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AAkasha -> Bird Flu (10/13/2005 3:50:57 PM)
You worried? Akasha

frenchpet -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 5:04:24 PM)
C'mon. After The Y2K bug that was supposed to crash planes, the SARS that was supposed to kill millions, Ebola, West Nile... All of these were supposed to be major disasters. Honestly, nothing happened (SARS killed 800, compared to about 30000 a year for a normal flu, in the USA alone). It seems to me that this kind of organised panick is designed to distract people from what is really going on. Malaria still kills millions (over a million every year, one every 30 seconds), more than any other contagious disease (or am I forgetting another third world disease ? diarrhea ? polio ?). So I'm sad about all these birds being killed, but not concerned that the human death toll will rise up to the amount of people who die of starvation in a day on Earth, or in car accidents in a week on Earth, or from a "normal" flu in USA in one year (all these figures are in the 20000-40000 range).

JohnWarren -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 5:04:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You worried? Akasha Not too much. I've studied the 1918 epidemic and we've got contingency plans for backing off on social contact and Libby doing most of her work from home. Masks are a good idea, not as filters but to remind people not to bring their hands to their mouths. It's a common habit but a wonderful vector for virii. I should note that my filing cabinet is filled with contingency plans. We have several for hurricanes, one for tidal waves, some for civil unrest and even a few left over from the cold war. Drawing these up is almost as much fun as a video game if you take the devil's advocate role and try to alternatively build up and tear down the plan. "What is" leads to a whole bunch of pages. I'm not holding my breath for a vaccine since Halliburton doesn't do medical stuff.

sub4hire -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 5:10:43 PM)
Nope, Live your life to the fullest as if everyday were your last. You never know when it actually will be. If it happens, it happens.

frenchpet -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 5:17:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You worried? Akasha Not too much. I've studied the 1918 epidemic and we've got contingency plans for backing off on social contact and Libby doing most of her work from home. Masks are a good idea, not as filters but to remind people not to bring their hands to their mouths. It's a common habit but a wonderful vector for virii. I'm not holding my breath for a vaccine since Halliburton doesn't do medical stuff. Well, also unlike 1918, there aren't millions of guys eating rats and lice since 4 years ago, sleeping fighting and shitting in mud, with zero... with negative hygiene, sharing their viruses, and going back home to spread them. Wait, did I just explain why people have problems with enjoying wars, over here ?

Quivver -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 5:26:40 PM)
worried? no. it's just one more to add to the list of what if's......... Q

UtopianRanger -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 8:17:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You worried? Akasha Nope..... It's just another false-flag scenario designed to scare the masses so they give up more control. Much like all the phony terror warnings. They {The globalist} relish the fact that most folks are scared. An alternative view-point that I've seen out there, is that it will turn into a pandemic, with an underlying theme of some sorta population-control- mechanism. Pick your poison... - The Ranger

mnottertail -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 8:26:45 PM)
Well, truth is that flu is nasty shit........ and it morphs......... it can transfer from species to species over time.........as it transforms.... 1918 the spanish flu.......killed more people worldwide than the war.... as we cut down the rain forest and got deep into the wet and mirey muck we got ebola and other fucked up shit. This is not a surgical strike... The aspect of day-to-day proximal living has caused people to actually vote for politicians who are clearly not in there best interest.......Doobay or whatever his name is and buckwheat and ootay and et al..... So, avian flu is kinda serious, it is far more real than mad cow disease or the shortage of propane....... I hope that this next presidential year that we find a runner whose sole intent and purpose is to get blowjobs........not one who really wants to fix whats wrong with america

Lordandmaster -> RE: Bird Flu (10/13/2005 9:33:01 PM)
It's amazing how the nation's morale has collapsed since the 90's. Remember "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow"? There were a lot of things about Clinton I didn't like (although he was obviously a better choice than Bush I or Dole), but at least he didn't have a sadsack theme song. Today we have "Be afraid, be very afraid..."

subedana -> RE: Bird Flu (10/14/2005 3:03:43 PM)
No not worried a bit. I have a lot better things to worry about. I take the necessary percautions against the flu.

FangsNfeet -> RE: Bird Flu (10/14/2005 11:38:54 PM)
Once again the media blows something way out of mass porportion to get higher ratings and try to change the world. I hear the news going "In China, 40 ppl die of bird flu." Oh really? And what where the other medical conditions of these ppl? On 40 out of a Billion people died. So what are the real odds of dying if even catching this dreaded that's ravishing the world flu? Any how, I do thank the media. The scare of this bird flu and there underscore hints of another Flu Shot shortage (which is also BULL SHIT!) has made me more needed in the medical field for flu season. Thus I'm still working and making good money all because the media induced another BS terror.

brightspot -> RE: Bird Flu (10/15/2005 12:56:44 AM)
quote: You worried? I think we should all be worried..The Bird Flu, is a minor worry, one worry, there are bigger things that worry me![/font] *Brightspot

ownedjulia -> RE: Bird Flu (10/15/2005 4:06:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You worried? Akasha Why? I live in UK, I was in London on July 7th. I've seen people arriving at Heathrow airport with masks on due to SARS, daily newspaper reports show that hospitals are flooded with the MRSA superbug. Things happen. Media ALWAYS reports the downside. Can you image this headline in a newspaper 'GOOD DAY - NOTHING HAPPEND' It doesn't sell does it? So they media report the very worse. When bird flu hits the UK I'll follow the general advice but I'm not at all worried.

ShadeDiva -> RE: Bird Flu (10/15/2005 9:14:47 AM)
I sort of look at it like this. If it is my time, it's my time. I'd rather get taken out by the flu rather than take weeks to die trapped and crushed under a building that collasped. The flu sucks, but I'd had some nasty ass flus and honestly, there are far way worse ways to die. I'm fairly certain I could get some VERY nifty and effective drugs that would make the last days be out of this world if I was dying with the flu LOL! I mean what the hell - you are dying, might as well try morphine or some groovy opiate or something you'd never touch in a million years otherwise, no worries about addiction, and if you od, well you are dying anyway. lol. Not someone that uses drugs casually, don't even take aspirin unless it's reeeeeeeeeally bad, but it's a special ocassion so I'm sure I'd make an exception if I was totally in pain and hating life. But in reality, I will happily take my chances with the flu. I never take antibiotics as I personally feel getting sick is your body's way of creating a better immune system. Or at least it provides that opportunity. It allows your bosy to rely on itself and take decisive action and have practice at knowing when to send out a call to arms to go to war against whatever little bugger is trying to make me ill. I stay away from antibacterial products. I have one soap that has that property as an asset in my home. Germs and bugs are a fact of life. We existed THIS long without them we have evolved to handle most stuff. Removing them only removes that daily contact with them that probably allows your body to fine tune it's immunity, chances are I've been sick but my body catches it and deals with it before the buggers duplicate so much to the point that I actually FEEL the result of them being there. I don't do flu shots. I don't take antibiotics unless I need to and even then I stop long before I'm supposed to - I NEVER finish a prescription lol, and I tend to take less while I'm taking them than I'm supposed to. I most likely won't wear masks. Personally I think diseases like the super flus and such are Mother Earth just saying you fuckers aren't killing enough of yourselves in war or whatever, so let me help you along, we need to take oput a few billion of you. If I wind up being a part of the clean up so be it. I'm ready to go whenever that time is, and I look at it as the next or last adventure, either I will finally get to see what happens when humans die or I will just blink out in which case, well I won't know jack. LOL. For the most part, I have no regrets. All I could ask and all I really want to be able to say at the end anyway. I've had a fairly decent run at things, though it's been a hard road and I've had maybe more than my share of obstacles, I've learned a lot, and I've really enjoyed and appreciated the good things as a result of the bad things. So yeah, not bothered too much about it. I do think it will suck to see folks I kow that might die from that though. And I'd feel for folks that lost someone they loved as a result. I'm not fully cold-hearted, but I do tend to see disasters (natural and man-made) and disease as sort of a population control. I'm kind of practical that way. I tend to feel more for the survivors than I do for the dead.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Bird Flu (10/15/2005 11:55:12 AM)
quote: Once again the media blows something way out of mass porportion to get higher ratings and try to change the world. I hear the news going "In China, 40 ppl die of bird flu." Oh really? And what where the other medical conditions of these ppl? On 40 out of a Billion people died. So what are the real odds of dying if even catching this dreaded that's ravishing the world flu? While I do think the whole Bird Flu thing is massively overblown, I think you always need be cognizant of three words when you think about China. Misinformation, disinformation and total censorship are a commonplace within the Chinese system of government. They report sixty deaths, but in reality there is no way of knowing if it was sixty-thousand. Believe me, when it comes to censorship and news black-outs, they make the Kremlin of old look like angels. - The Ranger

Lordandmaster -> RE: Bird Flu (10/15/2005 12:14:23 PM)
Exactly right, ESPECIALLY when it comes to things like infectious diseases. I was over there just as the SARS thing was winding down last year. You wouldn't believe how much bigger it was than the government was pretending. quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger While I do think the whole Bird Flu thing is massively overblown, I think you always need be cognizant of three words when you think about China. Misinformation, disinformation and total censorship are a commonplace within the Chinese system of government. They report sixty deaths, but in reality there is no way of knowing if it was sixty-thousand. Believe me, when it comes to censorship and news black-outs, they make the Kremlin of old look like angels.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Bird Flu (10/15/2005 7:02:43 PM)
quote: Exactly right, ESPECIALLY when it comes to things like infectious diseases. I was over there just as the SARS thing was winding down last year. You wouldn't believe how much bigger it was than the government was pretending. Actually, I would believe how deceitful they were about SARS - And bet a whole lot more perished than previously reported. I'd still like to visit that country one day. The Great Wall, The current industrial revolution, and Tiger's leap gorge on the Yangtze are things I'd like to see. I think you were lucky to have made the acquaintance. By the way..... I know my condolences are a bit late, but I'm sorry to hear that the Yankee's ''cashed in'' so early. - The Ranger

mnottertail -> RE: Bird Flu (10/15/2005 7:19:22 PM)
well slick you and me been batting this around a bit... you know and I know its s so much easier if we can set something in crisis rather than address an issue...... Saddam is why you pay more for petroleum distallates and other forms of hydro (water ) carbons (n???) or simply at (c??)............Not so? Regarde...........

MadameDahlia -> RE: Bird Flu (10/16/2005 3:16:09 AM)
Just a bit of information about antibiotics... When you are prescribed an antibiotic either take the entire thing or don't pick up the prescription at all. You are supposed to take the entire amount for a reason. While the antibiotics are working their magic, killing the bacteria that has made you ill the bacteria are trying to fight their way through the medication. And if you stop in the middle of it you allow the bacteria to change, becoming resistant to that form of antibiotic. So when you pass it to the next poor sap they can't be treated with the same medication because they've got an evolved or mutated form of the bacteria. This - as well as washing excessively and obsessively - has helped to contribute to the super bacteria that is resistant to most antibiotics.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Bird Flu (10/16/2005 3:34:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger Actually, I would believe how deceitful they were about SARS - And bet a whole lot more perished than previously reported. On the day I was leaving, I came down with some kind of nasty stomach virus, and was afraid that they'd stop me at the airport and threaten me with quarantine. There was a gizmo everyone had to walk through whenever they went into or out of an airport; allegedly it was able to check people's body temperature, and anyone with fever was supposed to be singled out for further examination. Well, the gizmo musta been busted, because no one stopped me for a moment, even though I must have looked like a zombie. quote: By the way..... I know my condolences are a bit late, but I'm sorry to hear that the Yankee's ''cashed in'' so early. Yeah, a sad day in Gotham. But expectations for the Yankees are insanely high. Even if a team makes the playoffs EVERY YEAR, they should only win the World Series once every eight years on average (with three rounds of playoffs). Well, it hasn't been eight years yet.

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