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pahunkboy -> $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 6:49:28 AM)
http://www.marketwatch.com/ + oil refinery srtike, and warning shots fired near Iran. get out your bike.

Level -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 7:04:43 AM)
I want to be pulled in a rickshaw. [X(]

pahunkboy -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 7:07:53 AM)
Hard to believe I get a few surprised faces when I say I want to use my bike, moved any errands I could closer. Yet- people switching to peanut butter and jelly. One grocery chain profit down 32%. hmm. IMO the spike in energy costs are here for the long haul. it is not a fad. this will render gas guzzler cars worthless.

Lynnxz -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 7:08:42 AM)
AHH! No, bad!! Damnit... Now i have to learn how to ride that fricking motorcycle without dropping it all over the place

christine1 -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 7:10:07 AM)
wonder what this will do to the price of bicycles....then they'll put into bill a sweating tax cause all those riders will be doing something horrible to the environment, you know producing humidity or some such thing.

angelikaJ -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 7:14:22 AM)
Someone said something to me recently that gave me a different perspective... we complain about the price of a gallon of gas and yet, many of us have a near daily Starbucks habit where we happily plunk down $3.50 (or more ) for our beverage du jour...which is how many ounces? The sale of gas guzzlers has not declined... .

petdave -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 8:13:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: christine1 wonder what this will do to the price of bicycles....then they'll put into bill a sweating tax cause all those riders will be doing something horrible to the environment, you know producing humidity or some such thing. Ack, i'd be ruined! [:(] They had a severe drought in Georgia this year and asked everyone to conserve water... they did, so now the water utility is asking for a "conservation tax" to make up for the loss of revenue... The consumer can't win for losing. Cheer up, though... if gas is $7/gallon, milk will also be $7/gallon, a loaf of bread will be $5... and you could be making as much as 20% more than you do now! That's what happens when the .gov addresses an economic crisis by printing more dough.

popeye1250 -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 9:37:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Hard to believe I get a few surprised faces when I say I want to use my bike, moved any errands I could closer. Yet- people switching to peanut butter and jelly. One grocery chain profit down 32%. hmm. IMO the spike in energy costs are here for the long haul. it is not a fad. this will render gas guzzler cars worthless. PaHunk, I doubt it, the economy will crash long before $7 per gallon gasoline. I bet it crashes before we hit $4 a gallon. I was out last night and it was eerily quiet for a sat night. If people aren't out then they're not spending money are they? George Herbert Hoover Bush needs to step in and do something but of course he won't as he's bought and paid for. All the govt. has to do is ration gasoline and then you'll hear from the oil companies; "whoa, whoa! There's plenty of gasoline! You don't have to ration it!"

pahunkboy -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 9:52:12 AM)
I have to wonder just how many HAVE cut back. Any recommendations for a bike pump -one that works.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 12:06:41 PM)
I don't think most are able to see the repercussions of high fuel prices. It's not just the squeeze that is put on individuals; whole communities that are based on tourism are going to be going under. What earthly reason would anyone go to LV for except to be a tourist? Orlando? Branson, MO? The Highlands of NC? The wine country of Napa & Sonoma? Look at the big convention cities. Atlanta. Chicago. San Diego. Most of Hawaii is dependent upon tourism. Much of Alaska. Watch for business travel to decline, and with it, declines in hotel occupancy, rental car fleet utilixation rates, average cover and gross sales for restaurants. And all those people spend their money on clothes, and dining out, and cable TV, and so on. This depression is going to make the 30s look like a non-event. The Bush regime has completely fucked this country. Enjoy your rebates.

BoiJen -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 12:18:28 PM)
News flash...given the extraordinary push for fuel alternatives the price of gas will start to go down by the late fall. There will the traditional spike this summer...we'll $4/gal in gas and the economy will survive...barely. As much as we're all feeling the crunch it's not as bad as we like to compare it to. The rules of supply and demand. The supply is the same around the world...the balance of the supply is not. As the growth of gasoline alternatives grows and the consumtion of gasoline alternatives grows the demand for gasoline itself will deminsh...which measn the price will go down. Most states east of the Mississippi will be adding 15% ethonal (sp) into their gasoline by this time next year. And currently in IN there's research into the "oragnic" production of ethonal. (Through organisms that consume natural waste and piss ethonal.) an E85 converter on a vehichle costs around $800. The average consumer recoups the cost within a year of purchase. As opposed to the almost 10 year recoup of a hybrid. NEWS FLASH: America has figured out we need new energy sources and fast. And we're working on fixing the problem. boiJen

cyberdude611 -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 1:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster I don't think most are able to see the repercussions of high fuel prices. It's not just the squeeze that is put on individuals; whole communities that are based on tourism are going to be going under. What earthly reason would anyone go to LV for except to be a tourist? Orlando? Branson, MO? The Highlands of NC? The wine country of Napa & Sonoma? Look at the big convention cities. Atlanta. Chicago. San Diego. Most of Hawaii is dependent upon tourism. Much of Alaska. Watch for business travel to decline, and with it, declines in hotel occupancy, rental car fleet utilixation rates, average cover and gross sales for restaurants. And all those people spend their money on clothes, and dining out, and cable TV, and so on. This depression is going to make the 30s look like a non-event. The Bush regime has completely fucked this country. Enjoy your rebates. Bush didn't help, but every President going back to Jimmy Carter shares blame. When free trade agreements started getting signed in the 1990s....things really took a downturn. Look at the statistics. Mexico and China are the ones who sucked the wealth right out of this country's middle class thanks to agreements like NAFTA.

popeye1250 -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 3:00:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster I don't think most are able to see the repercussions of high fuel prices. It's not just the squeeze that is put on individuals; whole communities that are based on tourism are going to be going under. What earthly reason would anyone go to LV for except to be a tourist? Orlando? Branson, MO? The Highlands of NC? The wine country of Napa & Sonoma? Look at the big convention cities. Atlanta. Chicago. San Diego. Most of Hawaii is dependent upon tourism. Much of Alaska. Watch for business travel to decline, and with it, declines in hotel occupancy, rental car fleet utilixation rates, average cover and gross sales for restaurants. And all those people spend their money on clothes, and dining out, and cable TV, and so on. This depression is going to make the 30s look like a non-event. The Bush regime has completely fucked this country. Enjoy your rebates. Bush didn't help, but every President going back to Jimmy Carter shares blame. When free trade agreements started getting signed in the 1990s....things really took a downturn. Look at the statistics. Mexico and China are the ones who sucked the wealth right out of this country's middle class thanks to agreements like NAFTA. Cyber, that's correct, and the American People want out of these agreements that were made by big business. And that IDIOT Bush was on the News friday saying this is no time to get out of Nafta! Oh, and of course he fell back on the old saw, "the consumer wants low prices." How the fuck does he know what the "consumer" wants? Consumers want good paying jobs!

Griswold -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 7:25:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ Someone said something to me recently that gave me a different perspective... we complain about the price of a gallon of gas and yet, many of us have a near daily Starbucks habit where we happily plunk down $3.50 (or more ) for our beverage du jour...which is how many ounces? The sale of gas guzzlers has not declined... . Actually, it has...by over 27% in the last 6 months. Thank goodness....we're starting to live according to a global (oil) pricing structure. In 3 years we'll show those pricks what we can do...in the meantime, China and others will increase their demands on the global oil market by a factor of 2...which means.... $7.00 a gallon in 4 years.

JerryFrankster -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 8:35:28 PM)
$7.00 a gallon? Bring it on. [:)]

MzMia -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/27/2008 8:41:42 PM)
Actually I was thinking the price of bicycles will probably be going up soon.

Maya2001 -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/28/2008 5:38:28 AM)
Most other countries are paying considerably more for gas than the US and have been for years In Canada many places are already over $5.00 a US gallon, I just filled up 2 vehicles today having to pay $1.20 a liter which converts to $4.54 US gal, Where my dad's club cottage is at in Elk Lake, Ontario they are reporting the gas price for today at $1.349 a liter = $5.11 in BC highest reported price is $1.429 = $5.41 there are no reported prices listed on gasbuddy for the territories here but I expect there the prices are over $6 using Alaska as a comparison Taking a look at gasbuddy.com the US highest mainland prices are still better than most of canada's lowest prices for gas. US is still far below the global price structure. here is prices from 2005 europe has soared like crazy this year as well ... they are likely paying $8 a gallon in UK, Amsterdam, belgium etc http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/ Here is an article for 2006 in the UK where they are looking at paying $6.88 US for gas then http://www.autoblog.com/tag/petrol+price/ Now to really make things fun ...when I went on vacation to Florida 30 years ago the price of gas in the southern US was 37 cents a gallon , My wages if I had been still doing similiar work then as now did not increase anywhere near the same pace so one way or another we do adjust and climatize to the increase in prices and it does not mean we necessarily use less as a result, we may for the short term as a knee jerk reaction but we go back to using it again and then add more creative ways to use for example gas powered devices to make our lives simpler or for recreation eg boats, all terrian vehicles, snow mobiles, jet skis, gas powered push or riding mowers, snow blowers, lawntrimmers, hedge trimmers, gas powered pressure washers , take airplanes which go through phenomenal amounts of fuel, so despite gas prices increasing faster than wages over the long term we are consuming more on average. We in NA have been spoiled with lower than global prices and we have become wasteful of it. Other problem most of Canada and the US do not have the population densities to support mass transit, leaving home and work/shopping not linked by a transit system which forces many of us to use cars inorder to get from point A to B with distances often too great for even bicycle travel.

mastervalentine -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/28/2008 5:43:50 AM)
And yet another remarkably relevant quote from Thomas Jefferson... "Walking is the best possible exercise. Habituate yourself to walk very fast. "

azropedntied -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/28/2008 10:16:12 AM)
I really should be out building my Mad Max road warrior machine but i still need gas to run it .. and really how intimidating can you look pedaling a bicycle,even with playing cards in the spokes . ?

mistoferin -> RE: $7 gallon in 4 years (4/28/2008 11:56:35 AM)
E85 is not a cost effective alternative. http://rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WR537/ http://www.edmunds.com/advice/alternativefuels/articles/120863/article.html

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