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Aneirin -> A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 3:37:37 AM)

I wear the Renn gothy type pirate / poet shirts on a regular basis, which amounts to most of the time when I go out. I just love the style and feel of the things, but am now on the look out for one of these shirts in black silk (preferably brushed silk), but am having trouble trying to find a supplier as most that are available are cotton, linen and synthetic.

So, I ask of you lot here, anyone any ideas, know if they can be got, or do I have to get a bolt of silk and get someone to make it or make it myself (yes, I have considered this, looks simple enough) ?



MmeGigs -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 4:06:39 AM)

I suspect that making one or having one made will be your best option.  If you don't have some experience with making clothes find someone to make it for you.  Sewing clothes isn't diffuclt, but it does take some practice and skill to get things to come out well.  A poet/pirate shirt is a rather advanced project and silk can be difficult to work with.   




sirsholly -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 4:15:42 AM)

if you do try it yourself consider some of the man-made fabrics that look/feel like silk. As Mmegigs said, silk is very difficult to work with.



Aneirin -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 5:41:19 AM)

Thankyou for your advice, it does look like getting them made is my best option and have since found out that my ideal fabric is charmeuse, but woven with cotton to make it less lustrous and easier to work with. The cotton also encourages wicking which is ideal for summer, well at least when it is warmer.



sub4hire -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 6:17:36 AM)

Something like..http://www.cloakmaker.com/poet.html



LaTigresse -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 7:05:41 AM)

I am channeling my grandmothers.

First you will want to get one of your favourite old shirts and disassemble it, at the seams of course, without actually tearing any of the fabric. Iron each piece of the fabric flat. Now you have a pattern for your new shirt.

Then you get your new fabric, wash it to preshrink it. Iron it. Lay the old shirt pieces out, keeping in mind the grain of the fabric. Also, if it is a silk or silk blend weave, you are going to want to make the new pieces 1/2 inch bigger all the way around than the old shirt because silk and silk type fabrics require a french seam to keep the fabric from unraveling. When you have the old shirt pieces places as you want them, pin them to the new fabric, cut out. Sew together, don't forget the french seams, and voila'.....a new silk shirt just like your favourite old one!

Sickening that I know this stuff....



Aneirin -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 7:11:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am channeling my grandmothers.

First you will want to get one of your favourite old shirts and disassemble it, at the seams of course, without actually tearing any of the fabric. Iron each piece of the fabric flat. Now you have a pattern for your new shirt.

Then you get your new fabric, wash it to preshrink it. Iron it. Lay the old shirt pieces out, keeping in mind the grain of the fabric. Also, if it is a silk or silk blend weave, you are going to want to make the new pieces 1/2 inch bigger all the way around than the old shirt because silk and silk type fabrics require a french seam to keep the fabric from unraveling. When you have the old shirt pieces places as you want them, pin them to the new fabric, cut out. Sew together, don't forget the french seams, and voila'.....a new silk shirt just like your favourite old one!

Sickening that I know this stuff....


That Latigresse is a very good idea, I got a ropey one I could take apart and use.Hey then maybe put it back together. I got access to a sewing machine, though a tadge heavy duty, one designed for sewing leather and other heavy stuff,(found it dumped, and fixed it)



Alumbrado -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 7:12:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am channeling my grandmothers.

First you will want to get one of your favourite old shirts and disassemble it, at the seams of course, without actually tearing any of the fabric. Iron each piece of the fabric flat. Now you have a pattern for your new shirt.

Then you get your new fabric, wash it to preshrink it. Iron it. Lay the old shirt pieces out, keeping in mind the grain of the fabric. Also, if it is a silk or silk blend weave, you are going to want to make the new pieces 1/2 inch bigger all the way around than the old shirt because silk and silk type fabrics require a french seam to keep the fabric from unraveling. When you have the old shirt pieces places as you want them, pin them to the new fabric, cut out. Sew together, don't forget the french seams, and voila'.....a new silk shirt just like your favourite old one!

Sickening that I know this stuff....


Or grandmere could have busted loose with a few bucks and....

http://www.smoke-fire.com/moirandalls-patterns-1.asp



LaTigresse -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 7:26:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am channeling my grandmothers.

First you will want to get one of your favourite old shirts and disassemble it, at the seams of course, without actually tearing any of the fabric. Iron each piece of the fabric flat. Now you have a pattern for your new shirt.

Then you get your new fabric, wash it to preshrink it. Iron it. Lay the old shirt pieces out, keeping in mind the grain of the fabric. Also, if it is a silk or silk blend weave, you are going to want to make the new pieces 1/2 inch bigger all the way around than the old shirt because silk and silk type fabrics require a french seam to keep the fabric from unraveling. When you have the old shirt pieces places as you want them, pin them to the new fabric, cut out. Sew together, don't forget the french seams, and voila'.....a new silk shirt just like your favourite old one!

Sickening that I know this stuff....


That Latigresse is a very good idea, I got a ropey one I could take apart and use.Hey then maybe put it back together. I got access to a sewing machine, though a tadge heavy duty, one designed for sewing leather and other heavy stuff,(found it dumped, and fixed it)



Another thing I just thought of......you will probably need a special feeder foot and needle for such a fine fabric or it will mark it up as it goes through the  machine. Your local sewing machine, fabic shop will probably be able to help you as long as you have the make and model of your machine.



sirsholly -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 9:18:51 AM)

what LaT said. If you use a needle designed for leather you will ruin the fabric. When you buy the fabric ask for help with the proper needles/thread for the fabric.
And one moe thought...fabric stores have patterns for Halloween costumes and you might just find a pattern for what you are looking for...



ThinkingKitten -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 10:42:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

And one moe thought...fabric stores have patterns for Halloween costumes and you might just find a pattern for what you are looking for...



I made the Simplicity pattern 3758 (view A) for a friend in a black linen blend. Its a great style and was actually ridiculously easy to make. I'm not sure I'd want to tackle silk with it - an experienced seamstress would probably be your best bet - you can supply the pattern and the fabric.



Vendaval -> RE: A difficult shirt to find (4/26/2008 1:49:21 PM)

I highly recommend checking with a costume person (local theatre troupe) or tailor in your local area who has experience working with silk and the right type of sewing equipment.  Besides, having a garment made to your specifications makes for the best results.  If you like their work, you can have several made in slightly different styles, colors, etc. or start expanding your wardrobe options in other ways.



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