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Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 2:16:06 AM

GlamorousSlave

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I love my Master, but we have only officially been n this bdsm realatoinshp if you wlll about 4 months or so, i am now his full tme slave, but was punshed for not repeatng that i give my soul to him, was i wrong to do this to hm?
My soul is mine, and i feel i am not ready for that level?
I give him my body, mind, heart, but right now soul seems alot.
P.S Can one slave love another slave? I feel i do, and so does this slave.
It conflicts with Master and me, is that wrong?
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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 2:31:21 AM

RCdc

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You cannot give your soul.
Here is a very recent thread you can read if you wish. The last thing to give up, your soul.

Seriously - he expects that in just 4 months?
Get him to look up Dom frenzy. And yourself? This you should both have agreed before you became his. Punishing you for something not agreed to prior to you becoming his slave sucks.
Lack of communication and compatability will risk your relationship failing before it has even begun.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 2:36:00 AM

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Clashes in spiritual beliefs and relationship dynamics should be sorted out BEFORE being collared and such. Sounds like you've still got some negotiating to do...or need to find a better match.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 2:42:34 AM

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Does he have a jar to keep your soul in?

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 3:08:11 AM

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I just saw your other question - you might want to ask it seperately to get a clearer perspective but to respond my answer would be yes, a slave can love or want to be in a relationship with another slave - and particularly if you are poly or in a open relationship it can work really well.

My questions would be, are you with this other man simply because he is 'dominant' and yet love a slave and deny it because they are a slave. Are you poly? Would your Master accept this other slave? Your relationships sound a little mixed up and at 4months with this other man - you sound like you ran before you walked, particularly if you have feelings for another. You sound ultimately confused - just be safe hey.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 3:15:38 AM

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Committment is a two-way street. Dom/mes lead so him first...!

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 3:16:15 AM

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so many labels. ITS ALL WORDS. If they mean that much to you tell him to suck your holy spirit and hit the high way.

OOOOOOOOOOOO BABY DO YOU KNOW WHAT THATS WORTH, OOOOOOOOOOO HEAVENNNN IS A PLACE ON EARTH!

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 5:01:17 AM

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What does he expect you to do, rip it out and stick it in a box and hand it over? Derisive laughter here.

So you don't feel safe enough after just a very short time to commit more heavily. Annd how does he decide to make you feel safe? By punishing you for your feelings which teaches you that you aren't with a person safe enough to talk honestly with concerning your feelings.

Next time, pick someone with some small modicum of intelligence. A tight butt just isn't enough.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 5:36:10 AM

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I have to agree with what has already been said. Every Dom has their expectations, but after four months? I'm one to fall easy, and have learned the hard way that when someone expects so much from you in such a short amount of time then maybe you should sit back and reevaluate the relationship.

Just a thought :)

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 6:56:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Punishing you for something not agreed to prior to you becoming his slave sucks.

the.dark.

Interesting question...does when a person agree to become a slave do they give over ALL rights..if so then any agreements prior to becoming a slave would not hold much weight. In this case this self described "full tme slave", was punshed for not following the Masters instructions ie: not repeatng that i give my soul to him. The punishment was for not following an order. What the order is is not important for when one becomes a slave they serve.

I will not comment if a soul can be given or even if a soul exists other to say if it does exist and can be given it would be cool to keep it it in a jar

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 7:24:34 AM

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Even when you agree to learn to be a slave, that does not mean you automatically give everything up. I seem to think that the OP is still in the learning process, and is not a full slave as of yet. She needs to learn way more about the position she will be in, and the relationship. At 4 months, he is essentially asking for wedding vows. Not with the ceremony, but those sounded an aweful like the vows I took when I got married the first time.
Personally, whether I believe its that big a deal to argue a soul and giving it to someone... or if it is semantics to signify a relationship, you were not uncomfortable so much with what was said but by the level of commitment it stood for. You might need to speak to him about slowing down and giving you the time to be ready for that commitment. Just becasue we are in BDSM and have titles for ourselves early on doesnt make us any faster or slower to move into serious relationships.
I think that is a more important point to discuss with him rather than a puishment over not repeating something... you didnt object to the words, you could have repeated likea minor bird to make him happy, but you didnt want to mislead him into thinking you believed them.
AS to your other question, people fall in love without reading one anothers titles first. It happens. It might not be "fair" to your master if he wishes you to be his and his alone, but it isnt fair to you or the one you love if you give them up for a Master you do not have those feelings for becasue you think it is the right thing to do either. Do what is best for you, if you and another slave are in love, and your urrent Master does not approve, I would say the love is more important than the ownership , and finding a Owner who wouldnt mind a save couple isnt likely to be all that difficult.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 7:33:24 AM

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IMO, a soul cannot be given. Over a period of time in a long-term, loving relationship, a soul can become the 'property' of the other (for lack of a better term), but it cannot be given on short acquaintance, nor can it be taken by force or authority.

It sounds to me as if the OP has jumped into something she was not ready for. If you are in a relationship with someone but have feelings for someone else, something is askew. I would recommend stepping back and re-examining the dynamics of the relationship. Did you get in over your head too quickly?

Just because you made the choice to be a slave - if you made that choice with little knowledge of what that really means, and if you are uncomfortable in that relationship (in a life-ruining way), and especially if your heart (which you say you've already given?) is yearning for someone else - doesn't mean you have to spend the rest of your life regretting the choice.

pip, hope I made sense

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 7:40:15 AM

RCdc

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Which is why one should not enter such an agreement lightly.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 7:43:46 AM

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He had better slow down. You do not seem to feel save with him - if so then find a master that you do feel save with.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 7:54:44 AM

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So many have said what I would have....

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
Seriously - he expects that in just 4 months?

I bet if you told him that you wanted to get married, he'd go "We've only known each other four months!" See the correlation?

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Clashes in spiritual beliefs and relationship dynamics should be sorted out BEFORE being collared and such.

Yup, amazing how many little shocks negotiation PRIOR to being collared gets rid of.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
And how does he decide to make you feel safe? By punishing you for your feelings which teaches you that you aren't with a person safe enough to talk honestly with concerning your feelings.

For me this is a BIG issue. Emotions are natural. You should never be punished for the way you feel. You can be punished for how you react to those feelings, but not for having them.

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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Even when you agree to learn to be a slave, that does not mean you automatically give everything up.

I agree. Some people have this perception that slaves give up their core values and should do as their told. If she had repeated that she was giving him her soul just to obey....she'd still be lying. So, obey even if it's a lie? Obey even if you think it's something that's wrong? I don't think so. If you want thoughtless obedience, buy a blow up doll.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 7:56:25 AM

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Too much romantic fantasy---

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 8:42:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Which is why one should not enter such an agreement lightly.

the.dark.

I fully agree....but if that was the case that only people who did not jump into a collar / relationship lightly remained on this site then we would lose 90% of the posters...

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 12:50:11 PM

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He wants your soul after only 4 months????? How exactly are you supposed to do this????? I have been with my Master over 2 years he has my heart, my body My Mind but my soul that is something i am going to keep. It does not mean i love him any less i love him with my whole heart and soul.

As for one slave loving another nothing wrong with that unless like you said it cause a conflict with you and your Master.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 3:41:18 PM

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Dude....you're 18. People who marry at 18 - 20 usually divorce, people who date at 18 - 20 usually don't marry, and people who think a certain way or certain thing at 18 - 20 end up thinking differently. You're growing, and this is a learning experience for you. If you're with someone who "wants you to give up your soul", you're with someone who is too wrapped up in fantasy to see reality. Try to keep stuff in perspective. If pretending to "give up your soul" would be fun for you to try, then try it, but honestly....you're 18.

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RE: Give up my soul? - 4/23/2008 4:26:31 PM

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My sould is mine, some day I may love someone with my whole heart and soul but I will never give it away. Really what would I be without my soul? I think 4 months is way too soon for anyone to have feelings that strong, it's not even long enough to trust someone with your life, which is what you do with a true dom. My advice, humble as it is, would be for you to step back from the situation, take a long hard look at him and yourself and what expectations the two of you have in this relationship. I know that at your age I didn't have the slightest idea what I wanted out of life, I'm 42 now and just finally taking steps to live this life style. Sorry I can't help you with your other question. I do however wish you the best of luck in your situation and do hope you find happiness, because life without it isn't much of a life.

P.S. rotf @ the cut butt comment

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