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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 4:25:33 PM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

It is a euphemism for putting someone before yourself. 


And see, I tend to take things literally, so when people say "he owns my soul" I don't see euphemism.  But I can see your point.  It's nothing I ever considered before.

I don't even think people own their own souls, let alone have the ability to own someone else's.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 4:35:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

I dont know about anyone else but that sounds like fru fru land of the unicorns and pixie's crap to me (no offence ment really to the Unicorns and pixies) I dont think you can give up your soul, I think no matter how devoted you are how submissive or uber slave you are your soul belongs to you and to G-d it isnt something that can be taken or given. I think the entire "I give you my soul" thing is over romantasized unrealistic thing, maybe I'm jaded though I dont really think so, just realistic.

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I totally agree with you here that it is unrealistic to give your soul away. I also agree with Dynomyar that it is total devotion to my Master but my soul is mine it makes me who I am and that is why my Master loves me for who I am.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 4:40:38 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Can't give your submission either- only express it.

Dangit you guys always get the good stuff before me now :(

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 4:41:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

So, if the soul is the most precious thing a sub or slave gives up to another person, what does that actually mean in practicality ?

If it helps, please feel free to give examples of how you would explain my question.



Due to my religious leanings, I would never give up my soul nor do I even believe it possible. If I could and were willing, Valyraen would never accept it.

That said, I might use the phrase "he owns me mind and soul". It's romantic and pretty but not to be taken literally.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 5:12:32 PM   
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You'll still find it listed somewhere between Siren and Werewolf.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 5:16:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
My former self was convinced that God owns our souls and no one else can.  I'm not sure I think that anymore. 

I do.  In my personal belief system, God owns human souls and no other human being can supercede Him.  However, I agree with everything else you said, Ownedgirlie, as far as being willing to stick it out through everything even when others would advise leaving.  I wouldn't say Master "owns my soul."  I'd say He has my total and utter devotion up to the point He would attempt to supercede my Creator.  Master's fine with that and He agrees with my sentiments.  He's not a megalomaniac who would wish to try to..............luci

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 6:52:43 PM   
patwi


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Status: offline 		Dammit...I've already sold my soul to Satan for a pack of camels and 20 bucks for gas money, back in my poor college days. Wonder if I can make a return.....

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 6:54:12 PM   
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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 6:55:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Or refinance?

An excellent idea. I do need some dental work done, maybe a soul is worth a root canal.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 7:08:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: patwi

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Or refinance?

An excellent idea. I do need some dental work done, maybe a soul is worth a root canal.



*chuckles* any one who has has major dental work done recently *knows* it is almost worth it.. holy Hera.. I put at least one of his kids through a Good school's first couple semesters this year.

Gwyn,
Nope.. keeping her soul. Thank Gods her work has Benis

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 7:12:37 PM   
patwi


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Status: offline 		Being that I have neither dental or health insurance...i really do think I'd sell my soul for it.

*waits for the arrival of a snazzily clad cloven hoofed fellow*

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 8:32:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
My former self was convinced that God owns our souls and no one else can.  I'm not sure I think that anymore. 

I do.  In my personal belief system, God owns human souls and no other human being can supercede Him.  However, I agree with everything else you said, Ownedgirlie, as far as being willing to stick it out through everything even when others would advise leaving.  I wouldn't say Master "owns my soul."  I'd say He has my total and utter devotion up to the point He would attempt to supercede my Creator.  Master's fine with that and He agrees with my sentiments.  He's not a megalomaniac who would wish to try to..............luci


Hi there luci :)

To clarify, it is my belief in God that has changed; not in whether or not he owns our souls.  I believe in something, I'm just not sure if I define "God" as I used to anymore. 

Regarding your stick it out comment...it really isn't a choice for me anymore these days.  So he's stuck with me till he gives me the boot. 

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/16/2008 11:45:28 PM   
tigerseye


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Status: offline 		i believe that the owning of my soul is between me and the big man with the fluffy beard in the clouds *smiles*
honestly though, i believe my soul is what makes me who i am, and even though i love my Master with everything i have my soul isn't something i can give away.  i do believe that souls can be attracted to one another and that is that type of attraction that is so strong and so undeniable it's difficult to explain.  but that's just me

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/17/2008 12:58:18 AM   
bruisedpetals


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Status: offline 		it certainly feels like it's owned sometimes! Especially when I've disappointed him .. *gulp*! 

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/17/2008 4:15:52 AM   
Dnomyar


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Status: offline 		Insurance! patwi how about a string and a doorknob. Im sure there is a sadist on here that would pull them for you. Mumble why do people on here always want you to think for them.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/17/2008 7:28:52 AM   
slaveluci


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
To clarify, it is my belief in God that has changed; not in whether or not he owns our souls.  I believe in something, I'm just not sure if I define "God" as I used to anymore

Oh, ok.  I wasn't clear.  I certainly understand that.  I think most of us go through some changes in our thinking over time regardless of just what our spiritual beliefs are.
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Regarding your stick it out comment...it really isn't a choice for me anymore these days.  So he's stuck with me till he gives me the boot. 

Yeah, I'm sure that's gonna happen real soon...............luci

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/17/2008 9:36:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can definitely agree with the total devotion part. When it comes to the soul, who's to say. I do know he owns me completely, according to what works for us. That's what is so great about this lifestyle - we choose what works for ourselves.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/17/2008 9:51:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think you can have someones devotion and obedience, you cannot however "give" your soul to someone. I don't think it is within our power to give it away or for another to accept it. When I hear people say this I always wonder where the directions are for giving away your soul and accepting one. Yes you can have very deep feelings for someone so much that you really wished you could give them your soul but frankly, I don't think its within the human power to actually do so.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/17/2008 9:52:58 AM   
Wheldrake


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Status: offline 		I'm not sure whether I have a soul, let alone how I would go about giving it to someone else. Even if the word soul is just a metaphor for devotion, I don't think devotion can necessarily be "given" or even deliberately created. It's something that has to develop organically over time, whether the devotion is directed towards a person, an ideal, or another entity entirely. What can certainly be given are promises of loyalty and obedience.

On the other hand, I'm quite happy to concede that my Mistress owns both my right sole and my left sole. As far as I know, however, she's not particularly into bastinado, so this is of little practical importance.

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RE: The last thing to give up, the soul - 4/17/2008 9:58:54 AM   
OmegaG


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I've been thinking about this for the past couple of days and here are my thoughts:

My thought is that while you can't physically give away your "soul" (meaning the undefined part of you not covered by everything else), that part of a person is generally the last part to be opened to another person completely.  So while I don't give my "soul" to someone, I can get to a point where I allow full access to what is going on in my soul, I give him full view-- I guess full transparency, I tell him what's going on in the soul, I give him the insigts connected with the soul, I basically open the window to my soul completly to only those that I feel I can trust with that knowledge.

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