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Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 4:48:06 PM   
Bound2One


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Status: offline 		I didn't want to hijack the other pain threads, so I thought I'd start a new one.  I'm wondering - how long did it take you learn how to process pain?  By process I mean either purely accept it (because it's something either Master wishes to do or it's part of a punishment) or accept it and allow it turn into something pleasurable. 

Master recently used a crop on me for the first time ... and yes, that was pain.  Not pleasurable one bit, and very difficult to get through, though my mental state wasn't quite what it could have been, so maybe next time I will be able to handle it better. 

The next time we were together I had a very heavy spanking, a punishment one.  I adore the usual ones he treats me to, but this one was a bitch while I was receiving it.  I was able to concentrate more, though, than the during the crop incident above, and got through it w/o too much fussing, so maybe I am learning to handle it a bit better.  Even though this felt like pure pain to me, my body was still turned on by it.  And I get hot and bothered everytime I think of it now, craving another. 

There are things that I adore that are somewhat painful - clamps, spankings, flogging... but I am definitely craving more, but have that hurdle of being mentally prepared for it, I guess, to get over before it's something I can fully embrace. 

Pain is such a complicated issue for me to figure out!  The thing is ...I know I want it.  I know it's something I need.  And I definitely know it's something I need from Master.  Maybe it's just a matter of time and experience.  Maybe it's just a matter of the intensity being ramped up and my getting used to it.  Master is great at talking these things through with me, and is very supportive.  I thought I might find different perspectives which might help here too. 

Thanks!!
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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 5:14:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll let you know when I get to be an expert at processing pain...so far...I'm five years in and there are days it just HURTS. Some people just never become accomplished at it. There are days from the first pop, I know I am going to have a hard time. Other times, I am flying along, and loving it. I quit stressing so much over trying to make my body and mind bend to a certain standard. Besides, Master sometimes likes to see me not handling it all that well, (such is life with a sadist), and it pleases him to know I've simply endured it out of my love and dedication to him.

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 5:20:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Every time is different. Being a woman it can be based on hormones too. Some days my tolerance is high. Some days it just all hurts and I never get that kick of endorphins that makes my tolerance level higher.

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 5:20:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		i haven't figured that one out yet.  i think when i have more experience and am in a relationship where i can truly just "let go", it might help.

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 5:28:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		i didn't have a hard time learning to process the pain. What i had a hard time processing is the fact that i liked it and wanted more, more, more. (Greedy monkey that i am)  It bothered me that when i was smacked with a hand, belt, plastic hanger, cane, etc, that i would say ouch, then raise my ass higher, giggle and ask for more.  It bothered me that when my nipples were being pinched so hard that i thought they were going to be popped right off, that i once again would let out a gasp and push myself into the hand that had me at its mercy.  It bothered me that i really enjoyed the pain, the bruises and tenderness afterwards. 
As most of us, i was raised that men don't hit or hurt women in any form.  It is not ok for a woman to enjoy the pain.  i was raised to think that there was something wrong with women who stayed with a man who hurt her in any form.  i know there is a difference in what it is that we do and a man harming his wife out of anger.  But i didn't know that before the first time i was hit out of pleasure. i cried afterwards, i was ashamed of myself.  i asked myself "how can i be one of those women who like to be beat?" i didn't have an answer.  Lucky i met people who helped me through that process and that i am ok the way i am and what i want and everyone else could go to hell in a hand basket!!




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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 5:51:23 PM   
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Besides, Master sometimes likes to see me not handling it all that well, (such is life with a sadist), and it pleases him to know I've simply endured it out of my love and dedication to him.


So you just grit your teeth and bear it on those days?  Or bite on the gag, or whatever... lol? 

Luscious - thanks for pointing out the hormonal differences.  I hadn't thought of that! 

Christine - I'm in a relationship now and trying to learn to 'let go'.  Part of my problem is that I'm not very patient and want things done yesterday, so ... I probably have to tell myself to relax and we'll work through this as we've done other things. 

Thank you for your responses!

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 5:53:52 PM   
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i didn't have a hard time learning to process the pain. What i had a hard time processing is the fact that i liked it and wanted more, more, more. (Greedy monkey that i am)  



I know where you're coming from.  This may be a part of the stumbling block I'm having - the existence of and acceptance of this within myself.  I know I tend to overthink things sometimes, which can get in the way of simply living in the moment.  Thank you for sharing!

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 7:03:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		My first Mistress turned me into a pain slut and then my Goddess wife continued that trend by taking over where the other left off. It was gradual and seductive at the same time. i was flogged to the point where all i could do was try to anticipate where the flogger would land and arch my back to try and meet it. Within a year i was a true pain slut.

My Goddess and my Mistress have taken me even further into that realm now and i look forward to where they will lead me next.

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 7:25:52 PM   
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Besides, Master sometimes likes to see me not handling it all that well, (such is life with a sadist), and it pleases him to know I've simply endured it out of my love and dedication to him.


So you just grit your teeth and bear it on those days?  Or bite on the gag, or whatever... lol? 



haha...Pretty much! There are times when some kind of visualizations help, or counting, or something where I can focus on the sounds or rhythm..but then he throws in something that won't fall into a pattern I am trying to keep track of in my head- an extra hard pop, a longer delay, a series of fast strikes, or two on the right side when he's been alternating between the left and right side,  and I totally lose the focus, ...It's that off-pattern stuff that really throws me. (He's deliciously evil like that!)

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 7:41:02 PM   
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haha...Pretty much! There are times when some kind of visualizations help, or counting, or something where I can focus on the sounds or rhythm..but then he throws in something that won't fall into a pattern I am trying to keep track of in my head- an extra hard pop, a longer delay, a series of fast strikes, or two on the right side when he's been alternating between the left and right side,  and I totally lose the focus, ...It's that off-pattern stuff that really throws me. (He's deliciously evil like that!)


LOL!  I absolutely detest counting out loud.  It just seems to prolong the agony for me, which of course, he knows and uses at times.  I'll have to keep trying different things to see what works to take my mind off of what is happening to my body.  Maybe I'm focusing too much on what is happening, rather than letting my mind drift a bit.  You know, like when a guy is trying not to cum and he names baseball stats in his head for distraction - I'll have to start redecorating the room in my head or something.  It's worth a shot. 

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 7:42:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for your post, MistressDollys.  You remind me that it takes time to learn these skills.  I must work on my impatience as well - one project at a time!  lol

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 7:58:42 PM   
ChainedExistence


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Status: offline 		Redecorating the room? haha..I don't think I've ever contemplated paint colors while he's caning me! But I have created imaginary railroad trestles, climbed a never ending staircase, or saw the blades of ice skates creating patterns on the ice. I've tried picturing the pain as a liquid that was moving around, and through me, or music notes that were playing out physically on my body, but on some days, it really doesn't matter what I try-it's not going to work. Like BBWinNC though, I always find myself wanting it again...even if it hurt A LOT the time before... I think there's a part of me that just feels proud of "suffering" for him , if that makes any sense?

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 9:51:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well everyone processes pain- we deal with pain from birth and continue to process it as we grow.  People who do not experience pain are in very grave danger and have a lot of difficulty in day to day life.

I process pain pretty well, my pain threshhold seems to be a big higher than average and I've honed it to process better over time.  I don't think I'm better than someone who has had to deal with chronic arthritis for years though.

However, I do not process direct physical pain into direct pleasure at all.  It's very doubtful I ever will.

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 10:21:58 PM   
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I'm wondering - how long did it take you learn how to process pain?  By process I mean either purely accept it (because it's something either Master wishes to do or it's part of a punishment) or accept it and allow it turn into something pleasurable. 

For me, there was no learning to process pain.  i didn't have to learn to accept it or allow it to turn into pleasure.  Erotically administered pain gave me pleasure right from the start.  The very first time a man pulled my hair and slapped me and spit on me and made me squirm, i was hooked.  It hurt but it also turned me on incredibly and as soon as the sting and ache faded away, i wanted to feel it all again. 
 
If erotic pain hadn't given me such a good feeling, i never would have had any interest in it and i would have stayed away from it.  To me, there wouldn't be any point to it, if it didn't give me pleasure. 
 
It never bothered me that i liked erotic pain.  It didn't seem weird to me.  It was very natural.  It was the only kind of pain that i liked so, i wasn't worried that i might do myself or allow someone else to do me any real harm.  Rarely has pain been used as a form of punishment on me, i guess because it's something that i enjoy so much.  It has always been done for the purpose of getting me turned-on and for the enjoyment of seeing my reaction.
 
The pain that my Master inflicts on me is much more intense than anything that had ever been delivered to me by anyone before Him.  And, while it's very painful, it gets me instantly wet and turned-on.  i love to see the marks He leaves on me and i go to check them in the mirror, as soon as He's finished and allows me to get up.  i also love feeling the painful reminders for a few days afterward.  Erotic pain is something very beautiful to me.
 
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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/2/2008 10:27:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I deal with pain differently on different days. I've heard that hormones have a great deal to do with how you receive pain, it's why the ladies that do the whole Brazilian wax thing ask about it.

Occasionally, when I'm on the receiving end of some kinds of sharp pain, like those damn little whippy canes, I'll *see* pain in splotches of color when my eyes are closed. O.o It's usually a precursor to either reaching my limit, or where I start randomly crying.

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/3/2008 7:18:59 AM   
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Well everyone processes pain- we deal with pain from birth and continue to process it as we grow.  People who do not experience pain are in very grave danger and have a lot of difficulty in day to day life.

I process pain pretty well, my pain threshhold seems to be a big higher than average and I've honed it to process better over time.  I don't think I'm better than someone who has had to deal with chronic arthritis for years though.


LA - thanks for posting the above.  I don't know why, but I think I'm looking at erotic pain differently than normal everyday pains.  It's funny you mentioned arthritis, because I have it, deal with it and handle the pain pretty well in my day-to-day life.  Maybe a shifting of my mindset would help me cope with the erotic pain better - when Master brings on the heavier stuff, perhaps I need to plain ole' accept it and get through it if it's not turning into pleasure rather than reacting to it emotionally. 

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/3/2008 7:22:28 AM   
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The pain that my Master inflicts on me is much more intense than anything that had ever been delivered to me by anyone before Him.  And, while it's very painful, it gets me instantly wet and turned-on.  i love to see the marks He leaves on me and i go to check them in the mirror, as soon as He's finished and allows me to get up.  i also love feeling the painful reminders for a few days afterward.  Erotic pain is something very beautiful to me.


Interesting, joy - thank you for sharing.  I know what you mean about the marks - I loved seeing the crop markings for days afterwards, and all the little bruises he leaves are like my badges of honor, my connection with him. 

A question for you - you've never reached the point where pain was JUST pain and not erotic for you?  I'm curious, not doubting you! 

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/3/2008 7:23:43 AM   
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Occasionally, when I'm on the receiving end of some kinds of sharp pain, like those damn little whippy canes, I'll *see* pain in splotches of color when my eyes are closed. O.o It's usually a precursor to either reaching my limit, or where I start randomly crying.


It's funny you mention canes, Lynnxz.  Master just told me last night that he got 3 of 'em.  I'm both fearful and turned on by the thought!

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RE: Yet another pain thread... - 5/3/2008 8:29:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bound2One

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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
The pain that my Master inflicts on me is much more intense than anything that had ever been delivered to me by anyone before Him.  And, while it's very painful, it gets me instantly wet and turned-on.  i love to see the marks He leaves on me and i go to check them in the mirror, as soon as He's finished and allows me to get up.  i also love feeling the painful reminders for a few days afterward.  Erotic pain is something very beautiful to me.


Interesting, joy - thank you for sharing.  I know what you mean about the marks - I loved seeing the crop markings for days afterwards, and all the little bruises he leaves are like my badges of honor, my connection with him. 


I totally connected with these comments, I love the marks that are left on me and on the rare nights that we aren't together they make him feel close to me again.

Thank you both so much for sharing.

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