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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 2:25:31 PM

WalterRego

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ORIGINAL: MladyHathor

I did not say I was turned off by it as a kink and I did NOT refer to it as a kink, the latent posters have taken that tact---I referred to it as a person promoting themselves as something so very demeaning--to be thought and treated as something lower than dirt----and are there males who REALLY want to be thought of that way---I never addressed it as a kink.

Okay, but even so, as you know probably better than I do, there are male subs who write in other contexts to Dommes saying that they are worthless, lower than dirt - the whole litany, without the pig part. What's the difference in this that seems to squick you or grab your attention?

You say that you never addressed it as a kink, only the later posters took that tack. But isn't it really just a kink? I mean, if someone really thought of themselves as that worthless and low....would they want to live? Would they want to tell anyone? They'd probably hide or commit suicide. So I think it is just a kink. They get off on being treated that way. The pig is just their particular manifestation of it. Maybe they grew up on a farm. Maybe their mother always said to them, look at this room, it's a pigsty!

I'll avoid the temptation of saying its just good clean fun, but when you come down to it, why isn't it just a kink? And for that matter one actually "cleaner" than scat or diapers.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 2:28:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Title === I am a Male Pig

Reply===

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob

Sorry I really could not help myself after I saw this thread I have been unable to get this Damn song outta my head.

Steel

And not George Harrison's:

Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in....

In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking.

?????

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 2:38:09 PM

MladyHathor

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quote:

Okay, but even so, as you know probably better than I do, there are male subs who write in other contexts to Dommes saying that they are worthless, lower than dirt - the whole litany, without the pig part. What's the difference in this that seems to squick you or grab your attention?

I think the fact that men feel they need to do this at all--be it pig, whatever, just like a female saying she is a s or a c---I don't get that---yeah ok, maybe you are right WalterRego--maybe it is a kink and I should just hush--I say like has been said---you aren't lower than dirt until I tell you that you are.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 5:07:43 PM

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Was he perhaps offering bacon or ham at the same time?

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 5:20:10 PM

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Femdom porn portrays guys as lowly worms. They don't realize that porn is made by men for men, not to appeal to women. They're just copying what they see.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 7:56:46 PM

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squee?

And I know just what to do with them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNLOBD78Dd0

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 8:16:34 PM

SirMIkeSD

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From a gay male Dom point of view, it can work for me for a play date

Mike

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 9:57:46 PM

HCWT1

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Hello Ladyhathor,Sometime i just wonder where these persons heads really are?.As a line to any Dom/domme,i don't think so....

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/16/2008 11:40:56 PM

PrincessDonna

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Could it be that he(or she) simply wants you to know that it's how they prefer to be treated???

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 1:24:27 AM

Owner4SexSlave

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Oh Hell, I'm a big Male Pig and this is coming from a male Dom.

The question is what kind of pig out of the many are we honestly talking about here?

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 3:27:34 AM

lvlychaos

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Title === I am a Male Pig

Reply===

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob

Sorry I really could not help myself after I saw this thread I have been unable to get this Damn song outta my head.

Steel

Huh and here I always thought it was Koo Koo Ka Choo...

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 7:27:20 AM

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Pig as jerk?
Pig as in messy?
Pig as in animal?

I did have a friend that did a humiliation scene with a female submissive where she was pet pig on leash. It was quite cool.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 7:40:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Pig as jerk?
Pig as in messy?
Pig as in animal?

I did have a friend that did a humiliation scene with a female submissive where she was pet pig on leash. It was quite cool.

I know of several gay men that consider themseleves pig's and not in that way. A pig is one that is piggy about the play they enjoy (more, more, more), they go for it with gusto. It's not a bad thing.

Mike

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 7:45:45 AM

BoiJen

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Why does Pig have to be a bad thing...I always liked the breakfast example...

The chicken makes the eggs...the chicken is involved.

The pig makes the bacon...the pig is committed.

I'm the pig.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 7:47:06 AM

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One of my brothers was called cowhorse. I could never figure that one out. Nothing to do with his looks. He was a Elvis double all the way.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 7:49:00 AM

OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: SirMIkeSD

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Pig as jerk?
Pig as in messy?
Pig as in animal?

I did have a friend that did a humiliation scene with a female submissive where she was pet pig on leash. It was quite cool.

I know of several gay men that consider themseleves pig's and not in that way. A pig is one that is piggy about the play they enjoy (more, more, more), they go for it with gusto. It's not a bad thing.

Mike

So, that adds another connotation. I didn't mean that Pig necessarily meant bad. I was trying to figure out what role of "Pig" the writer to the OP was assuming.

Hell, I once received one that said, "Hi, I'm a can of corn."

< Message edited by OsideGirl -- 4/17/2008 7:51:19 AM >

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 9:14:48 AM

WalterRego

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Creamed corn, no doubt.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 9:18:25 AM

littlesarbonn

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Personally, I think there are a lot of people who don't have a strong hold on what is their fantasy and what should be in their profile that explains more about them, so they stick with their fantasy and then wonder why they can't find anyone.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 3:25:33 PM

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i can't imagine people using the line, but i'd imagine it would work just fine and dandy considering how often i run into the profiles of "mistresses" that state "men are worthless pigs/worms/dogs/whatever", it gets pretty bad. most often it seems these are the "tribute mistresses", i suppose it's part of the gimmick, "you disgusting pig, you're not worth my time so make up for it satiating my materialistic crap demands". it's like the difference between the tribute mistresses and a pro is a pro lets some people pay them, but these tributee types can just simply be bought.

now that's not a knock to those who might ask for a tribute simply as a sign of good faith/will, and not to start any fire about tributes or pro's at all, the point is... you've been wondering about guys thinking women would go for that, and i've been wondering how women have been thinking men would go for that.

to each their own i guess. when i find someone looking for a pig i know i must be on the wrong farm, but in your case i guess it's more odd that a pig is trying to sell itself to a vegetarian.

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RE: I am a male pig - 4/17/2008 3:40:08 PM

TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: sirguym

... Some of them are male, so I guess they're actually a boar.

Only if they are destined to be used as a breeder. Castrated male pigs are referred to as hogs.

Does that mean a male sub who likes to "pig play" and who wants to be kept chaste should be called a hog?

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