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BlackPhx -> RE: Daddy/Daughter on 60 minutes (4/29/2008 7:26:21 AM)
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Actually I have not missed your point and we do agree on accountability to a point.
I have absolutely no problem with the sexual mores of anyone to a point. That point being the harm of another person in the practise of it without their consent (this does include children issued from it or involved in it actively or even passively).
Frankly until these people told family and friends, no one was aware of their familial relationship, and they could have well gone on with their lives un-interupted and beneath the eyes of the law and others until their deaths if they hadn't. However they made a choice to make their relationship known, knowing it could have severe consequences and then turn around and have a psychologist say oh it is a syndrome, they can't help themselves. Poppycock (I rather use something else but that says it, don't want to exhibit Foul Mouth Syndrom). They made an active choice to act on feelings knowing it was illegal to do so and then exposed those actions, had a child, etc and now look to excduse it. Well how many others are going to jump on that bandwagon? I wasn't in her life as a child, she grew up, I can be there now and marry her or vice versa and Oh...it's a syndrome and we can't help it, we are not subject to the same laws everyone else is.
I do object to people not accepting responsibility for what they do, seeking psychological justification or someone/thing to blame other than their own choices. That was and still is my point. That responsibility for what you do. You as adults make a choice, it may be because you find that person attractive, it may be because you warped in the womb or were brought up one way or another, or because you just kink that way, but ultimately it is your CHOICE what you do about it. You make an active choice to do something or not, unlike those who do have a mental illness and are not in control of their actions. Stop trying to make excuses for it, trying to name it a syndrome or use one as a defense, accept responsibility for the choices you make and your actions. That is part and parcel of being an Adult. Where there is legitimate fear for life and limb or legetimate mental illness that is one thing, when it is simply a matter of I chose to do this, and now want to glorify or excuse it..Sorry Charlie..
No Violent Girl Syndrome applies to the Florida 8 (two were male), they wanted to do this post it to YouTube and get their 15 minutes of fame. They don't think there is any consequence for what they have done and in fact were joking that they were going to miss Cheerleading Practise that afternoon and probably the Beach that weekend. Having never had a consequence for their past bad actions, they made a choice to do something they knew was wrong and are now surprised that there is a consequence, one that may well destroy their lives.
These people made it a point to bring other people into their bedroom via their need to share the particulars of their relationship. They not only brought friends, family and neighbors in, they brought in the Government who was bound to hear about it, and then the News Cameras, bringing the REST of the World into it as well, while trying to excuse it with a Syndrome. The government didn't peek in their windows and say..hmmm we want to know everything about your relationship to make sure it is legal until THEY opened the door for them to do so by talking.
The Florida 8 would probably been arrested for assault and gone through the Juvenile Courts getting probation, a slap on the wrist and community service or max incarceration until they were 21, instead of being set to be tried as Adults, if they had not video'd the entire thing, and literally put their confession on electronic media to upload to YouTube making it a) public knowledge b) nearly impossible for a Lawyer to defend and c) shown just how callous and knowledgable they were about what they did. Now they would like to blame anyone and anything other than their own actions and choice about being involved and posting it.
I love for the Government to stay out of my bedroom...I have a lot of things that are done there that are no ones business but Masters and Mine and anyone directly involved. But then again I also don't take my kink to Walmart and involve others in the practise of it. I don't dance down the aisles wearing leather straps for clothing and a collar and leash while he plunges a dildo in and out of me while we shop. Not for children to see, not dfor stock clerks to see, not for anyone to see save he and me, OR if we go to a club where such actions are encouraged, thee. It doesn't matter that I am a bit of an exhibitionist, time and place for everything if I don't want to involve the law. I make the CHOICE to ignore that and I INVITE the Government and the Law into my bedroom. Stupidity not Syndrome
poenkitten
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