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JohnWarren -> RE: Would You know what to do (10/10/2005 5:15:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sub4hire quote: The American Red Cross offers training courses at a nominal fee A lot of times they will do groups for free. It's just how you approach them in the first place. A decent CPR class can only take 8 hours out of your day. Both Libby and I are certified in CPR but for around the house we'd use our Samaritan defib. We got it about six months ago and it's hanging on the bathroom wall. It's only about two thousand. That's a thousand less than a cremation.

DesertRat -> RE: Would You know what to do (10/10/2005 7:53:01 PM)
hmmm...yes...AEDs are just the thing. I have one for service use, but might get yelled at if I used it at home. On the other hand, if 911 gets called, well....I'd be the one responding. I hear the best place to have a heart attack is in a casino in Vegas. They reportedly have AEDs stashed all over the place. Kinda like fire extinguishers. Kinda. Bob

subversiveone -> RE: Would You know what to do (10/10/2005 8:02:25 PM)
Funny, i heard the best place was at the hospital. They have these doctors stashed everywhere.... ;) j/k

JohnWarren -> RE: Would You know what to do (10/10/2005 8:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subversiveone Funny, i heard the best place was at the hospital. They have these doctors stashed everywhere.... ;) j/k But there you first have to fill out a full medical history, provide an insurance card and swear you've never voted for socialized medicine... then a brand new nurse will look at you and tell you to be patient.... hell at that point I AM THE PATIENT!!!

DesertRat -> RE: Would You know what to do (10/10/2005 8:11:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren quote: ORIGINAL: subversiveone Funny, i heard the best place was at the hospital. They have these doctors stashed everywhere.... ;) j/k But there you first have to fill out a full medical history, provide an insurance card and swear you've never voted for socialized medicine... then a brand new nurse will look at you and tell you to be patient.... hell at that point I AM THE PATIENT!!! Yeah! And hospitals are full of sick people, whereas casinos are full of...well.....never mind... Bob

OscarHargraves -> RE: Would You know what to do (10/10/2005 9:18:35 PM)
Anybody who is in, or has been in the military should be familiar with CPR and First Aid (now known as First Responder) procedures. I think it's important to keep those credentials current, but first and foremost is that call to 911.

IronBear -> RE: Would You know what to do (10/10/2005 10:24:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RainGod quote: I'm still certified as a paramedic and keep my certificates up to date annually. One of the rules in my home is that everyone living there will have or get a current First aid certificate.. and know how to deal with snake and spider bites as well burns and a myriad of home accidents. Since you've worked in Emergency Response, I have a rather poinant question: How often did you go on a call where BDSM play had been involved? I can see possibly some instances where Breath play might have gotten out of control, but can you, or someone else give Me a hint as to how a Dom could go too far to the point of His submissive actually needing 911? I am having trouble understadning that. I thought the most important part of "play" was knowing your partner and being able to gauge her abilities and limitations....? Am I wrong? Never a single call, but in those days BDSM was pretty much illegal except what the Police did in interogation rooms.... calls to Brothels (more than I remember).. calls to Drive In Movies (One ~ Guy was screwing the Police Super's wife in the front seat of a VW beetle and his ankle got sprained with the swelling wedging it in there and her pelvic boan slipped locking him in her .... ), calls to farm with farmer's cock was caught up the goat's arse when it's pelvic bone slipped (One) But no genuine BDSM calls bugger..

MasterStar -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/3/2005 2:08:37 AM)
U would do as U would do in any other similar situation...call 911 & prepare 2 answer all of their questions truthfully as 2 what had transpired. W/in My Xtended family alone I have 4 persons trained in CPR, 5 former firemen, 2 police officers & a current EMT. These people, regardless of their sexual preferences & proclivities R dedicated 2 saving human (and sometimes animal) lives. Not once have I ever heard 1 of them judge a person during an emergency...but I have heard them question what led 2 the accident or injury. Your needs & vanity Bcome secondary 2 the plaything that trusted U....as do many of Our subs/slaves w/ their very bodies or lives. I may have ruffled some feathers here, but truth is truth.

Oberonrex -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/3/2005 2:51:57 AM)
To answer the original, I would call 911. Check and assess, and pull out kits and proceed as needed. I don't have an AED yet, but it is not a bad idea. This has been a good reminder that I need to follow-up on getting re-certified in CPR...

masteroffire -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/3/2005 4:27:01 PM)
Well, since I'm a part time EMT, maybe I don't fit the category of people you are asking. Depending on the situation, for most people, I would recommend calling 911 if it's that severe.

LordGntlFntsy -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/4/2005 9:14:52 PM)
In answer to the first question, I would like to know of any medical conditions that a person has such as narcolepsy or epilepsy or a history of fainting. If they do have that kind of history then position them to appropriately care for them while calling 911 or having someone else call it. If diabetic get a blood sugar test and then administer the correction. Since the call was made I would ask that all sessions stop until such a time as the crisis is alleviated and whatever medical/emergency personal (police) have left the scene.

Wolfie648 -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/5/2005 3:11:54 AM)
quote: or someone else give Me a hint as to how a Dom could go too far to the point of His submissive actually needing 911? Shit happens. Random people win the (a) lottery every day in some country or another. Think of it as winning the lottery in reverse. D (owner of j)

Domasaurus -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/5/2005 9:32:44 PM)
quote: quote: or someone else give Me a hint as to how a Dom could go too far to the point of His submissive actually needing 911? There are a number of activities including breathplay and shock activities that can trigger heart issues. It can also be dumb timing - more than a few people drop dead during sex.

JohnWarren -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/5/2005 11:37:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RainGod can you, or someone else give Me a hint as to how a Dom could go too far to the point of His submissive actually needing 911? We had one case where a male submissive, after waxing the kitchen floor, walked across it. Result one broken ankle. At a club in Boston, a female submissive, still a bit floaty from subspace, took a flight of stairs two at a time.... well actually 2.3 at a time. Broken wrist.

IronBear -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/5/2005 11:44:05 PM)
Just to keep things in perspective, we dont use 911 in Australia (Yep. I saw a guy trying to dial it on a visit to call the wallopers (Police)). If any of you are visiting Aussie and need Police, Ambulance or Fire Brigade you ring 000

Kasia -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/6/2005 12:49:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear Just to keep things in perspective, we dont use 911 in Australia (Yep. I saw a guy trying to dial it on a visit to call the wallopers (Police)). If any of you are visiting Aussie and need Police, Ambulance or Fire Brigade you ring 000 We dont use 911 in Europe either. I had to pass quite hard exams on first aid if I wanted to have my driving licence in Croatia - they dont let you drive around and possibly run over someone without teaching you how to help effectively if that happens. But its not only the knowledge. One can have all that in theory but actually panic and be unable to do anything when it occurs in real. I didnt have to help people yet, but I had plenty of situations with animals. If I am alone in the mountains and my dear and valuable goat gets bitten by a snake I have to act quickly and save her. Or when they had baies and something went wrong. Didnt alway have time to wait for the vet so I had to help myself. And its pretty nasty job.

IronBear -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/6/2005 1:21:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kasia quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear Just to keep things in perspective, we dont use 911 in Australia (Yep. I saw a guy trying to dial it on a visit to call the wallopers (Police)). If any of you are visiting Aussie and need Police, Ambulance or Fire Brigade you ring 000 We dont use 911 in Europe either. I had to pass quite hard exams on first aid if I wanted to have my driving licence in Croatia - they dont let you drive around and possibly run over someone without teaching you how to help effectively if that happens. But its not only the knowledge. One can have all that in theory but actually panic and be unable to do anything when it occurs in real. I didnt have to help people yet, but I had plenty of situations with animals. If I am alone in the mountains and my dear and valuable goat gets bitten by a snake I have to act quickly and save her. Or when they had baies and something went wrong. Didnt alway have time to wait for the vet so I had to help myself. And its pretty nasty job. I understand that in the Scandianavian countries that you are not only required to have a current First Aid Certificate to get your drivers licence, but to carry an approved first aid Kit in the car too. This is something that I and numerous people have been trying to have enforced here as well. one of the problems is that we dont have a National Licence and each state has it's own requirements so its rather like pushing shit up hill in a barbed wire sled to get states to agree on anything unless: 1). the Federal Government holds a gun to their head like witholding Federal Funds (Which they did to have firearms banned in or reduced). 2). The states believe they will make money and not turn their financial corporate buddies against them.... basically its like getting over head walk ways over a bad section of road near schools. Stats show that there needs to be something like 33 MV accidebnts and 30 deaths before they will do anything. (Not sure of recent figures but y'all get my drift).

Kasia -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/6/2005 2:04:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear I understand that in the Scandianavian countries that you are not only required to have a current First Aid Certificate to get your drivers licence, but to carry an approved first aid Kit in the car too. I know only about Germany and my homeland Croatia, but they are very harsh on those matters. If your first aid kit is out of date (just recently I asked my hubby what the hell can go wrong with bandages if they get older than 2 years) you can pay nice money if you get caught. I bought a new car three months ago and I found pretty little niche behind back seats designed especially for the first aid kit. I always say that the car may be characterized as a deadly weapon and you certainly have to know how to use it and how to manage any damage you might make with it. Makes me sad to see there are goverments that dont consider that issue being of such importance.

candystripper -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/6/2005 8:43:37 AM)
quote: I understand that in the Scandianavian countries that you are not only required to have a current First Aid Certificate to get your drivers licence, but to carry an approved first aid Kit in the car too. This is something that I and numerous people have been trying to have enforced here as well. one of the problems is that we dont have a National Licence and each state has it's own requirements so its rather like pushing shit up hill in a barbed wire sled to get states to agree on anything unless: 1). the Federal Government holds a gun to their head like witholding Federal Funds (Which they did to have firearms banned in or reduced). 2). The states believe they will make money and not turn their financial corporate buddies against them.... basically its like getting over head walk ways over a bad section of road near schools. Stats show that there needs to be something like 33 MV accidebnts and 30 deaths before they will do anything. (Not sure of recent figures but y'all get my drift). IronBear What an interesting idea. The case law in most states holds that, absent a relationship such as parent-child, no one has a duty to rescue. You can stand idly by while someone dies but for your assistance, and no state that i am aware of can prosecute you for any criminal act/ommision. People may remember the college kid who saw a sexual attack on a little kid -- which i believe ended in her death -- begin; there was video and no doubt what he saw -- and he strolled out of the bathroom and told no one. People were enraged that he was not prosecuted, as he could have saved the child, but the District Attorney could find no law which would support a prosecution. By now, he has probably changed his name legally and is going on with his life as a college student. Many states have volunteer/good samaritan laws to protect those who do attempt a rescue (or provide free services) from litigation. sigh i believe strongly some aspects of our legal system need reform. Just FYI; it was the pro bono cases (unpaid) in which people demanded my time the most; lied to me the most; kept returning with new legal problems (yes, thanks for the divorce, now what can ya do about my suspended license), etc. i suppose every professonal has a similar experience; when people receive legal work for free, some undervalue the lawyer's time and energy, and overvalue theirs. candystripper

candystripper -> RE: Would You know what to do (11/6/2005 8:59:12 AM)
quote: Hi, i have to agree with DomDevelopment, it's a good idea for everyone to have basic first aid and CPR knowledge. Another good idea that was given to me, was that if anyone was being tied up in a scene to always make safecalls and let someone else know that you are playing, even if you are playing with a partner you have known for years. The reason is that if the Dom collapses while the sub is tied up the sub could be stuck and unable to get help. If someone knows that you are playing help will come a lot sooner. cheers mira ** edited to add .. oops i just realised this was asked in the "Ask a Master" section, i'm not a Master so my apologies to anyone who is offended :) This is the premise of a horror novel by Stephen King..."Gerald's Game". A truely scarey book i read before i ever heard of D/s. Americans my age may also remember the circumstances of Nelson Rockefeller's death; died while making love to his mistress; his family tried and failed to cover it up...IMO a fitting end for the ignoble man who sent troops into Attica during the riot and caused the death of many correctional officers and prisioners alike. Kinda the "Ruby Ridge" of the '70's. candystripper BTW..i would also like to know if posting in this Section is somehow offensive since i am a submissive?

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