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All in the family

Love is love, wherever it's found

24% (7)

ewwwwwww, squick squick squick

17% (5)

It's fine as long as no procreating is involved

17% (5)

It's wrong, no matter what

27% (8)

Oh my, I don't know

13% (4)

Total Votes : 29

(last vote on : 8/29/2008 4:13:25 PM)
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Level -> All in the family (4/23/2008 3:28:19 AM)
Saw this on a thread in the Alternative Lifestyles section here http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1805744 Here's the video link: http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au/v.htm?f=39&g=97F19D4F-8DC3-47D1-B34A-20610985B8BB&p=aunews_au60minutes&t=m163&mediaid=126111 Any thoughts?

rubberpet -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 4:07:59 AM)
I'm not one that will knock or ridicule another person's life or relationship. My reaction is basically whatever makes them happy, I don't care. It's their life and they should live it however they want with no government interference. Besides, I don't see a difference between this and homosexuality. I guess it is more socially acceptable to be in love and sexual with the same gender now because so many people are openly gay now, including celebrities. Some of us out here may view their life and relationship as sick, gross, and twisted...they could look at our D/s relationships and think the very same thing about us. Who or what is to say what is right or wrong, moral or immoral? A book written by man? Laws written by men and women? That's a slippery slope to me... I don't care if a person is straight, gay, bi-, dom, sub, switch, CD, TV, TS, a drag king, a drag queen, a freakin' hermaphrodite, or some pregnant dude/dudette on Oprah...we all share this floating rock in space, so let's accept people for the quality of their character. Maybe some guy in the 60's by the name of King was on to something with his "Dream".

eyesopened -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 4:21:10 AM)
i firmly believe that everyone needs nonsexual relationships not just sexual ones. i cherish my relationship with my parents and brothers, uncles, aunts and cousins as part of my extended family and people who love me as i am, who can share, advise, comfort and care about me without any sexual overtones. It would make me very sad indeed to think that every person with a penis sees me as fuck-fodder, that i could never have a deep love and affection without the possibility of sex with that person. i can have all the lovers i want but i can only have one Dad. i like it like that.

Lashra -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 5:13:06 AM)
I'm against it, yes I'm making a judgement as it is my right to do. In the first couple the Father/Daughter it makes me wonder what will happen when their UM gets older. What if Father develops romantic feelings for her? It could happen.... In the second one, I have mixed feelings. Having an Uncle and Aunt who carried on and procreated (the UM was terribly deformed and mentally challenged)I would have to say we have these incest laws in place for scientific reasons. Yes there is a chance that the child could be fine, but its a bigger chance that it won't. Yes they don't see their relationships as "hurting" anybody, however any UM's involved will bare the stigma of their parents. Especially now that its been put out in the media and is public. I don't think that was a wise move on their part. ~Lashra

camille65 -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 5:22:47 AM)
I don't see this as a typical situation, they did not know each other until meeting as adults so in my mind the familial bond was not there.On reproducing?No. No no no. They had one with severe enough birth defects that it died, I think it is cruel and selfish to breed when there is a risk like that. If they had lived in the same house with a familial relationship I might be squicked but in this case, no squickage from me just a bit of sadness. I keep wondering if their deep feelings for each other have a basis in the genetic father/child part instead of sexual love.

hopelessfool -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 8:50:45 AM)
The scientific reasons that you speak of as was mentioned on the other thread are just as common as if two people who had never met had the same markers for this defect or that and didnt know it and had children. Saying you cant breed because it will cause birth defects, if you say it to one you have to say it to all, and then the birth rate will drop from what it is now to between 10 and 15%.(not sure on the numbers) Before we knew about genetic testing, the only time someone wondered about a baby is when it was phyiscally deformed. There was no way to check to see if these two people having a child will lead to a heart defect. And even now theres really no way to be 100% sure. Neither my blood brother or his girlfriend had markers for defects, they both and got tested for them, yet their child still was born with 2 holes in her heart. Saying its genetically wrong, incest on a one or 2 generational level doesnt bring that much risk, its when its 6 or 7 years down the line. And As for your post on him getting feelings for the little girl after several years Lashra. He didnt know his child. The mother kicked him out of that childs life when she was one. She didnt see him again for another 30 years. And when she met him wasnt fully sure he was her father. Its like saying you going and finding someone in the world that you care for and find out after he sees the family photos, " Oh I have an aunt that kind of looks like that her name is such and such" and you going, I have an aunt named such and such too and finding out O_O oh crap your related. Does it change the fact that you love this person? If you were pregnate before you knew would you terminate the child just because you found out? Just because blood says this person means something to you when they wernt in your life at all make it more? -just my two cents for the day...

ResidentSadist -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 10:32:16 AM)
Good business is where you find it. ~ Robocop movie I wouldn’t marry my mom or daughter but, those were unusual examples in the video. I say it’s none of our business and for them, love is love, wherever it's found.

purepleasure -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 10:46:46 AM)
I'm not knocking it, but it's not for me.

DesFIP -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 11:17:55 AM)
The problem with an interfamily relationship is that the complex emotional involvements already present make it impossible for the younger, more vulnerable person to say no. In other words, there is no informed consent because the younger one is being coerced by a threat, explicit or implied, that there will no longer be any sort of relationship, no love, if they refuse. Now if you show me a case where an adoptive child at 30 meets a man and forms a relationship, and ten years later decides to search out her birth parents to discover that her partner was her biological father, that's different. But the existence of the relationship and the complexity of emotions pre-existing is something totally other.

Level -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 3:18:16 PM)
I appreciate all the answers; this is a tough and strange situation, it seems.

kittinSol -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 3:25:52 PM)
Incest is such a deeply ingrained taboo that it's difficult for me to consider the issue without a knee-jerk squick. My initial reaction is judgemental: how can they? I can understand the 'genetic attraction' thing and how two people may feel attracted to one another, but acting on it is another matter... it's even more troubling that the father and daughter had a child together: what will be this person's view of the world as they grow up?

Level -> RE: All in the family (4/23/2008 4:03:05 PM)
I feel the same, kittin, especially about the child. It is beyond irresponsible to me for them do to so. But, if they want to be with one another, that's their choice. Just leave off the kid-making.

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