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RE: Aiii Caramba! - 5/2/2008 3:24:30 PM   
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Indeed. We're generally just as guilty as the US of blaming every damned foreigner for the way they resent our meddling in their affairs.

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RE: Aiii Caramba! - 5/2/2008 3:28:21 PM   
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Of course, that still leaves Sikhs, but then theyre more or less a mix of Muslim and Hindu, so they must be twice as evil deranged child abusing terrorist damned foreigners.

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Just for the record, Sikhs are not "a mix of Muslim and Hindu", although widely seen that way. Even some Sikhs say that, because it's an easier explanation. Sikhism is actually thoroughly in the Indian tradition, and was born when it's founder Guru Nanak rejected both identities, in favor of the human identity and the search for love of God. As such he preached to both religious communities, and to whomever else was around, and he therefore preached in terms that would be understandable to his audiences. That's the main reason why there is the appearance of a Muslim influence on Sikhism. Also, when the Sikh scripture was compiled, in addition to songs of the Gurus of the Sikhs, they included songs by various Hindu and Muslim saints, those whose messages were harmonious with the message of the Gurus. The Muslim saints in question were of course only the most moderate and liberal of them, since the extremists (direct predecessors and ancestors of today's Taliban) often killed
Sikhs. And that in turn is why Sikhs developed a militant side, becoming what we in the West would call an order of religious knighthood: in order to defend against the proto-terrorists.

As for the original post... the ritual seems a bit risky, but the fact is that Muslims aren't any likely to hurt their own babies than anyone else is. It's a good luck rite, not some sort of sacrifice. Kids get more hurt playing team sports like baseball, soccer, rugby or cricket, and no calls that child abuse.

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RE: Aiii Caramba! - 5/2/2008 3:30:57 PM   
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Indeed. We're generally just as guilty as the US of blaming every damned foreigner for the way they resent our meddling in their affairs.

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No I mean dropped on their heads... you Brits just forgot to use a blanket... the true reason for a stiff upper lip.

Of course all said with tongue in cheek…especially since I fell out of the crib as a child… didn’t hurt me any!!

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RE: Aiii Caramba! - 5/2/2008 3:32:06 PM   
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I hear Michael Jackson is moving to India.


Yes, disguised as a sheet.

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RE: Aiii Caramba! - 5/2/2008 3:41:55 PM   
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In  a ritual that would terrify most mothers, Indian villagers have cheered as screaming babies were dropped from a 50-foot temple tower.

For 500 years, worshippers at a Muslim shrine in western India have continued the tradition -- a rite considered to bring good health and good luck to the children.

The infants land and bounce on a bed-sheet held taut by men 50 feet below, and are quickly passed through the crowd to their mothers.


http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-babytoss,0,3245332.story

A vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeNKtb2SP_M

Should a government step in to stop something like this?


Hell no.  There are amusement park rides that are more dangerous than that.


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RE: Aiii Caramba! - 5/2/2008 3:49:00 PM   
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I appreciate everyone that has commented.
 
If someone did that in a Western nation, do you think it'd be allowed? Nooo way. And honestly, I don't think the dropping should be done anywhere. What if homey sneezes at the wrong moment, and lets loose his part of the sheet?
 
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RE: Aiii Caramba! - 5/2/2008 6:26:59 PM   
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Should a government step in to stop something like this?

No, they should mind their own business.


Of course...we should all look askance as babies are dropped from 50 feet....absolutely...bungie jumping from 3 stories up....that's what 3 year olds should be doing.

Absolutely.

Sure.

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