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Delvin -> We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 7:01:43 AM)
Neanderthal • Ne-an-der-tal man (noun) Extinct race of humans an extinct subspecies of human beings that populated Europe, northern Africa, and western Asia in the early Stone Age. • Ne-an-der-tal (adjective) 1.relating to Neandertal man 2.offensive term an offensive term used to describe somebody perceived as displaying the lack of intellect, lack of sensitivity, and boorishness traditionally associated with cave dwellers 3.offensive term an offensive term meaning very old-fashioned or conservative Ne-an-der-tal (noun) offensive term an offensive term for somebody who is regarded as crude, primitive, or excessively old-fashioned So I say thank you for calling me this as you may have noticed through my profile, posts and responses here, I am indeed a Neanderthal. {Grabs starshine’s hair and drags her off to his cave} p.s. be sure to always drag them by the hair, so they do not fill up with dirt

ownedjulia -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 7:08:11 AM)
quote: an extinct subspecies of human beings that populated Europe, northern Africa, and western Asia in the early Stone Age. I thought they were an offshot of the same branch rather than a subspecies? Didn't they have a lcak of forebrain development that caused them to not be able to see the world is the same way as the first batch of humans?

imtempting -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 7:27:39 AM)
I dont get it.

JohnWarren -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 7:38:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imtempting I dont get it. I think he may be referring to comments in another notestream. This approach can be witty or just half that.

anthrosub -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 8:09:01 AM)
Ah...an enthusiast! It has not been determined exactly what happened to the Neanderthals (the "h" is silent by the way). Either they were absorbed through inter-species mixing as other homo groups migrated north when the ice age drew to a close...or...they became extinct. anthrosub

happypervert -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 9:00:21 AM)
Here's an interesting explanation for their demise: Economics and the caveman

Lordandmaster -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 9:48:47 AM)
This is exactly right; it's a little premature to say that the Neanderthals became extinct. We may have Neanderthal descendants walking among us right now. The standard theory for years was that so-called "modern humans" outcompeted Neanderthals when they arrived in Europe about 40,000 years ago, but the question is starting to get murkier and murkier. And, yes, the "h" IS silent. The name is German, and it can be spelled Neanderthal or Neandertal. quote: ORIGINAL: anthrosub It has not been determined exactly what happened to the Neanderthals (the "h" is silent by the way). Either they were absorbed through inter-species mixing as other homo groups migrated north when the ice age drew to a close...or...they became extinct.

KatyLied -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 10:11:51 AM)
I still enjoy the entire caveman grabs cavegirl's hair in his fist and pulls her into the cave scenario. So, in review, cavemen = good.

frenchpet -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 10:38:17 AM)
It's a valley in Germany. Kind of funny, the name comes from the greek, in which Neander means "New man" (translation of german "Neumann"). Anyway, it was a different species. Well, I live near the area where the last of them are supposed to have lived, I'd say that maybe they're not extinct after all.[sm=rolleyes.gif]

Lordandmaster -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/9/2005 4:45:20 PM)
Scientific American always comes in handy! By coincidence, there is an article in the current issue about founder mutations. These are mutations in the genetic material of a single individual that are passed on for generations because the recessive gene, when not paired with another recessive gene, confers ADVANTAGES, not disadvantages. The mutation that causes sickle-cell disease is a good example. When paired with another recessive gene, of course, the mutation causes sickle-cell disease. But a carrier who has only one recessive gene has a greater resistance to malaria than a human without the mutation. Anyway, founder mutations are interesting for several reasons, and one of them is that they are useful in tracing the ancient history of populations. One test that was applied had to do with whether early humans, after leaving Africa, interbred with other hominid types. The answer seems to be no. But I wouldn't consider this conclusive evidence. I'm not sure I understand how researchers could eliminate the possibility that modern humans have some Neanderthal DNA if they don't know anything about Neanderthal DNA in the first place.

Prunesquallor -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/13/2005 1:31:39 PM)
<<Didn't they have a lcak of forebrain development that caused them to not be able to see the world is the same way as the first batch of humans?>> Yes, but one thing that the experts seem to keep very quiet about is that the brain of Neanderthal man was considerably larger than ours.

frenchpet -> RE: We are Neanderthals (10/13/2005 1:47:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Prunesquallor <<Didn't they have a lcak of forebrain development that caused them to not be able to see the world is the same way as the first batch of humans?>> Yes, but one thing that the experts seem to keep very quiet about is that the brain of Neanderthal man was considerably larger than ours. Very quiet about ??? I remember I had class about the evolution of the human species in 4th or 5th grade, and what I had to learn included the change compared to the previous (sub)species (like the standing position for homo erectus, tools for whichever (the same ?)), the size, and the size of the brain. And if I remember well, the book said 1500cc for homo sapiens, and 1600(1650?)cc for homo neanderthalensis. The thing is that the intelligence is not directly related to the size of the brain, otherwise I guess sperm whales would have found a way to make tools, have flocks of fish, and invent the internet (their brain is about 9kg). It's the complexity of its structure that matters. Nobel Prize winner Anatole France is reported to have had a 1100cc brain.

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