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stella41b -> RE: sub from outside the US - best way to enter? (4/22/2008 8:31:33 AM)
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ORIGINAL: TeachMeTonight
I am with John on this one. Have him come for a visit, if you want schedule it for maximum a Visa will allow. You may want to arrange for an alternate place for him to stay, like renting a room from a friend of yours etc. This will give you all time to evaluate how serious you all are and if you have it what it takes to make it work. The return ticket is key to this process, plus not travelling with things that make it seem like he would not be returning.
Presuming that you all finish this period with the desire to go further, then start the process that would allow him to immigrate. Determine if his working is important to your household.
Finally, my husband was just approached by someone from overseas who was quickly offering to be a house slave. When he said he would consider it when she could buy a ticket and get here to meet she disappeared. I highly agree with the premise that they should buy their own ticket. If you want to share the cost, reimburse them upon arrival, don't send money into the abyss so to speak it could easily be a scam.
I'm sorry but I found this posting to be quite amusing.. Really..
daddysliloneds said it, BadOne pointed it out, you can add Dnomyar to this.. and I've posted it and I'm writing here from a night spent in Altanta City Detention Center, hours spent in Atlanta Airport and another cell at the ICE Dept in Atlanta plus since then a failed visa application..
It ain't that easy.. trust me.. Hours before my flight back to London I watched and saw how US Customs and Border Protection officials denied entry to both Singapore Airlines and British Airways flight staff who were fully uniformed and working on flights that had landed at Atlanta.
"don't send money into the abyss so to speak it could easily be a scam". I'm sorry, this had me in hysterics. You think the cost of the flight is the most important here? Sure, he can cover the flight, and the $131 fee for the visa application, not to mention calls made to the Consulate at $2 a minute where you get asked lots of questions over the phone and the call can last anything up to half an hour but if you are immigrating someone into the US then be prepared to have expenses too. Major expenses such as legal fees. There'sm no guarantees whatsoever. None.
JohnWarren gave some good advice, apply for the visa.. you need a B1/B2 non-speculative visa, unless you want him to run the risk on the Visa Waiver Program., I would also suggest a scheduled flight where the dates can be changed on the ticket..
'if you want to schedule it for maximum a visa will allow' - I'm sorry, he won't get in. Not this way. The US authorities presume any foreigner to be intending to settle there illegally. This is how it is. On the border they will expect him to be able to prove that he can fully support himself for the entire length of the visa, and they will expect him to be able to produce the banknotes, bank statements and credit cards on demand. They will also want to know why he needs to spend so long visiting the US.
'You may want to arrange for an alternate place for him to stay, like renting a room from a friend of yours etc' - again, if this comes out at the airport he won't get in. He's YOUR guest,. YOU are responsible, not anyone else. Any consular official or border guard will pick up on this and when they make checks they make stringent checks.
'Presuming that you all finish this period with the desire to go further, then start the process that would allow him to immigrate. Determine if his working is important to your household.' Oh right, and how? You think it's just as easy as filling out a form and starting a process?
Reality check. These are the only ways into the United States on an immigrant visa.
1. Marriage - as the spouse of a US citizen.
2. by way of a foreign employer who requires someone in the States subject to conditions
3. by way of an American employer who needs a qualified employee who they cannot find in the States
4. as an entrepreneur or business person - but trust me, you need a lot of money and a lot of luck
5 . as a priority worker - an artist, scientist, sportsperson, etc someone with 'exceptional ability' who has 'consistently been at the top of their chosen field'.
6. as a charity worker or minister of religion
I'm still one of the few people who can emigrate into the States independently but that's because I'm recognized for my artistic work and have documentary evidence not only that I have been at the top of my field but also that I work in my own area of theatre and have developed my own theory. I can still emigrate into the States independently but if I choose to do so I'm coming via Canada and I enter having my own income and as the founder and trustee of a registered charity.
This isn't like relocating from another state, we're talking here international relocation. You really are playing for the high stakes and you don't really have those guarantees. This isn't a case of book a flight, come over and we'll discuss it. This is more a case of a combined struggle against the authorities and laying siege to what has become Fortress America. This is a long process which is time-consuming, expensive, problematic, where you can't play by the rules (the rules keep changing, trust me) and you can just so easily end up with nothing.
I still get offers from Dommes and Couples in the States wanting me to be their house slave, realistically expecting me to fly out to somewhere like Arizona or (more recently) Missouri for an unpaid maid position. What worries me is that they're usually quite old and they genuinely believe there's a chance I'll agree and pay for a trans-Atlantic flight (which booked in Europe incidentally is usually far more expensive than in North America, even twice as much) and all expenses just to clean their house.
Yeah right. Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
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