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lizcgirl -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/7/2008 1:59:49 PM)
Nothing. Point blank. I owe my Daddy all that I am because that is what I offered Him. But just some random guy I chatted with for a few days who I have not given myself to? I owe him a swift kick in the nuts, nothing more.

ResidentSadist -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/7/2008 11:19:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Insatiable4Black Is it a non-submissive thing to have reaffirmed my refusal, my discomfort and my "limit" of not having phone sex? He doesn't like "being denied". He has now done a 180 degree turn and isn't speaking to me. I don’t get your dilemma… you don’t like him enough to have sex with him verbally on the phone, why would he think you will fuck him in person? I imagine he thinks you don't find him appealing and/or their is no future with you. After investing in weeks of contact, if you don’t want to have sex with him, what is it you do want?

StormsSlave -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/8/2008 4:44:04 AM)
R.S. If she says up front she doesn't want something, he pushes for it and doesn't get it, she still knows what she doesn't want. Why is she wrong for sticking with what she said? Phone sex is a whole lot different then in person sex. I'll loose all respect for you if you don't know the difference, man.

littleone35 -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/8/2008 5:19:11 AM)
Ths guy obviously does not respect you. You told him you would not have phone sex, and he still pushed it. Now that you said you will not do it he is pouting hope you will contat him beg for forgivness and do it for him. You are better off blocking him and not havong anything to do with him As to owing him someting i don't think so. he does not own you. btw what is the big deal about phone sex? Matt's littleone

MasterFireMaam -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/8/2008 5:54:36 AM)
You owe nothing more than what you're willing to give. Whatever level that ends up being, it's the other person's path to deal with it. They have the choice of deciding it's not enough for them...or that it is. Master Fire

Kirren -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/8/2008 6:08:46 AM)
okay...since when is a week considered a giant investment of time? I just dont get that? I mean okay...so sometimes you just know...but...a week? C'mon now. I dont get that at all. Since you know the answer...but want to offer input...thats great by the way...allow Me to toss My two pennies on the table...not that itll get you much... A submissive only owes as much as she is willing to give...if she states that she is not comfortable with something...then that should be a line...that is not to say that after more conversation or time has passed that the line can be moved, adjusted, or simply walked all over. The submissive, the free submissive, only owes one person in her life. herself. she has to be true to what she desires, and seek the compatible mate. If a Dom is willing to delete a profile, well thats great, but lets face it, its not like you have to have a DNA check to make another one, right? And whos to say lil buddy doesnt already have a back up? The whole meeting on the net thing seems to have become some kind of a game for some people...you can demand what you want because some where out there is some one desperate enuff to just hand it over to you...thats jacked up. People dont have a sense of who or what they are any more, so they are willing to comprimise those essential parts of self to satisfy some one who may or may not be what they say that they are. They think speed dating via web cam is the way to go...and in reality you dont get a real picture of the person on the other end until you spend some time in their presence. Phone sex, cyber sex, web cam sex, hell sex in general, does not always equal compatibility in the more important arenas of life and love. I say to and sub or slave that is having an issue like this...to thine own self be true...and when you find the right one be true to them as well...cos the right one doesnt come walkin round the corner every two seconds, and the grass aint always greener on the other side.

Insatiable4Black -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/8/2008 12:54:36 PM)
RS - I cannot see the point of stuffing fingers in my twat while on the phone - as 1) an act of submission and as 2) worth my time. Sexual CONTACT is precisely that.. CONTACT. Jacking off over the phone is sophomoric, at best. There are tons of 900 numbers of that express purpose. I HAVEN'T EVEN MET THE GUY!

Insatiable4Black -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/8/2008 12:55:37 PM)
That was my original point in posting this thread. Thank you. quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam You owe nothing more than what you're willing to give. Whatever level that ends up being, it's the other person's path to deal with it. They have the choice of deciding it's not enough for them...or that it is. Master Fire

Insatiable4Black -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/8/2008 12:57:32 PM)
Your two pennies are well spent. That was a great reply and much appreciated. Thank you for your input and your insight. x quote: ORIGINAL: Kirren okay...since when is a week considered a giant investment of time? I just dont get that? I mean okay...so sometimes you just know...but...a week? C'mon now. I dont get that at all. Since you know the answer...but want to offer input...thats great by the way...allow Me to toss My two pennies on the table...not that itll get you much... A submissive only owes as much as she is willing to give...if she states that she is not comfortable with something...then that should be a line...that is not to say that after more conversation or time has passed that the line can be moved, adjusted, or simply walked all over. The submissive, the free submissive, only owes one person in her life. herself. she has to be true to what she desires, and seek the compatible mate. If a Dom is willing to delete a profile, well thats great, but lets face it, its not like you have to have a DNA check to make another one, right? And whos to say lil buddy doesnt already have a back up? The whole meeting on the net thing seems to have become some kind of a game for some people...you can demand what you want because some where out there is some one desperate enuff to just hand it over to you...thats jacked up. People dont have a sense of who or what they are any more, so they are willing to comprimise those essential parts of self to satisfy some one who may or may not be what they say that they are. They think speed dating via web cam is the way to go...and in reality you dont get a real picture of the person on the other end until you spend some time in their presence. Phone sex, cyber sex, web cam sex, hell sex in general, does not always equal compatibility in the more important arenas of life and love. I say to and sub or slave that is having an issue like this...to thine own self be true...and when you find the right one be true to them as well...cos the right one doesnt come walkin round the corner every two seconds, and the grass aint always greener on the other side.

stella41b -> RE: What does a submissive "owe"? (5/10/2008 3:07:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl he's in Norway but resides in your state - red flag right there for me. i met a dominant from here who claimed to be from my state but lived elsewhere (Ghana) however it didn't take long to figure out he was scammer. Scammer? Been corresponding with a couple of Dommes for a couple of weeks now, but I still can't work out where Lagos is in London. Oh dear.

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