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BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 6:40:11 AM

wulfgarw

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I had an idea sparked by another thread here (websites to learn from).

What if there was a online type learning course, kinda like a online university where people could sign up and take a online course in all sorts of BDSM topics.

Lower level courses could be somewhat along the lines of watching a powerpoint presentation or read a paper, take a quiz, pass with a percentage grade, and have it on their account as taken as a prerequisite to taking subsequent courses in related topics?

Higher level courses can be as involved as a real University online class, incuding real time lectures, presentations, or video at a set time taught by a set instructor/expert in that field, such as fireplay, singletails and other highly advanced forms of play? Of course, with the diclaimor of 'this is for info only"...

Has this been done before? I volunteer to be the head professor of Handcuffology, in the School of Bondage...

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 6:42:57 AM

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what would the requirements be for the weal and twue teachers for this university?

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 6:47:28 AM

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I see a lot of meetings with advisers and arguments over course and curriculum content.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 6:52:39 AM

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I see it as an unfortunate way of restricting free thought and expression of sexuality. If you want to teach health and saftey, fine. But what if my kink, or someone elses' doesn't fit into your pre-defined ciriculum?

"We don't DO that sort of thing here! Out! Out, and stay out until you conform!"

Fuck that.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 6:53:10 AM

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At first, I imagine it would have to be like wikipedia, volunteers who post their class, then later, a panel of folks who review each class and then organizing what goes where, who gets to stay, who goes, and all sorts of other details.

Right now, it's just a broad idea, a thought written down on a etherspace equivelent of a cocktail napkin...

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 6:57:13 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: wulfgarw
At first, I imagine it would have to be like wikipedia, volunteers who post their class, then later, a panel of folks who review each class and then organizing what goes where, who gets to stay, who goes, and all sorts of other details.

Already being done. Here's an example:
http://www.londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Main_Page

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 7:18:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bipolarber

I see it as an unfortunate way of restricting free thought and expression of sexuality. If you want to teach health and saftey, fine. But what if my kink, or someone elses' doesn't fit into your pre-defined ciriculum?

"We don't DO that sort of thing here! Out! Out, and stay out until you conform!"

Fuck that.

I do see your point.
Maybe this is a very bad idea.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 7:21:19 AM

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I can't seem to delete the thread...

Moderator, could you delete this thread, please?

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 7:24:56 AM

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Similiar idea here http://www.evilmonk.org/A/menu.cfm

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 7:41:01 AM

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how would you determine one's BDSM philosophy and teachings to be the absolute twue way above all others? even your board of directors will be arguing on that alone for years.

besides would a twue submissive diploma help land the dominant of my dreams?

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 8:09:00 AM

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Personnaly I think he has something here.
I went to the two sites that were posted and they were just the normal informationl sites that anyone can find online.
I have been around for 35 yrs and I have found over the years that most Doms and
Submissive/Slaves could benefit from classes. Mentors over the years that I have met, unfortunately If they are not deceased, would be more than willing to share their infinate knowleagde. That is why they all write books!!! Though most of the books are not readily available to some and classes online by these wondrful people and I am also including the wonderful Mistresses and older subs/slaves that I have met over the years to say YES this is a viable outlet for us to get our message out.

SO many in this lifestyle now that are on this site have NO clue what this lifestyle is even about.

This would be a wonderful way to educate all whom are interested. Then they can make more positive deciscions as to what they are looking and seeking.

To the poster, Don't just throw out an idea. Follow through! Contact people!
Get more invovled in your idea!
If you need help in implementing your plan then ask for it. Many here would be willing to help I am sure.

Don't just throw your idea out because a few think or send you sites that are not what you are talking about.

I say GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!

It is a great thought process but maybe needs some further thought!

I wish you well and I would be willing to help if you need it.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 8:21:44 AM

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It is an interesting idea however some things would need to be clarified. What is the purpose of the courses - will a degree or diploma from here somehow imply that this person is better than someone without one. I can picture a lot of people having these great results on their profile however having possibly only learnt enough to get through the final test and have now forgotten it all. The idea defintitely is interesting though. :)

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 8:24:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

how would you determine one's BDSM philosophy and teachings to be the absolute twue way above all others? even your board of directors will be arguing on that alone for years.

besides would a twue submissive diploma help land the dominant of my dreams?

Have you considered this angle sambasis? Don't take the OP's idea to mean that he is wanting to teach a one wayism above all else but working with the already acceptable guidelines of proper techniques to ensure the participants have the knowledge to guide them safely. I mean, Jay Wiseman, John Warren, Trevor Jacques and others all wrote BDSM themed books based upon their research and personal experiences. They don't preach their way is the one true way but pass on the knowledge and potential harm thus it is our responsibility to use this solid info to guide our actions appropriately. Yanno it would be a refreshing change to see less cynicism when a poster has an idea which is unique. Granted it may not be absolute practical but at least give them a bit of credit for using their brain and thinking outside the box.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 9:23:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: wulfgarw

I had an idea sparked by another thread here (websites to learn from).

What if there was a online type learning course, kinda like a online university where people could sign up and take a online course in all sorts of BDSM topics.

Lower level courses could be somewhat along the lines of watching a powerpoint presentation or read a paper, take a quiz, pass with a percentage grade, and have it on their account as taken as a prerequisite to taking subsequent courses in related topics?

Higher level courses can be as involved as a real University online class, incuding real time lectures, presentations, or video at a set time taught by a set instructor/expert in that field, such as fireplay, singletails and other highly advanced forms of play? Of course, with the diclaimor of 'this is for info only"...

Has this been done before? I volunteer to be the head professor of Handcuffology, in the School of Bondage...

Yes and I've done enough research to get my doctorate already!
It would be a unique opportunity to open up the impasse between the US and UK at the moment as getting over there to do some real time lectures: well get me on board.
I suppose it would pass an Ethics Committee as long as it offered say a
B.A.BDSM
or
M.A. SM
or
B.Soc.Sci.BD
but a B.Sc K9 ???
see where I'm going?
It could just become another tool of knowledge as power over.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 9:27:59 AM

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Oh yeah.. like I want to follow some guidelines set up by a dinosaur. Ideas evolve. Life moves on. Things change. Not everyone wants to do the "lifestyle" the way someone says it should be done.
Count me among the people who have engaged in bdsm for 30 yrs.. and still does not conform to standards set by people I don't know or care about.
Kyst

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ORIGINAL: BuddingSub
SO many in this lifestyle now that are on this site have NO clue what this lifestyle is even about.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 9:29:51 AM

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Years spent in the lifestyle mean nothing. Why don't people get this? Someone could be doing the same thing today that he/she did 30 years ago, having learned nothing new along the way. I'm never impressed by someone's length of time in the lifestyle. Although I do find it laughable.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 9:32:32 AM

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Apparently there are standards to be met.
Unfortunately many of the standards were set by people sitting behind a computer typing out commands to someone 1000 miles away.
Kyst

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Years spent in the lifestyle mean nothing. Why don't people get this? Someone could be doing the same thing today that he/she did 30 years ago, having learned nothing new along the way. I'm never impressed by someone's length of time in the lifestyle. Although I do find it laughable.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 9:37:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

I mean, Jay Wiseman, John Warren, Trevor Jacques and others all wrote BDSM themed books based upon their research and personal experiences.

I agree with you entirely.
In actuality for practioners in the field of relationships, sex therapists, and counsellors: their tools are mostly built around power over models.
I think it is really a brilliant opportunity to think through thie whole concept of sexual power dynamics, both anthropologically, developmentally, in terms of a new angle on reward and punishment, revolutionary sexual politics, gender, ethnicity, ageism, conformity, labelling , exclusion, access, self-actualisation, spirituality, ritual, family dynamics. culture bias. ALL of these look different from the power exchange approach.
Count me in.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 11:07:40 AM

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An interesting idea but it would probably turn into a One Twue Way factory. Those with swelled egos would attempt to define their students relationships regardless of the people involved and what actually works for them. If it didn't, I suspect you'd get an ulcer from monitoring the teachers to make sure they didn't do that.

If it worked, it would be interesting but I think you would have better luck putting something together in real time. Not a school, but teaching events with people you know personally at a local dungeon.

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RE: BDSM University? - 5/4/2008 12:10:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

An interesting idea but it would probably turn into a One Twue Way factory. Those with swelled egos would attempt to define their students relationships regardless of the people involved and what actually works for them. If it didn't, I suspect you'd get an ulcer from monitoring the teachers to make sure they didn't do that.

And this doesn't happen in vanilla Universities? One twue way anarchism, replaced by one twue way Marxism, replaced by one twue way interationism, replaced by one twue way post-modernism? It's just the way we deal with knowledge whatever the knowledge is eventually it gets to be one twue way fundamentalism of one type or another.......

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