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jeremias13 -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 10:30:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: jeremias13
In fact, for most of you what I have been doing is simply babbling...


This I cannot deny.

Cali



What a shocker .... coming from ya....




jeremias13 -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 10:33:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

Okay, after seeing this complaint for the umpteenth time, [sm=boohoo.gif]

I will now enact a new rule.

Every time some wanker decides to whine about the Dommes who require money/tribute/whatever, he must pay me $1 US prior to posting. If he refuses to pay the dollar, he may not post his whine.

Problem solved. [sm=domme.gif]

/sarcasm [;)]



Please, please, please... at least can I finish wanking??? pretty please?????????????????????????

Your so Sarcastic... how do you do it??? Can you please teach me???? pretty pleaaaaaaaaase?????????????????????????

Another brilliant and useless post....




Lynnxz -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 10:36:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jeremias13

Another brilliant and useless post....


At least hers are brilliant [&:]




jeremias13 -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 10:40:15 AM)

As you are my dear.... brilliant minds should always be together in order to have so much more quality time....




Maya2001 -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 11:09:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jeremias13

From my experience, it's difficult to find a definition about BDSM that makes everybody happy. When I say trully I mean it simply to me. Others might agree or disagree and that's fine.

So, for me, if you really submit someone, you don't need even to mention money. When you really control someone if you needed/wanted you'll have it because the person that is with you will do everything to please you.

Most of the cases here look to me as simply greedy people that use BDSM to achive their goals... in most cases gaining money without doing a scratch.

The BDSM either you feel it or you don't, you don't use as an unveil excuse for your greed. And that's what a lot of people is in "here", simply greedy and sometimes with a small bdsm fetish.

Hope I've answered your question.


I am a fem sub but have thought about this I know there are also pro Doms out there as well , and tried to come to an understanding  and feel I have come to accept  there is a need for.   There are 2 types of dommes each fill a different niche  ...there  are those that are seeking relationships  such as what you are looking for who do not ask for money from their subs ...but their is also the pro.   They serve those who are not interested in a committed relationship as in those that are married, just want play but would not want to take a domme as a wife,    or just seeking to explore if they have an interest in, or may serve subs who use as an interlude to fulfill needs in between relationships,  they serve as  temporary outlets with no real emotional  connection in many most cases.  So they fill a society need as there are far more males in particular that want this over a committed relation  that male subs wanting a committed relationship.  Because of numbers and energy required most cannot  have a primary job and still provide a service in this capacity on a daily basis with 2 or 3 clients possibly more  a day  and have to work weekends as well provideing service, so they therefore need to give up their source of income if they are to provide this service.  They also need to provide a location to operate from, then they must equip that location,   they have to mostly use purposely  designed equipment  and must have lots of variety rather than pervertables that most  relationship dommes might be able to get away with using and it has to be of good quality inorder to avoid accidents that could lead to legal lawsuits ... so more risk than  an accident that occurs in a committed relationship.  Since they are dealing with multiple people on a regular basis they likely need to acquire sterilizing equipment for certain toys inorder to prevent infections and STDs in their clients, certain  gear will also have to be replaced frequently example whips and floggers  if high quality can be $200 to $700 a piece, pros  also  have to dress the part  and  when you look at the costs of some outfits they are far from inexpensive much of the poutfits  running $700 to a $1000 each, there is also the costs of telephone internet and website, some form or credit taking account.  So operating costs to provide this kind of business service can be quite high  and inorder to maintain some form of legality and avoid  prosecution as a prostitute no sex is offered with the service. As a service business in order to continue to function and operate means that a fee of some sort must be charged.    

So if you want a relationship domme then specify that is what you are seeking  but don't bitch about those that provide a service for others that want that sort of relationship, and don't complain if they request a fee for their service when approached ..they ydo not owe you freebie service...if you don't like what they are offering then block and delete ...just like us fem subs have to do when we are approached by Doms or sub males  who are not what we are seeking.  Even fem subs have to sometimes wait months and years to find a compatible relationship dom and we have a far larger pool to choose from  than the sub males have ....if you want to call it quits in your search I am sure several other relationship seeking sub males will be cheering  because you have just increased their chances by one. 




jeremias13 -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 11:42:00 AM)

Here we go again... Once more and I hope FINAL ONE... This has nothing to do with my wants, personal search whatever....

Those cases that you've talked about are for me the least of what I presented. I don't doubt there are a lot a people PRO really committed to the cause. That's their choice and everything you told I understand although as principle I don't agree with it. Still... as I told a million times. Thank God we have free will and that's with them.

What I question is people that use BDSM as an excuse to make money. And I'm not talking about organization of events, workshops, etc... etc... etc... I'm talking about FAKE "exploiting" other Fakes, believers or naives. Anyway, that's the world we live, that's how the world go around. According to many that's money that makes the world go around. I particularly like when gravity makes them fall on their asses. But not even like that they understand it....

Anyway, the punchline here, apparently is: it's ok for most people that others use the BDSM as pretext to scam others. As I told on my first post here, simply are greedy with a "probable" BDSM fetish. That's an awesome thing for all the lifestylers.

Oh well... that's the world we live....

But what do I know???? I'm just a Idiot Arrogant Wanker with the wrong attitude that is Bitching because he doesn't find himself a Domme without paying.... poor me....




azropedntied -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 11:50:09 AM)

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xxblushesxx -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 11:55:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sundowner

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Sure thing.
I'm absolutely POSITIVE that these guys who don't want to pay to play, would LOVE to pay to complain. It just makes sense!


Sheesh - works for me. If I post the $20 do I get to whine straight away, or do the terms require I wait for receipt confirmation? Since you're already handling a growing level of the Lynnxz agency for me, do I get volume discount blushes?


No discount, but I will write the receipt on my used underwear..or...erm, that is, I would, except, I'm not allowed to wear it. Hmmm...
Oh, and I've set up an account for you SD, not only do you not have to wait for the receipt, but you can whine and cupcake all you want. I'll just bill ya at the end of the month!




xxblushesxx -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:02:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jeremias13

Here we go again... Once more and I hope FINAL ONE... This has nothing to do with my wants, personal search whatever....



What I question is people that use BDSM as an excuse to make money. And I'm not talking about organization of events, workshops, etc... etc... etc... I'm talking about FAKE "exploiting" other Fakes, believers or naives.

Anyway, the punchline here, apparently is: it's ok for most people that others use the BDSM as pretext to scam others. As I told on my first post here, simply are greedy with a "probable" BDSM fetish. That's an awesome thing for all the lifestylers.


I'm not really sure why everyone is coming down so hard on you, but they do seem to be. Probably because they're sick of this question, I guess.

But now that I understand your question, I'd like to attempt an answer. In a way, I have felt as you do regarding this. But, then again, if I session with someone, and I pay them to give me a certain experience, even if the other person is counting the money in their mind rather than the strokes of the crop, did I *not* get what I paid for? If *I* feel fulfilled by the session even if it wasn't 'real' whose to say that the person who did it for pay is a fake?




GreedyTop -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:07:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jeremias13
What I question is people that use BDSM as an excuse to make money. And I'm not talking about organization of events, workshops, etc... etc... etc... I'm talking about FAKE "exploiting" other Fakes, believers or naives. Anyway, that's the world we live, that's how the world go around. According to many that's money that makes the world go around. I particularly like when gravity makes them fall on their asses. But not even like that they understand it....


and nobody outside of BDSM ever does the same thing??

good lord...

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/may/02/2-men-scammed-helpful-college-student-police-say/

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/may/01/me-scam-costs-ex-housing-official/

that's just 2 I pulled from the local newspapers website.

Oddly enough, no mention of BDSM.... imagine that!




azropedntied -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:08:30 PM)

when the OP started the thread it was his first , now 64 posts on the same thread  yeah i think we can pass out the cup cakes  this should be done , though i am not a mod or nuttin , but i would like some cupcakes ! ooops bad bad bad cupcake thoughts [:)]




xxblushesxx -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:13:43 PM)

az, you *do* realize you now owe lynnezx $60. Luckily for you I didn't copy and paste that, or you prolly wouldn't be able to afford gas next week.
What am I saying?
NO ONE can afford gas.




Lynnxz -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:16:22 PM)

Pft... 60$ my butt!

Use the search fuction to look for  "Cupcake"   You can be my collection agency Blushes... we'll go 50/50 on this thing.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:26:02 PM)

But...I'm a subby type...I don't do well with collections. (except shoe and boot collections)




azropedntied -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:28:37 PM)

Look at the start of the thread , i said gimmie 20 bucks , Besides ya both need to come to AZ or atleast to Thunder in july and i shall pay ya  off in CUPCAKES [sm=cute.gif][sm=cute.gif][:D]




azropedntied -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:29:57 PM)

LOL  blushie yer gunna be a Switch soon  breaking knee caps for cupcakes 




xxblushesxx -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:30:44 PM)

pffftttt....SD; have a talk with this gentleman, and tell him how spoiled we are...




Sundowner -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 12:48:43 PM)

 



Hi agent - couldn't work out the kneecap thing, sorry. But you spoiled? Never!

Now get back to sorting the accounts - you're hired help now, so work work work is needed.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 1:05:37 PM)

huh?

what is this "work" of which you speak?




Lynnxz -> RE: Money... (5/3/2008 1:09:50 PM)

You'll be fine blushes... here... you can borrow one of my bats!

[sm=beatdeadhorse.gif]  Now, do just like this... only apply it directly to the kneecap.




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