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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/4/2008 8:31:41 PM   
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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/4/2008 8:32:17 PM   
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1. Take away everyone’s clothes
2. Give everyone a gun

Result> 
Within a few short weeks, all the assholes will have been shot dead and there will be nothing left to fight over because we can all see who truly has he biggest dick. 

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/4/2008 8:34:08 PM   
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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/4/2008 8:59:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		1. Set up a individual audit system that controls purchases of items of Luxury. (defined by a set minimal standard of living) Law instituted that says NO LUXURY items over $40 until your audit shows that minimal standard of living. Want that Big Screen TV or $2,000 rims for the car sorry until you show the reciept for Health Insurance you can't buy it. Once you have proven your ability to formulate and keep to a minimal standard of living budget you get to start making your own decissions.

2.Fair Tax act gets passed along with repeal of the income tax and an ammendment that says they cannot reinstitute it  for 100 years, Fixes Social security and medicare funding as well makes them just like any other government budget item. Lack of direct corporate taxes will reverse the outsourcing very quickly.

3. Move the UN headquarters to Hatti (it'll support their island economy entirely) Turn governing of the Island over to the UN let them try to govern it since nobody else seems to be able to handle it.

4. Open up ANWAR, as well as off shore drilling , however for every dollar invested in those wells the Oil company MUST also invest a dollar in Solar, Geothermal, Wind or Tidal energy.

5. Impose financial penalties for real provable corporate corruption, highest level proof conviction results in confiscation of all personal property, to be used as reparations for those harmed. Along with a jail term. (person keeps enough for a modest house in a working class neighborhood and a car when they get out) Bar from management level jobs in publicly traded companies for 10 years after serving sentance.

6. Shift all public schools to private schools, issue equal per person checks to all parents, subsidize through grants schools educating those with special needs from the general budget. Variety of programs can be fixed because parents will want to spend their money on different types and levels f education for their children. (although aptitude testing may be required to burst the bubbles of some parents) Uniform reporting of the results of education for every school, publicly posted newspaper and TV every year. Baring that make the checks follow the child to whatever school their parents want to send them to.

7. Treat all health insurance the same as far as taxes, this will bring the insurance company back towards customer service since they no longer have to only think about satisfying the HR dept and the CEO's of companies. The market will then have more real competition based on service driving costs down, thus allowing even more people to buy their own insurance creating even more competition. Handle those still unable to afford it through a medicare type system. (again see item 1 no luxury items until all basic needs are proven met this includes health insurance) Exceptions made for those with chronic conditions that move their rates beyond reasonable budget.



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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/4/2008 9:26:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damn John, it sounds like you're all about Tough Love. Are you a communist or see Castro as your mentor?

But really, what's out there that needs to be fixed? Most if not all of us are only acting out emotions of primal instinct passed down by nature.

Power, Control, Greed, Security, Desire, Making everyone see things our way, are characteristics found in just about every organisim on earth. Haven't you ever studied on the 7 sins?

I read a Bumper Sticker the other day that read

The world would be easy if everyone would read the manual

 http://www.featurepics.com/image/image21833.aspx

But who knows what's really going to make the world or atleast Humanity perfect?

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/4/2008 9:47:45 PM   
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My countrymen and countrywomen, you have elected me to lead, and lead I shall. I will not let you down, but that does not mean a chicken in every pot or anything of the sort. In fact at times it may mean the lack of a chicken in your pot.

Hard times are coming, and right now, I, as the leader am saying pretty much let's take our medicine sooner rather than later, and try to do better in the long run. So this we must do. Forget about the new plasmaTV unless you are well to do. Do not finance anything right now. Work with me and I will work with you.

I am cutting all aid off to Israel and shutting down about 80 military bases. This is going to result in a bit of bad blood, especially after Iraq, but we are not going to abandon Iraq. We will try to rebuild for them that which we destroyed, but it will never happen. But they would be much happier if we just put something back and got the hell out of there. That is what we are gong to do.

We are closing the borders. That is it. And it doesn't matter much because alot of social programs will be ending very soon. They might not want to come here. But you and I, people who know what it means to work, we will keep more of what we earned. That is what I am talking about dammit, the fruits of your labor belong to you.

The IRS will be gone, but not quite right away. Let that money roll in for about a year after we stop giving it all away. Let's count it.

If I am tasked with this great responsibility, there is another problem which must be addressed immediately. After I make these changes, the dollar will not be worth dirt anywhere else. There is no getting out of it. It is already happening, so we might as well take our own proactive action and at least cushion our fall. This is best for all.

We must again become self sufficient. We need farmers and factory workers, engineers and whatever, skilled people. Focus on building, because we have alot of that to do.

And when you elected me you elected my morals. Morally I cannot deny help to those in the world who we have hurt. Slow but sure Iraq will be back or her feet, but she will not be angry with us, at least not as much.

There is the possibility of civil war, we diffuse that by dividing the country into provinces. They can each govern their own territory but might learn to operate collectively when it comes to national matters, and if not, there is not much more we can do.

And you might remember that I never mentioned gas prices ? Well I am now. Gasprices are ridiculous, especially when they were cackling about how good things were going in Iraq. I intend to find out where all that FUCKING money went. And I want it back for us, the people from whom is was stolen.

Watch for a whole lot of rich people to move out of the country, because when they profiteer off of the American people it makes me want to go for the jugular. I want every crooked contractor, and the people who made their six hundred dollar hammers, in jail.

I want every crook who rips off our people in jail. And this administration is going to be looking at all the books we can find from the previous administrations. Everything will be scrutinized.

And then by executive order or committee, whatever is better at the time, I am going to make it illegal for any elected official to take a gift of more than about a thousand dollars unless it is from someone that is like in their family. We are shutting down the two party process. It is over.

Lobbying is bribery and you go to jail, there is a good time to call your congressman.

BOOM

'Outside a convenience store in Cleveland Ohio, a bomb went off, killing President Term and a few other people. A spokesman for Al Quahid Badid El Riffico claimed responsibility for the attack, but the Preseident had just met with that group two days earlier and came back with a tentative peace treaty and trade agreement. An Arab expert and translator commented that this spokesman sounded like Arab was not his first language.

The translator was later found with his hands cuffed to two trees by rope, pulled tight, with his internal organs removed. The death has been ruled a suicide'.

Does this "FOSTER" any memories for anyone ?

I know a couple of things. Need evidence ? It's right here. I have survived. I am convinced that choosing my friends carefully was instrumental in that, and I am equally sure that carefully choosing my enemies was instrumental in that.

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 4:00:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would make it illegal for politicians to accept money from anyone to run a campaign.  I would also prohibit them from using their own money.   Anyone running for office will have a sum of money provided by the govt to run for office.  When its gone its gone. 

To me the "You owe me" system is most of this country's problem.  Its why the politicians won't touch big oil, big pharmacy or any major contributor to their campaigns. 

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 7:29:20 AM   
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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 7:30:59 AM   
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I am so very glad that most people here will never be in any form of political power.


You never know for sure.

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 7:36:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		So you propose the government be in charge of giving money out to those that are interested in running the government? Do you not see an inherant flaw in that logic?


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I would make it illegal for politicians to accept money from anyone to run a campaign.  I would also prohibit them from using their own money.   Anyone running for office will have a sum of money provided by the govt to run for office.  When its gone its gone. 

To me the "You owe me" system is most of this country's problem.  Its why the politicians won't touch big oil, big pharmacy or any major contributor to their campaigns. 


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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 9:16:28 AM   
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So you propose the government be in charge of giving money out to those that are interested in running the government? Do you not see an inherant flaw in that logic?


Yes don't expect politicians ever to demonstrate qualities and attitudes that threaten their funding

In the UK donations to political parties over a certain threshold have to be declared; that way in theory when people decide to elect a party they can take that parties funding into account at the time. They probably have something similar in the US I would have thought. The system in the UK isn’t perfect and there have been high profile cases of millionaires funding the government through third parties such as employees. It’s funny to see an employee on 20K a year suddenly paying in that amount to a political party in one day.


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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 9:21:04 AM   
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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 1:13:19 PM   
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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 1:21:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		1. Pass the Fair Tax Act.
2. limit all of congress to two terms
3. Require a 2/3 majority to pass laws and only a simple majority to remove laws.
4. Line item veto
5. remove all victumless laws (such as prostitution and drug laws)
6. close the borders and reduce to a mininum immegration for 20 years to give those already here a chance to assimulate

Dom Woolf

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 1:24:16 PM   
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5. remove all victumless laws (such as prostitution and drug laws)


Those laws aren’t victimless.

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 1:59:13 PM   
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The following is a reworking of a rant I posted some time ago.

The opinions expressed in the following rant are subject to change without notice.

On the domestic front:

Eliminate the Federal Reserve.
Eliminate Social Security.
Eliminate Medicade.
Eliminate Medicare.
Eliminate all the pork barrel projects.
Eliminate all the corporate research projects masquerading as "scientific" studies.
Eliminate the Department of Education.
Eliminate the EEOC
Eliminate funding for the arts.
Eliminate the minimum wage.
Eliminate a whole bunch of government shit that I could spend fifteen pages listing.


Government exists to pave our roads, deliver the mail, throw the bad guys in prison, and defend the country – nothing else (and I’m not even sure about deliver the mail).

Eliminate the IRS. Then pound a wooden stake in it’s heart just to be sure.

New Tax code: ten percent of all your income belongs to Uncle Sam (how much you pay to your state and local governments is between you an them). Got a paycheck for five hundred dollars? Fifty of it goes to Uncle Sam. Sold a stock for a profit of ten thousand dollars? Uncle Sam get a thousand. Sold your house for seventy thousand more than you paid for it? Uncle Sam gets seven thousand (okay, I’d probably allow indexing for inflation). Inherited twenty million dollars? Fork over two million to Uncle Sam. Found a five dollar bill on the street. Be sure to give Uncle Sam his fifty cents.

Not quite.

First we get to deduct expenses for food, clothing, housing (mortgage and/or rent), health care, and education plus ten percent to the charity of our choice. Whatever’s left over is for Uncle Sam. If it’s not enough for him he’ll have to tighten his belt and live within a budget like the rest of us. In fact, new law – except during a time of war (actual, declared by Congress war) or national catastrophe, it is illegal for the government to have a deficit. Not only that, the government will put one percent of it’s revenue into a savings account to be used whenever a natural disaster (i.e. flood, hurricane) leaves a bunch of people homeless and in need of quick helping hand back up.

Fence off the border and man it with a competent security force – we have enough domestically produced assholes, we don’t need to import them.

Increase domestic drilling for oil so we can tell OPEC to go fuck itself (plus it will create more jobs here).

On the foreign front:

An orderly withdraw of our forces from around the world. Tell Iran that if they want a nuke then go ahead an get one but remind them that we already have lots of nukes – sitting on top of missiles that can strike anywhere in the world. Conduct a few nuke tests just to get the point across. Maybe even lob one of those missiles – minus the nuke of course – into the middle of downtown Tehran to really get the point across.

Trade policy: Free trade with any free market republic willing to reciprocate. Ten percent tariff on all trade with nations that are not free market republics (Great Britain doesn’t count as a republic, does it? Well... I’d be willing to make an exception for them – but only because they gave the world Shakespeare).

I could go on and on but it is almost five o’clock which means it’s time for me to stop goofing off at work and go home and take a nap. Besides, this should be enough to give a few people around here conniption fits.



< Message edited by Marc2b -- 5/5/2008 2:01:02 PM >

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 7:23:07 PM   
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1. Pass the Fair Tax Act.
2. limit all of congress to two terms
3. Require a 2/3 majority to pass laws and only a simple majority to remove laws.
4. Line item veto
5. remove all victumless laws (such as prostitution and drug laws)
6. close the borders and reduce to a mininum immegration for 20 years to give those already here a chance to assimulate

Dom Woolf



2 and 4 haven't been without problems when tried at the local level. 

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 8:50:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Archer: "4. Open up ANWAR, as well as off shore drilling , however for every dollar invested in those wells the Oil company MUST also invest a dollar in Solar, Geothermal, Wind or Tidal energy. "

How much oil is in ANWR?

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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 8:56:33 PM   
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RE: How would you "FIX" the country or world - 5/5/2008 10:57:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hippie I know the reserves proven in ANWAR are not large. I could google the barrel count but I find it tedious and counter productive. Enough to make it profitable and reduce some of the importation needed to make ends meet. If you focus on the first part and ignore the second then we can't get anywhere.
The carrot is ANWAR and off shore, the stick is alternative energy investment. The real trick is in the "MUST INVEST EQUAL dollars in ..."




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