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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 8:13:34 AM   
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PTH, I don't know what to say to that other than to echo Angelika's response.

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 8:14:12 AM   
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 No offense to the OP, but.... It brought back a WHOLE lot of unwanted memories :((  Oh well, onward & upward.  Back to Random Polls/Stupidity!

**Edited to thank Holly, Angel & MissM. I'm sorry, didn't mean to bring the party down, it's just that those are MY memories**

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 8:24:49 AM   
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You've nothing to apologise for whatsoever, that's the beauty of these boards. They make people think and we all offer different experiences. Your voice is no less valid x

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 8:34:38 AM   
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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 9:03:45 AM   
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Mom and Dad had this slave late in life(she-39, he-47)...both on their "first" retirement from their careers by the time this slave was 5...so they were old enough to be her grandparents. Dad's parents were dead before she was born, and since Mom's lived 5,000 miles away, we didn't connect but a few times before they were gone as well.
 
since they were old enough to be this slave's grandparents, this slave doesn't have the memories and experiences that many do of two young parents going to work because they had to, to pay the bills.  they were both home---ALL day, until this slave was in junior high school.  they returned to the workforce, as supervisors or consultants in their respective fields, because they wanted to, not because they had to.
 
Mom attended nusing school by way of the Army Nurse Corps Program during WW2.  she graduated 3 months after the war had ended, so didn't see any action.  She didn't need a bachelor's degree to sit for the exam, and never earned one, but was more knowledgable and competent than many nurses with Master's degrees, and was well paid for it.  She retired from nursing 4 years ago, at the age of 77.
 
There was no such thing as synthetic antibiotics at the time she learned nursing...the development of penicillin was recent, and not commonly prescribed yet.  They were taught to be FANATICAL about cleanliness and that while Doctor's practice medicine, they certainly aren't experts regarding every human being on the planet, they are humans that make mistakes just like everyone else, so their educated opinions are just that, educated opinions, not to be treated as gospel from the mouth of a holy man.
 
this slave appreciates very much the passing along of Mom's training and knowledge of nursing to this slave.  she often takes it for granted... she doesn't have to look up many medical terms and words like dicubiti or septicemia, that she immediately heads for an ice pack whenever an injury occurs in the house, that a synthetic pharmaceutical is the LAST remedy to reach for and that not everyone doesn't consider the bed made properly if it lacks "hospital corners".

one of the best things she ever passed along was the knowledge that we are all the same color under our epidermis. 

edited to add:
the only down side to being a student of nursing at a young age came about in kindergarten.  our teacher was going on maternity leave and being replaced, so she introduced to us our new teacher and explained that she would be leaving because she had a baby in her stomach.  this slave's hand went up and told her that she was wrong.  "the baby isn't in your stomach, it is in your UTERUS."
 
sex education wasn't part of the kindergarten curriculum, so they were a little taken aback.

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 9:21:24 AM   
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My paternal grandfather taught all the girls in the family how to give hand jobs.


Hotty..your ability to post this says that you have faced and dealt with a horrific experience. I salute your courage.


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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 10:17:16 AM   
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The name is...............POTTY!!

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 10:39:26 AM   
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Sorry Hottie. And as said, even though it wasn't good you shared it anyway. That took some guts, Thank you.

It was bound to happen that someone was going to come up with some bad memories, that is the nature of life. Let that be a lesson to all of us who have had our lives richened by our "oldsters" just how lucky we are.

At this point I would like to widen the criteria. It doesn't have to be your Grandparent, just someone old enough to be one. Anyone who held your interest enough to hear some tales about life in the old days. It's only fair because there are quite a few people out there who never knew their Granparents, or have bad memories.

That way I can include olman Freidl down the street. One day I was going down there to dump some grass clippings or foliage or something. See they live at the end of the street and there is a hill at the end of the street. They are very picky as to what they will let you throw down there, but when doing yard work it's like having a free dump at the end of the street.

Anyway he's got his rabbit cages out, he was throwing them out as he figured he would not need them anymore. He told me that during the depression they raised rabbits for meat. The discussion was interesting but it was a couple of years ago so my memory is spotty.

Family wise they own two houses at the end of the street. He told me that he was born next door, and to this house he is in now is as far as he ever moved in his life. His son bought the house in which his Father was born and lives there, and unlike most people who come to this neighborhood, has been well able to keep the place and not go into default. I quipped "Well I guess Jim can say the same thing" (his son). It's true, the only time he moved was to next door. He bought the house off an Uncle or some other family member and he shows no signs of wanting to move.

The kid (he is only a few years younger than me) doesn't have alot of earning power but is a hard worker. When he was younger he developed a route collecting cans. Even working he has never given it up. He has a truck but walks to do his can run. Nextdoor and I are hardcore beer drinkers, I see him every Thursday. I don't know about you, but if I have something to drive I do not walk. He does.

Hard working people with ethics, I hope they never move. The olman is getting old, and now I am thinking that when I see him outside next time I am going to have to pump him for some more stories. He is in his eighties, but if he feels good enough to go outside he should be up to it.

Of course I may run into the problem of getting him to stop :-) It's OK, I'll just make sure to bring along a couple of beers.

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 10:51:12 AM   
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Ahh, much better! :) Thank you, OP!
I remember an older man at the church I used to go to...he was a Deacon, in his late 80's. He told me some stories about growing up in his time/that he knew, "Mary McLeod Bethund"  http://www.lkwdpl.org/wihohio/beth-mar.htm.  He was a wealth of information and a true joy to be around. I enjoyed knowing him.  I've since left that church/lost contact w/him but I just can't imagine the world w/o him in it, but if he did pass away, I imagine him in a world that's treating him as fairly and nicely as he treated the world.

God Speed, Deacon Murphy!!

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 12:35:28 PM   
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I have no intention of hijacking my own thread, but I think this merits mention.

When I started this thread I had not given one iota of thought to the fact that it could evoke bad memories in some people. That is until Hottie came along.

Now I am thinking about how many people out there are hurt by this, bringing back things that they were supposedly over. People without the guts to post. Hey, it is not a requirement of life to put your past on the internet. And with 20/20 hindsight I can see that those who do not post might see this as those of us with the good fortune putting it in their face so to speak.

And it's even worse than that, there are people around who were sexually abused by parents, uncles, who knows. There are alot of bad memories out there. There are people who were physically abused back when society deemed it acceptable. They had nowhere to turn.

These are true though, and while I never meant to open up this can of worms (I didn't know I had that BIG of a can opener) I have done so. But so far the topic seems to have been flameproof and I appreciate how people have respected it. But to be fair if someone would like to recount some negative experiences we would have to welcome that. Reference the word in the title, it doesn't say good Grandparents.

Hottie, this applies to you, if you would like to elaborate on that situation go right ahead. I started this thread looking for truths and therefore I must take the good, the bad and the ugly. If you think elaborating on those bad experiences might be good for you, by all means do so. Remember where you are, yes, every word is searchable, but nobody ever knows who wrote it unless they have some serious IT skills and some connections. Unless you tell them.

As such, I will now caripulate (not sure the meaning here but what I mean is to do as I say). There is something negative.

Paul T sired my Mother. He was never a Father to her and was very abusive. I will not give the name because that would give out my Mother's maiden name and that is a nono on the net. He was a drunk, and a bad one. I drink but I don't beat people up, especially those I am supposed to love.

He was so bad that my Grandmother told me that if she broke a yolk in one of his eggs in the morning he would beat her up. If anything wasn't right he would beat her up. She did have to put him out of course, but then had to raise two daughters without any help from him. My would be Aunt (Mother's sister) died of water on the brain at a very young age. Grandma told me that she had to measure the baby's head every day.

I can't lay that death at Paul T's feet, but he certainly made a bad situation worse. My Mother expressed to me that if she happened by him laying in the street on fire she would pretty much watch him burn or possibly look for something flammable.

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 12:57:19 PM   
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***Edited out all the bad stuff to keep on topic***

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 1:14:23 PM   
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Um... back to topic?

My paternal granparents were dead before I was born.  My maternal grandfather was very ill for as long as I can remember, and my maternal grandmother is now in a nursing home with Alzheimer's .



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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 1:15:45 PM   
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Um... back to topic?

My paternal granparents were dead before I was born.  My maternal grandfather was very ill for as long as I can remember, and my maternal grandmother is now in a nursing home with Alzheimer's .





Sorry, was just responding to the OP. By all means, back to topic! :))

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 4:03:13 PM   
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My paternal grandfather taught all the girls in the family how to give hand jobs.


fuck.  *hugs to hotty*  i'm sorry, love.

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 4:06:47 PM   
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My paternal grandfather taught all the girls in the family how to give hand jobs.


It's so nice when the elder generation pitches in and helps the younger learn a marketable skill

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 4:38:18 PM   
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My maternal grandmother was awesome in her younger days.  She would spend hours upon hours telling me how her mother had died when she was born, and her father died shortly afterward of small pox.  She was adopted by some family member of hers (that i can never remember).  My grandmother got married very early in life, and was married into a pretty harsh family.  Her husband was an alcoholic who was abusive and cheated on her with everyone he could... She divorced him (with 2 children by him) in the early 1940's.  She met a man who become completly and utterly devoted to her and her two children. She worked in orphanages and what not doing things most people would not even dream of, let alone consider. She also worked more hours in a day than not. She was a single parent for about 8 years.  She was one of the most positive relationships i had in my life.
My maternal grandfather (her 2nd husband) was  a blast.... Although, truth be told he was very sick the last 10 or more years of his life..So, most of my 'fondest' memories are of times when my sister's and i would get into trouble for laughing too much...
My paternal grandfather died before i was born.... Which, is sad, because he was apparently th eonly person whom my father respected in his family... *wonders to self how different life would have been if he had been alive*.  My paternal grandmother was an evil, awful, hateful person.  i will confess (and admit) that the day that she died, my sister and i sang "ding dong the witch is dead" and laughed....
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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 7:53:05 PM   
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Thanks for coming jenn.

If you didn't know my paternal Granmother you might say the same thing. She was very outspoken, and that is the understatement of the millenium. She pulled no punches.She was German. Gramps was a Polack. Their Parents were all leary of the marriage because of that, that form of racism. Now maybe people can see what I mean, if their Parents had their way, those two would have never married. That is the way it was.

Grandma as I said, was very outspoken. Even to Grampa. He was hard of hearing and she would lower her voice and give us some of the best rush hour freeway driving language possible in English. He did not hear her. We did. Nobody ever said a word. In this family the children, once able to talk were supposed to know what words are not used in polite company, and when it was just family, there was no prestense whatsoever that this was polite company. Another understatement I might add.

I mentioned I used to go there and Grampa and I would take things apart, try to fix them, figure out how things work and are put together. He liked to work on sewing machines, and back then there were alot of them out there and yes they were used. They wanted these things to work and he found out they would pay.

He was an accomplished job shop machinist, which means he could work from a print unsupervised and make the part. That came after a certain experience however. It was in the early 1950s sometime I think. He worked at a knitting mill. I believe they were Lyons machines and every mill in the country who bought these had problems with them. His place of employment as well of course.

Well someone apparently noticed the lack of complaints from this company because the manufacturer of the machines took notice. They made him an offer, if he would come and show them at the factory, what he did to make these machines work, he could write his own ticket, literally.

I knew him and I think he was thinking 'OK, fly over there, eat in restaraunts, big pain in the ass' , he told them $500 a day. They paid it, and all his expenses for a week. He made $2,500 in a week before I was ever born. Of course that was only one week but think of it.

When a Man like that talks you listen.

Not Grandma though.

One day Grandpa and I were walking back up from the basement and he had given me a cigar box full of radio tubes to try in something I had at home. He was saying that he wanted the cigar box back and Grandma tore into him. "You old ___ fucking bastard, let the kid have the fucking cigar box, Jesus Christ". If you want to know the missing word get me on the other side.

But Grandma was a trip. She would confuse me with the dog. They had a dog named Godfrey and my name was Jeffrey. For some reason she had a problem seperating the two. Sometime when she called for Godfrey we both looked at her like "what". Godfrey was a small terrier and had the exact personality you would expect. He wanted that ball and dammit he didn't care, he wanted that ball. Sometimes we played with him being under the couch, and after a certain amount of growth he could no longer slip under the front so had to go around.

How did he get under the couch ? Simple, Grandma yelled "Who shit in the basement ?".

I am not making this shit up, if I could do that I would either be a best selling author or in an insane asylum somewhere. Or both.

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 8:11:50 PM   
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One quick story.  My maternal grandparents made bootleg beer during prohibition.  They stored it in their garage ... their TIN garage, in south Texas, in the summer.  The bottles were sealed with corks.  Bottles, corks, carbonated alcohol, summer heat, metal building.  They said it sounded like machine guns and scared them to death!  And the worst of it was -no beer!

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 8:24:29 PM   
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  I love old people. I grew up around alot of them, as my Grandparents lived in a retirement community, and we visited often. I now take care of old people, I have to- karma's a bitch, and I want to be lovingly cared for in my later years. I have taken care of hospice patients, as well as alzheimers patients. Disease and meds make for the ability to forget you just ate, as well as remember in vivid detail, an incident from 70 yrs ago. I cared for a wonderful sweet old woman of 95. She grew up in the same area, and lived here her entire life. She was a teacher, and only returned home on weekends, because a horse and buggy made daily trips impossible. They grew cane, and used mules to grind it to syrup. I knew where she lived years ago, so when she spoke of certain places, I could figure out what she was speaking of. I have old pottery ale bottles that were dug up downtown during renovation. These were brought south by train, in the winter, since there was no refrigerated cars. Ice was brought to the icehouse at the same time, for use in home ice boxes. She remembered when the downtown streets were dirt, then brick later. She remembered Al Capone staying in a local motel, that still stands. In the almost 100 years she lived, she saw the world change dramatically- from horse and buggy to internet. She was excellent lunch company, and I'll miss our chats !

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RE: Grandparents - 5/5/2008 8:26:31 PM   
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LOL Ms O, were they "shooting" for a Darwin award ?

Sorry I couldn't resist.

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