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Lordandmaster -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/13/2005 9:40:40 PM)

Since I'm a big devotee of doggy-style, I'd have to turn this on its head and say behind a good submissive is a good dominant.



FLButtSlut -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/13/2005 9:49:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedKev

Your probably right but I am such a sad person that I don't belong to any vanilla groups with the exception of work and family. And maybe it is my hope that we who are suppose to be accepting (Ok I've finished laughing now) do not need to play politics like that. A sub/slave or a Dom/me are the same people if they are with someone or not. If they are good they don't suddenly become bad just because they split with someone. I tend to keep out of arguements when people split and I never take sides, I just say you are both adults and can sort it out yourselves. Maybe I am just being unrealisitic.

Oh Fastlane I'll send you that recipe for the chili paste we talked about
Remember to apply liberally >;)


The sub/slave, Dom/me, husband/wife, boyfriend/girfriend, etc. are all the same person they were before. It is sad that more are not like you (and myself since I tend towards the same attitude as you) and maintain their own judgment of the individuals without taking "sides". I don't think you are "unrealistic" although we are perhaps both a bit "idealistic" in expecting all people to be able to have and carry out independent thoughts and actions that don't necessary follow the "group".



ladyg1941 -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/14/2005 4:09:43 AM)


hello Sir I am a submissive new to this site but waether I have a master or not i agree with you that I am a submissive regardless of having a master or not however i need to grow and growth is not achieved unless i find a good understanding master



ladyg1941 -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/14/2005 4:41:52 AM)


Ameen to that one me dear... [:)]



KatyLied -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/14/2005 5:13:05 AM)

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I'd have to turn this on its head and say behind a good submissive is a good dominant.


I like to think that way. I want my Dom to mold me into a better sub. Not just a better sub in general, but the best sub for him.



wipmebeetme100 -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/14/2005 4:05:49 PM)

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Since I'm a big devotee of doggy-style, I'd have to turn this on its head and say behind a good submissive is a good dominant.



Doggy style...and on my head. You know you might just have something there. Anyway it gets my vote.



fastlane -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/14/2005 4:10:21 PM)


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Doggy style...and on my head. You know you might just have something there. Anyway it gets my vote.
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from the back..doggy style...then, the head? hmmm, also good...then the ear, so you can hear me cumming.[:D]



Wolfie648 -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/14/2005 6:40:46 PM)

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Do you believe there is good submissive behind every good Dominant?

A good submissive, makes me a better Dom and I have the utmost respect for that.

Now, that cliche about "there is good woman behind every man?"



Do I believe there is....

No. Maybe in some cases but not for every one.

To me learning something new about anything (including lifestyle issues/techniques) and then applying it to the lifestyle (if possible/relavent) makes me a better dom.

I believe the cliche is "There is a good woman behind every sucessful man."

D (owner of j)




TheChastiser -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/16/2005 3:19:53 PM)

a good submissive? do you mean good as in behaviour or good as in skills, or perhaps a mixture of both?

i agree with you, if, by good you mean a willingness to learn, to serve, to be what i want her to be.

Mike



blazingpornstar -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/19/2005 7:19:16 AM)

Without submission of someone you are a Master of none other then yourself. Masters are only as good as the submissive they train. So said by Master Wicked



BlueDevil -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/19/2005 7:26:23 AM)

From an episode of West Wing:

"A leader with no followers is just a guy taking a walk"

There you go.

You can be a dominant without a submissive. Is Master something you can call yourself?



SirSix72 -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (10/22/2005 4:14:04 PM)

I have to agree with others that have posted here.....If you havent yet Mastered your surroundings and emotions how can a sub/slave make you any better.......they arent to be placed beside me theya re at my feet pleasing to the eye as well as the touch........they make me look no better or worse they are what they are property............how I look depends on the way I keep them.....would I not want a shiny sports car to show off and give it my best in order to help it attain its full potential........my property dosent come before me either............nor do I place it upon a pedstal not wanting others to share the beauty that I have created.......

Master Six



Jacques1000 -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (11/2/2005 8:46:45 PM)

Agreed, Ying and Yang.



KatyLied -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (11/3/2005 3:38:46 AM)

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Yin and Yang


and doggy style. Don't forget doggy style.

[;)]



candystripper -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (11/3/2005 4:46:19 AM)

If there was a good submissive behind ever good Dom, no single Doms would exst; and my email tells me there are plenty. Not necessarily "good" for me, but at least claiming to be single.

i have Dom and Master friends who have been searching..in some cases for years ...and whom i hold in the highest regard. Their natural dominance has not only enhanced our friendship, it has taught me much as well. They are great Men and not at all lacking in dominance due to Their single state.

The necessity of expressing one's inner sense of self is a bit easier for Doms than submissives, i think. A Dom can carry Himself -- at work, with family, in public -- with the natural leadership and dominance He truely posseses. A submissive on her own cannot afford to give up behaving assertively as she must attend to her own affairs. And some -- perhaps most -- are adverse to public play. Being flogged by some strange Man does not appeal to me.

candustripper



LordODiscipline -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (11/3/2005 5:30:24 AM)

I believe:
1. That, in an ideal world, a partner should enhance their counterpart's life.
2. That is not always the case
3. That the words "true" and "real" (except when used for a fact based comparrison of on-line vs. real life):
a. Are utilized as an negative and exclusionary egalitarianism and codifications to demean others means and manners
b. Are used as a means for individuals to attempt to lend themselves more credance (especially where it does not exist)
c. Are generally used by the more effite (gentile and/or romantic and/or cyber based) peoples as a reflection of their desired relational values which are instilled from idealistic and (often) non-reality biased affectations (posted op the web and in some publications) that have no rationality or applicability towards day-to-day life.
d. Is often a form of escapism where these (mentioned) ideals have never been placed in real world scenarios or utilized for any period of time by the purveyors.

Of course, this is simply my opinion based on the way I mentally cringe whenever I see them used.

~J



Webmaster60 -> RE: True Masters/Doms? (11/3/2005 8:17:01 AM)

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Do you believe there is good submissive behind every good Dominant?
Sometimes, in my opinion, the submissives are looked upon as lesser, from what I hear and read here.


To the question.. or what I perceive you to be asking.. The answer is "there certainly SHOULD be" but is not a requirement. I do not consider myself "Dom", I identify with Master. Why is this important? Because to me, a "Master" is infected with the burning need to be IN ownership of a girl. Without that girl, does it make him less a Master? No, but it does make him "without purpose".

Is a slave lesser? Hell no. Different, absolutely. A slave is property (don't throw daggers, I didn't say women, I said slaves), her life purpose is to serve her Master and be pleasing to him. That makes her a MOST valuable thing! Certainly not "lesser". Actually.. and this is to the next quote:

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Slaves are actually superior to Masters/Mistress'
denimknight


No.. not even close.. But again, neither of us are better or worse. We are DIFFERENT. Each having their place and responsibility set. Its a DAMNED hard job to be a slave.. They are the STRONGEST of creatures.. Then again, being a Master is (if you're doing it right) is no walk in the park either. Its not easy accepting and being responsible for the mental, physical, emotional, spiritual and educational development of a girl.

In order to say one is above or below the other you have to compare. And one can only compare those things that are similar. Is a boat better than a car? ::shrugs::






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