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mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:00:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
So, I imagine, some guys like it.  Hell, there is a never ending string of sub replacements that are all new, have rapture and probably good to milk a relationship out of for several months or even a year or two.  A passel of poly Stepford slaves at our call. 

It’s not for me, but that is what you girls are up against.  Men are men… I too am guilty of hunting that which I didn’t plan to eat (keep) for trophies until I learned how to recognize quality.  I think that attitude comes as standard issue with a cock.


You know, last night I was going to say this exact thing but I thought if I were to imply that the problem is, at least in part, due to the genitalia I would probably be drawn and quartered. I don't think that it is an exclusive problem of the male though as females could drastically reduce the sheer numbers of these kind of guys if they exercised a little control over their own.




mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:09:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
"on your knees bitch" does work absolutely.  In fact, all sorts of stupid shit works.

When I first started into BDSM chatrooms were fairly new and I used to get women all the time with nothing more than "on your knees bitch"

On some level, that is still my approach.


Michael, thank you for your honesty. I'd like to ask if at that time, was it about getting laid for you....or did you think it was a good way to find people you wanted to consider for the long term?

While it may still be your approach on some level, it's definitely not on the same level I am talking about here. You are one of the most insightful people here and I love to read your thoughts. You reach a level of honesty about yourself that most people could never go to.




mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:17:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arrrchibald
I hardly ever bring up BDSM in an initial email.  And I've received plenty of replies calling me a fake dom for not talking about the lifestyle right off the bat. 

The reigning champion so far:  "yeah wutever, u think ur dom but ur fag." 

I'd say "kneel bitch" seems pretty appropriate for those subs. 


I know your right. I've seen those mails that my dominant friends or even the dominants I have been with get those kind of comments too.

Sir and I get a good laugh when he gets those kind of comments. I like to throw it out there when he's whipping the snot out of me, "Ow, hey you can't do that you big fake Dom you!".




mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:19:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
There are also quite a number of 'supposed' s types who are not 'submissive' but rather too carried away with fantasy and if someone isn't doing the 'kneel bitch brigade' crap then they react badly/impolitely.


Well I certainly can't disagree with that....there is evidence of it everywhere you look.




Griswold -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:21:04 AM)

"Just add Domme"




lronitulstahp -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:29:45 AM)

Just add water and flog...Voila instant slave!  i guess it's like cooking...one can swallow and hold down instant mashed potatoes...but we all know the difference between them and good homemade stuff.  So an instant D/s relationship might satiate some hunger, but it won't be the really filling and satisfying thing that a well planned and worked out one can be....




TysGalilah -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:32:26 AM)

Erin
 
  It might be a reoccurring theme  and/or topic, but still intriguing ( to me ) .
  I, personally, think it has to be more than justabout sub-frenzy or insecure ignorant assholes.  Granted, that is the case sometimes, but I think there is something about the "mind-set" that is in play when the d-type says it and when the s-type hears it, that makes it effective.
 
  ResidentSadist said :
  "First of all, I am dead sexy and if you don't get wet on our first date and aren’t having multiple orgasms by our second date, I failed my job.  "
 
....now that's just freakin hot..
 
I'm NOT in sub-frenzy ...I'm a collared submissive and so not searching or feeling like I have to respond a certain way to be submissive.  But there was a twang that went off  inside me when I read it.
 
   It's something about the self-awareness...self-confidence..knows what he wants and likes and knows how to express it>  it just plucks at the highpitched string on my emotional guitar.
 
  Tyson has that...knew how to use it, still uses it....
its just this side of arrogance and cocky..he doesn't cross the line and it feels like to me > the warmest place of safety and sexy to me at the same time.
  He knows himself.  Has no problem asserting his desires and when he gets like that, can "grab my hear" from 3000 miles away with a simple sentence conveyed in that mood/tone/mind-set.
 
ok I need to stop
[8D]
 
anyway,  so I vote  ( we are voting right? )  on it being more than about  ignorant frenzying s-types and  idiot player d-types.
 
Cyndi
 




MladyHathor -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:48:07 AM)

Well erin, if you've speny anytime perving the sites that roll by on the left nav when at our CM home page, that will tell you exactly where the behavior comes from---one too many hours rewinding xxx fantasies.
 
Sad but true Me thinks.
 
 
 




mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:50:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TysGalilah
  ResidentSadist said :
  "First of all, I am dead sexy and if you don't get wet on our first date and aren’t having multiple orgasms by our second date, I failed my job.  "
 
....now that's just freakin hot..
 
I'm NOT in sub-frenzy ...I'm a collared submissive and so not searching or feeling like I have to respond a certain way to be submissive.  But there was a twang that went off  inside me when I read it.


Oh trust me, I felt a "twang" too when I read it. I think my "twang" went off a little lower than yours though [;)]. Hot sex is just that to me though...hot sex. It doesn't equate to Dominance or submission. Just because a guy succeeds in turning me on enough to get to the point of jumping in bed with him doesn't mean that we have crossed that bridge....not even if that roll in the hay includes BDSM. You don't have to be dominant to dominate a clitoris. To get to the submission you have to go a lot deeper inside of me than 8 inches.




mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:51:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MladyHathor

Well erin, if you've speny anytime perving the sites that roll by on the left nav when at our CM home page, that will tell you exactly where the behavior comes from---one too many hours rewinding xxx fantasies.
 
Sad but true Me thinks. 


Actually, I've never been to any of them....didn't even know they were there to be honest until you just told me. Maybe I will have to check them out...lol.




Dnomyar -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:56:03 AM)

There are women on here that will tell you straight out that they want to get fucked. It is more common than you think. So what. There are assholes on here also. So what. If you are on CM how can you judge someone else. But a lot on here do. So what. If you have high morals go back to church and repent for being on here in the first place.




happypervert -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 4:56:41 AM)

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some of these submissives here who jump right in blind, head first, fully bound who post here crying after the fact. "I did it because he told me to and he is a DOM".

They are cut from the same mold as the dumb cunts who meet some guy in a bar who claims to be a Hollywood producer, and after sucking his cock in a back alley they are *shocked* when they don't find themselves cast in a movie with Tom Cruise a few days later. I'll bet they are posting about their betrayal on a celebrity stalker message board somewhere.

Anyway, I don't think sub frenzy explains it -- but somebody was spot on when they said "There's a sucker born every minute" . . . and lucky for us some of those suckers boast of their experiences here!






TysGalilah -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 5:15:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: TysGalilah
  ResidentSadist said :
  "First of all, I am dead sexy and if you don't get wet on our first date and aren’t having multiple orgasms by our second date, I failed my job.  "
 
....now that's just freakin hot..
 
I'm NOT in sub-frenzy ...I'm a collared submissive and so not searching or feeling like I have to respond a certain way to be submissive.  But there was a twang that went off  inside me when I read it.


Oh trust me, I felt a "twang" too when I read it. I think my "twang" went off a little lower than yours though [;)]. Hot sex is just that to me though...hot sex. It doesn't equate to Dominance or submission. Just because a guy succeeds in turning me on enough to get to the point of jumping in bed with him doesn't mean that we have crossed that bridge....not even if that roll in the hay includes BDSM. You don't have to be dominant to dominate a clitoris. To get to the submission you have to go a lot deeper inside of me than 8 inches.

 
gigglin
  singin ...my twangs lower than your twang..my twangs lower than yours...lalalalalal
 
  and why do I have the Oscar Meyer weiner song running through the back of my mind now?
[;)]
 
point taken tho'  ..
I don't think I was making a case ,necessarily, for "dropping to the proverbial submissive floor"  upon hearing these demands or commands.  I agree, takes more for submission than what plucks or twangs us......but it still makes for a reaction and an indicator>> which is why I think some s-types respond and some d-types use it.
    like one of those  metal-detectors  that go off when you get close to it.    Doesn't guarantee its precious metal or valuable...but it consisted of something that set off the "ding ding" ..
  did I just call myself a ding ding??
 
anyway...
 
 off to work.. You made me smile this morning......thanks!
 hugz
 
[sm=flowers.gif]
 
Cyndi
 




summersprite -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 6:14:22 AM)

I'm very new here, but I come with a fair amount of common sense and wisdom that my age allows me to have... and yes, the messages I get from Doms I've never had any contact with before are astoundingly stupid for the most part.... an example received tonight....
 
"i am seeking a sub slave girl to train and own as my sex slave. apply with your self pic an dyou must have mic to prove your self on msn or yahoo voice"
 
The least one of these idiot doms could do is check my profile first.... I am already owned.... and very happy ;-)
 
So I hope he wasn't surprised to find in his inbox of messages, 'Oh Fuck Off you fake bastard'




SimplyMichael -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 7:09:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
"on your knees bitch" does work absolutely.  In fact, all sorts of stupid shit works.

When I first started into BDSM chatrooms were fairly new and I used to get women all the time with nothing more than "on your knees bitch"

On some level, that is still my approach.


Michael, thank you for your honesty. I'd like to ask if at that time, was it about getting laid for you....or did you think it was a good way to find people you wanted to consider for the long term?

While it may still be your approach on some level, it's definitely not on the same level I am talking about here. You are one of the most insightful people here and I love to read your thoughts. You reach a level of honesty about yourself that most people could never go to.


Erin, it was about a lot of things, getting laid far above long term relationship. 

Some women WANT to be taken, WANT to be forced and discovering how to do that safely and healthily takes time and will vary with who you have for a partner.  I still don't negotiate, I still don't make a big deal about limits although in my own way I do both.  There are women I want that it doesn't work for and, lucky for us both, it works for BSB and I although we are still working in the kinks...




LadyPact -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 7:19:54 AM)

No offense to the intent of the OP, but I would like to bring up one little point.

In all of My time on CM, I've only received one email that said, "On your knees".  I attribute this to the fact that I've been lucky enough that ultimate stupidity has only reached Me once, nothing more.

However, in that same amount of time, I've received literally thousands of emails from both males and females, who were willing to submit to Me before ever having known Me any better than the man on the moon. 

In the short answer, yes, folks think if you send out enough emails with an approach, any approach, to enough people, it might just work sooner or later.




MadRabbit -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 9:05:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
I still don't negotiate,


Negotiation is for chumps [:D]




mzbehavin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 9:21:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Yup, I think that there are tons of women out there who just want to kneel at the feet of someone...anyone...and they flop themselves down in front of anyone who requests or demands them to.

So before we jump all over the guys and lay the full weight of responsibility at their feet, I think we also need to say thanks to some of our own kind for liberally fueling the fire of these guys.


I just think these girls are new and dont know any better. They'll take their knocks and learn healthy parameters, just like we all did.




mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 9:29:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mzbehavin

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Yup, I think that there are tons of women out there who just want to kneel at the feet of someone...anyone...and they flop themselves down in front of anyone who requests or demands them to.

So before we jump all over the guys and lay the full weight of responsibility at their feet, I think we also need to say thanks to some of our own kind for liberally fueling the fire of these guys.


I just think these girls are new and dont know any better. They'll take their knocks and learn healthy parameters, just like we all did.



New? New at what? Living life as an adult? New at this "lifestyle"? I do not understand why any woman with even half a shred of common sense would allow someone to compromise themselves, their integrity or their personal boundaries just because they are playing on a different playground.

But given what you said, yes, indeed some of them are "new". A lot of them are not.




mistoferin -> RE: A recurring theme...instant submission expected (5/6/2008 9:32:05 AM)

Gosh, if all of these dominants were to start pointing toward the ocean, would submissives all get in line like lemmings and jump off the cliffs?

Brains are there for a reason.




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