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kickable -> RE: Forced Sessions (5/17/2008 8:51:51 AM)

So, you don't believe something can be both forced and consensual?




Boondoggle -> RE: Forced Sessions (5/17/2008 10:11:58 AM)

My thoughts are generally in line with what Aakasha explained. I love psychological play of all sorts (I've yet to meet a mind-fuck I didn't like) and this definitely falls into that category. Because of this preference, and the level of intimacy and trust it requires, it isn't something I can do casually. However, in the context of a relationship, I absolutely love to give a sort of 'blanket' consent for her to do with me what she will, with the (hopefully obvious) caveat of safewords or other signals to indicate that I need to 'check in,' usually for reassurances, encouragement or even more coercion, but with the option to veto completely if something is too much, for whatever reason. To me, quite clearly in this context, I can be (and have been) forced to do things I otherwise wouldn't.

I also enjoy enforced situations. Things I like, but wouldn't chose to do, and may not particularly enjoy doing at any particular time (which can provide excellent opportunities for humiliation as well).

That said, I also think some people are not comfortable enough with their sexuality to admit their desires and need the pretense of 'force' to be able to express themselves. I view this primarily as unfortunate. I know many women here think that the notion of a male needing to be 'forced' into crossdressing is demeaning and degrading toward their gender. I agree, but I don't think it is generally correct to blame the crossdresser for his societally induced hangups.

In all of these 'cases,' there is clearly consent given, at some level. So are any of these truly forced, "obtained or imposed by coercion or physical power?" By that definition, yes. However, using 'forced' in this fashion also connotes being forced against ones will. Because of consent, this obviously isn't the case. I think it is this last nuance that really ruffles peoples feathers (no offense meant to any feathered people reading this).




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