force surrender is intoxicating as well. Physically she could very easily take what she wants. She's my superior physically in every way...and yet, she allows me the choice. I give myself to her willingly and happily. God willing, I'll do it every single day for the rest of my natural life. If not...if sex was made impossible tomorrow... I'd still be as loving as devoted as I am today. I'm not one to be led along by a carrot on a string. I look at it this way... We were both fractions of something. We were halves, previously independant of one another. Now that we're together, we're a union. We're both better off because of it. I don't live entirely for myself anymore, I live for us. She doesn't live entirely for herself anymore, she lives for us. Together, we're something that's far greater than what we were seperately. We're also far happier for it. And that's all that really counts. DV's Fox

ShaktiSama -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 11:48:02 AM)
sniffle That's beautiful. What wonderful articulate men we have on this forum...so romantic. Many thanks Fox and Terms for opening those windows.

AllforFun -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 1:37:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Shawn1066 Adrenaline junkies? Speak for yourself, heh. Actually, I was speaking for myself. Unlike you, I dont have an owner and thus have not formed that special loving bond. what brings you and I here are indeed different things, notice how I use "I" and not "we" at the end of my initial post.

Shawn1066 -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 1:39:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AllforFun quote: ORIGINAL: Shawn1066 Adrenaline junkies? Speak for yourself, heh. Actually, I was speaking for myself. Unlike you, I dont not have an owner and thus have not formed that special loving bond. what brings you and I here are indeed different things, notice how I use "I" and not "we" at the end of my initial post. I realize this, which is why I made the "Speak for yourself" lighthearted by added the "heh" Perhaps a ":-p" instead would have done better. No harm was meant, and I apologize if it came off snarky. I do wish you the best of luck in finding an Owner of your own soon. You may very well get what you enjoy. :-) DV's Fox

AllforFun -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 1:51:12 PM)
quote: It may be against society's expectations, but it isn't really against our traditions; one thing I can say from personal experience is that women are pigs. We may not mention it at the dinner table or run into a wall because we're rubber-necking a desirable man at the shopping mall, but we notice male beauty and we objectify you to pieces in the privacy of our wicked thoughts. That's the great thing about men who stand in the spotlight. At the end of the day, I'm not sure that musicians, actors and athletes get so much sex for any reason other than the fact that women get to waive our society's usual eye contact restrictions on the female gaze for loooooong periods of time. The longer a man is on stage, in the arena or on the screen, the longer we get to look over every inch of him, mentally undressing him and admiring the way he moves, etc.. No accident that rock muscians tend to wear tight and revealing clothes, or that gladiators fought half-naked. The women-folk like to be entertained. [:D] Now personally, I'm a genuine voyeur, which is why I take erotic photographs. If I avoid eye contact with a man, or avoid looking at him directly, sometimes it's just to keep control--he's so beautiful to me that it hurts. I've been told that it can be deliciously dirty the way I pick out some pretty but unexpected piece of a man's body to eroticize--his lovely mouth, his thighs, his hands. So to respond to the last sentence--what I see in a man I dominate is that he's a man! And I like men. Men are sexy. The fact that he's a submissive man means that I can look him over, play with him, use him any way I want. What more could a woman want? What I can't understand is why all women aren't dommes! [:D] Oh wow...... I think I just dribbled a bit, lol. And Amen! why arent there MORE Dommes. I agree with aidan 100%. spot on man! And a woman seeing me purely as an object.......AWESOME! PANTS I can see this thread turning into a feeding cycle! lol.

AllforFun -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 1:52:44 PM)
Ok, my bad Shawn. sorrry.......

Shawn1066 -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 1:55:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AllforFun Ok, my bad Shawn. sorrry....... Nah, no need to be sorry. I could have been clearer. DV's Fox

littlesarbonn -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 2:00:27 PM)
I'm a little different than most, and I understand that. I tend to see my place in the eyes of a Mistress who craves control of another who will dedicate his every bit of being to making her happy. For me, it is a sense of fulfilling a missing perspective of belonging to someone who feels she is missing that submissive accomplice in her life. It's a process of completion, in which both of us realize we complete two halves of a lifetime of incomplete circles, so that when we are together, we fit in a sense that each is capable of exploring that sense of dominance/submission that has forever been incomplete. It means that I can pursue my desire to be as deeply submissive as I've always wanted to be, while she has the ability to be as completely dominant as she has always wanted to be. It is the end of a search through endless attempts to achieve the same thing through posers and disbelievers, both of us knowing that one day we would find the other to complement the other's desire.

ElanSubdued -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 5:07:19 PM)
Aidan, I enjoyed your post very much (and everyone else's posts too). There is a word you used that I've not encountered before. By "ziggaraut" do you mean "ziggurat"? I looked it up and this is all I could find. Definition as follows: 1.) A ziggurat was a temple tower of the ancient Mesopotamian valley and Iran, having the form of a terraced pyramid of successively receding stories or levels. Some modern buildings with a stepped, pyramid shape have also been termed ziggurats. 2.) Among the ancient Babylonians and Assyrians, a temple of Sumerian origin in the form of a pyramidal tower, consisting of a number of stories and having about the outside a broad ascent winding round the structure, presenting the appearance of a series of terraces. 3.) 1877, from Assyrian ziqquratu "height, pinnacle," from zaqaru "to be high". Is this what you mean? Very nice adjective-like use of a noun/metaphor if this is the case. If this isn't the word, would you mind letting me know what "ziggaraut" means? Thanks for your help and for adding to my vocabulary and wordsmithing abilities, Elan.

ElanSubdued -> RE: What a sub/slave sees in a Mistress..... (4/12/2008 5:28:37 PM)
Gee. About the whole "what I see in a Domina" topic, this is hard for me to define. Mostly, as vanilla as this sounds, what attracts me is someone who I like and respect as a human being. This is first and foremost. The BDSM is an intrinsically interwoven thread for sure, but my attraction on this level always evolves from vanilla attraction first. In terms of BDSM dynamics and romantic relationships, I feel more effective in the role of executive assistant as opposed to that of leader. It's really that simple. I enjoy helping and pleasing my partner. Oh, and I love romance and being romanced. All too often, I find that vanilla women like to be romanced, but they don't initiate romance and therefore this aspect of the relationship feels one-sided. I love it, for example, when a woman sends me flowers. So the fact that (some) Dominant women initiate is very attractive and endearing to me. I say "some" because not all Dominant women actually do initiate romance. Shawn probably described my thoughts best. I'm not much on predatorial folk and I certainly wouldn't describe my chemistry with Dominant partners as fulfilling a need for adrenaline. If I'm in a relationship with someone and she acts in a predatory way about me, that's rather sweet, but in general, I find either sex acting in a predatorial way somewhat of a turn-off. Confident, engaging, open, passionate, and kind... yes, that's attractive. Predatorial... not so much so. Sorry to everyone for my lack of eloquence today. For some reason, I'm not able to form, fettle, and articulate my thoughts on this subject presently. Elan.

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