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While I agree that the term "forced bi" is typically a misnomer, your logic doesn't work. The fact that one person enjoys something does not mean that everyone does.
There are, solely in my opinion two reasons why someone would enter into a 'forced bi' position and neither have anything to do with 'forced', firstly they are actually bi and secondly they are bi but can't admit they are bi, therefore hiding behind 'forced' as in 'she made me do it' is the perfect 'mental crutch' for it.
I defy anyone to tell me they have been in a real true to life 'forced bi' situation because a) that's actually rape and b) whose going to make a trully hetrosexual man (such as myself) perform a bi-act? No amount of love or dominations going to make that happen.
It's just how I see it...
it's basically just a widespread misconception as i understand it. i'm going to loosely quote an older post in part of this reply to save time. forced bi doesn't mean consentual rape, or that someone can force a change in orientation, only force the sexual acts in and of itself. the person forcing it however is only themself. surely there is also no doubt many latent bisexuals partake in the notions of "forced bi" to help them come to terms with it easier.
however the mistake you are making is thinking this term is to define a situation where someone else is forcing it upon you. the concept of forced bi doesn't insinuate a commonly misinterpreted scenario where there exists a lack of choice such as rape, such a case would simply be called rape. it more closely insinuates that at the behest of another, or simply for reasons outside a person's own desires, a person will force themselves to do it, or force themselves to allow its occurence despite their sexual orientation or inhibitions actively discouraging them from going through with it.
to those that enjoy subjecting others to this act, rather than feed off the idea helplessness of another such as the case in rape, the motivations in their amusement comes from rather observing or appreciating the internal struggles and mind play at work regarding a person's doubt, uneasiness, and disdain for the affair, but seeing them follow through with it anyway. a large part of the situation to that individual will surely still feel forced given that, when you concern yourself so highly as to what someone asks of you, you will feel pressured in doing it, commonly referred to as peer pressure. peer pressure is not necessarily giving into an indulgence or pleasurable thing, it's having other people influence your actions in anything, in any way, period. a thought process is likely to be expected to occur within the consenting individual, who is surely conflicted with the sexuality issues involved, (especially initially) along the lines of "you're not really going to make me go through with this are you?".
it's sort of like forcing yourself to swallow something you find repulsive, forcing yourself to get up in the morning, forcing yourself to sit still when someone is inserting a needle in your arm, forcing yourself to stop eating, or dare i bring up euthanasia? depending what your concerns are, and especially how concerned you are about them, whether it's something like maintaining health, or simply holding yourself to an obligation of carrying out a request from a particular, your willpower to follow through with such things will be tested.
if you don't like apples, and your doctor says, "eat apples", how much you concern yourself with their request is tested against your willpower and either produces, or lacks a result.
same concept on the other end.
if you don't like men, and your mistress or domme says, "have sex with a man", how much you concern yourself with her request is tested against your willpower and either you do it, or you do not.
don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that a person possessing limits means their intent isn't as sincere as someone else's to please or serve another, it merely states how far you're willing to go in order to achieve that goal. this is why people match up respectively according to their interests so that such things are not likely to ever be tested, or cause problem.
the clear truth is that so many of the things we do in life is among things we either force ourselves to do, or force ourselves to endure. though we so often dislike these things that we force ourselves to do, we allow them to happen or otherwise actively take part in them, not because we want to, but basically because we are told to and then are left with two simple choices, comply or defy.
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"whose going to make a trully hetrosexual man (such as myself) perform a bi-act?" No amount of love or dominations going to make that happen.
a gun to the head or a large enough sum of money would of course do the trick for most, but in a case such as bdsm the request from an certain individual can simply be enough for some people, yet in all these cases (even the gun to the head) "who is going to make them do it" is the same, it's the heterosexual man. it's not like doing anything impossible for all people to perform such as a backflip, anyone with a mouth can put a dick in it. physically it's easy, emotionally it is not, that is what is forced about it, that is what people get out of it; internal conflict and struggle.
it's not being forced upon you, you are forcing it.
don't think of it like being a rape victim, think of it like a prostitute forcing herself to have sex with people she doesn't want to.
< Message edited by hopelesslyInvo -- 5/7/2008 4:40:08 AM >
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