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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

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Once again, for me that's a reduced life vision. I wonder how for example the aborigines or people that don't have contact with "modern civilization" live...

Well cupcake, you happen to live in a "Modern Civilization"

Modern Civilization takes money.

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By the way, hope you can use well your money to make a less polluted planet

Wtf does this have to do with anything?

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Once again, for me that's a reduced life vision. I wonder how for example the aborigines or people that don't have contact with "modern civilization" live...



Well cupcake, you happen to live in a "Modern Civilization"

Modern Civilization takes money.



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By the way, hope you can use well your money to make a less polluted planet



Wtf does this have to do with anything?

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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anyone would.

actually, that is a false assumption.

this slave has been offered ridiculous sums of money to "perform" as a Dominatrix, and turned it/them down.

there are those who view BDSM in a different context and would consider it debasing if they were to use their skills/talents in exchange for $$$...y'know, the less popular and wholly legal definition of "prostitute" or even the lesser of moral judgements, "employment", where there is no sex involved...and therefore would be others that wouldn't.

for this slave, it isn't a matter of one is better or worse or "true" BDSM, just different strokes for different folks.

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

I was waiting for the Cliff Notes version of the issue.  Thanks Lynnxz!

Cali

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

But the question remains... do Aborigines eat cupcakes?

Cali

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ORIGINAL: jeremias13

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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anyone would.

actually, that is a false assumption.

this slave has been offered ridiculous sums of money to "perform" as a Dominatrix, and turned it/them down.

there are those who view BDSM in a different context and would consider it debasing if they were to use their skills/talents in exchange for $$$...y'know, the less popular and wholly legal definition of "prostitute" or even the lesser of moral judgements, "employment", where there is no sex involved...and therefore would be others that wouldn't.

for this slave, it isn't a matter of one is better or worse or "true" BDSM, just different strokes for different folks.

Thank you :)

Glad to see that I'm not alone on this.

I completely agree with you, especially on your last paragraph.

And that's exactly what I mean when I say "true" BDSM. It's simply my vision, I'm not more nor less then other. It's simply what I feel that is right for me.

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Geez... it's so difficult to explain something on a spiritual level for people that cannot see beyond the material.... I believe that is enough to say that I go along much more with people that have a more spiritual vision from BDSM than the one that have a more materialistic vision from it. And for me BDSM makes sense when all the parties involve feel whole when they do it, before and after the process. It's not a mere itch. And that's the danger of generalization... judging that everyone is alike... Still I also understand how hard it is not to fall in that kind of pattern.

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ORIGINAL: tsatske

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Once again, for me that's a reduced life vision. I wonder how for example the aborigines or people that don't have contact with "modern civilization" live... You can believe whatever makes you happy, for me it's the same.... By the way, hope you can use well your money to make a less polluted planet and also hope you can buy the love of your life or your happiness....

The aboriginies lived in a different society than you do. You need money to pay the rent. However, throughout the history of society, there has always been 'money', you are just narrowing your vision down to paper money in order to not see that, so as not to disturb your rose colored vision of the world.
There were always 'rich' and 'poor' people, even in aborigonie cultures. There are always powerful and weak, Alpha, leaders, followers. Someone is the best hunter, the best warrior, the best fisher. Someone's garden grows and they have excess, avialable to trade for things they want - then they have more things than other people.
If this were not so, then the Navaho would not have so many of their myths wrapped up in greed and money and wealth. To the Navaho, to find a witch, you look for the person with the most, and their family or neihbor is hungry. If there was no rich and poor among them, where did they get such a concept in the first place?

btw, Old Bastard, i checked his profile. English seems to not be his first language. Thank goodness for that. Although he does not want stupid ones, i should mention. So, someone named tsatske is probably right out <grin> (tsatske: beautiful, brainless woman. armcandy)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

WTF cheesecake muffin?? Where is this place again?

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

WTF cheesecake muffin?? Where is this place again?

Come for the Derby, and I'll get ya something yummy!

(oh yeah, and a muffin too!)

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Although I don't have a final opinion, but as I told in some posts I believe that BDSM makes sense only when it's filled on a spiritual level for every concerned part. That it very related to what people feel mainly during and after the relation independently of how long is that relation. For me only makes sense when both parts feel happy with it. Also is difficult to define either boundaries either what it's truly BDSM or not. Even as we look to the base of BDSM (Safe, Sane and Consensual) there's no clear border for that and I really doubt that will ever be one. People are different, think in a different way, feel different. For me is clear that is not only a physical experience but a complement between the spiritual and the material level. When we talk about money, it's something that might arrive tops to the mental level but never to the spiritual. And that's why I don't feel it as truly part of BDSM.