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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 4/27/2008 5:38:55 AM   
caitlyn


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No doubt this all comes down to history and experience. After twice destroying our own continent with extreme views, we are not in a hurry to do it a thrid time by contenancing extremist views as legitimately mainstream.


Care to place a bet on who will destroy their continent first?  

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 4/28/2008 7:01:28 AM   
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No doubt this all comes down to history and experience. After twice destroying our own continent with extreme views, we are not in a hurry to do it a thrid time by contenancing extremist views as legitimately mainstream.


Care to place a bet on who will destroy their continent first?  


Yours will definitely be destroyed before Europe is destroyed again. That will happen during your inevitable war with China. Your military is already planning for it.

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 4/28/2008 10:18:08 AM   
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Yours will definitely be destroyed before Europe is destroyed again. That will happen during your inevitable war with China. Your military is already planning for it.


You come at this from the position of being "enlightened" or perhaps even just better people ... blah, blah, blah ... different day, same old story. You have this inner feeling that you somehow "know" Americans, based on a brother that lives in California and a few vacations you took, including conversations in a bar.
 
I stake my position on a lot of very competitive nations, living in very close proximity ... and a long history of answering interior European problems with warfare. I don't claim to know Europeans, even though I have a relative that lives there, and have vacationed there ... I'm just looking at history, under the absolute reality that people really don't change all that much.

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 4/28/2008 11:47:50 AM   
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Yours will definitely be destroyed before Europe is destroyed again. That will happen during your inevitable war with China. Your military is already planning for it.


You come at this from the position of being "enlightened" or perhaps even just better people ... blah, blah, blah ... different day, same old story. You have this inner feeling that you somehow "know" Americans, based on a brother that lives in California and a few vacations you took, including conversations in a bar.
 
I stake my position on a lot of very competitive nations, living in very close proximity ... and a long history of answering interior European problems with warfare. I don't claim to know Europeans, even though I have a relative that lives there, and have vacationed there ... I'm just looking at history, under the absolute reality that people really don't change all that much.


Most European wars were not between nations so much as wars between ruling families that have long since been replaced, the twentieth century being something of an exception where the wars were about political ideologies, all which have no credibility left. The past is not the future and have many people of the older generation pointed out, if there had been as much personal travel and as much exchange of infomation by ordinary people at the beginning of the 20th century as now, the wars wouldn't have been allowed to happen. As for people not changing much, I think that is true and most people given the truth and it is hard to hide the truth in Europe now with so many different national TV and newpapers at hand, it isn't long before a politician is known to be lying(Britain being something of an exception). Most people in Europe knew Bush and Blair were lying to his teeth which was why just about everyone was hostile to the Iraqi war.

I don't base my opinion on knowing Americans (though experience does inform me somewhat) but on the fact that America is an ideological state and as such, needs an ideological enemy. There is always some bogeyman being cooked up in the US, China is just the latest and potentially the most dangerous.

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 4/30/2008 5:54:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		wow.  I read all of these posts and was most amazed to discover that I am rich.  Someone said that Bush gave tax cuts to the rich and the middle class had to eat it.  Since I am by no means rich, I have to say "Quit lying."  I am neither giving back my tax cuts nor am I giving back the economic stimulus check.  I bet you won't either.  I am using mine to buy food for my kid and clothed for him to wear to a public school that is not teaching him liberal garbage.  I am also glad to be able to say that they are not forcing conservative Christian crap down his throat either. 
Here in a small backwoods "redneck" community, we have more people willing to accept us for who we are than we did in a large "educated" liberal college town that is supposed to be so superior.  Give me these rednecks any day.

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 4/30/2008 6:37:43 AM   
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wow.  I read all of these posts and was most amazed to discover that I am rich.  Someone said that Bush gave tax cuts to the rich and the middle class had to eat it.  Since I am by no means rich, I have to say "Quit lying."  I am neither giving back my tax cuts nor am I giving back the economic stimulus check.  I bet you won't either.  I am using mine to buy food for my kid and clothed for him to wear to a public school that is not teaching him liberal garbage.  I am also glad to be able to say that they are not forcing conservative Christian crap down his throat either. 
Here in a small backwoods "redneck" community, we have more people willing to accept us for who we are than we did in a large "educated" liberal college town that is supposed to be so superior.  Give me these rednecks any day.


Irishknight, I second that!
I grew up in Massachusetts.

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 4/30/2008 8:09:33 AM   
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No doubt this all comes down to history and experience. After twice destroying our own continent with extreme views, we are not in a hurry to do it a thrid time by contenancing extremist views as legitimately mainstream.


Care to place a bet on who will destroy their continent first?


No thanks. The Republican Party gives the Americans a strong advantage.

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 5/8/2008 2:54:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Care to place a bet on who will destroy their continent first?  


How about America destroying Europe because it will always want to fight it's wars on other peoples soil.........!

In the US you may refer to it as exceptionalism  but just as Americans find the view points and core values of other nationalities strange, the acceptable norms held my many Americans are considered by others to be extreme.



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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 5/8/2008 6:20:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		The rich don't have tax cuts they have taxe shelters and a tax advisor. What most don't know is that the rich pay up to 80% of the nations taxes. If you don't belive me look at it on irs.gov



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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

wow.  I read all of these posts and was most amazed to discover that I am rich.  Someone said that Bush gave tax cuts to the rich and the middle class had to eat it.  Since I am by no means rich, I have to say "Quit lying."  I am neither giving back my tax cuts nor am I giving back the economic stimulus check.  I bet you won't either.  I am using mine to buy food for my kid and clothed for him to wear to a public school that is not teaching him liberal garbage.  I am also glad to be able to say that they are not forcing conservative Christian crap down his throat either. 
Here in a small backwoods "redneck" community, we have more people willing to accept us for who we are than we did in a large "educated" liberal college town that is supposed to be so superior.  Give me these rednecks any day.

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RE: self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', sister... - 5/8/2008 6:42:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tav cuts, tax shelters.  However you say it, I got money back and I'm not rich.  The "Bush only gave tax cuts to the rich" propoganda is still shown to be false. 
As for the numbers, I've looked it all up before and don't feel sad for how much some people pay.  Those that can write out a check for more than I earn in a year without even batting an eye can afford to pay more taxes.  It is an unfairly balanced system but until they help us change it to a fair one, they are stuck with that.

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