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1968 - 5/10/2008 3:25:29 PM   
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Why don’t we just vote to strike tonight, and we’ll decide tomorrow what we’re striking for?”

Those were the words of a student protester thoughtfully deliberating at Yale University, as recounted by Roger Kimball in his book on the Left, The Long March. It was a question that captured much of the heedless spirit of the student demonstrations of the 1960s, for which “May 1968” is shorthand.

That spring 40 years ago saw a radical takeover of Columbia University — eventually duplicated at other elite campuses — and student protests around the world. In France, the government was rocked to its foundations; in the Eastern Bloc, a crevice was opened up in the Berlin Wall; and here at home, campus life became synonymous with a straitened leftism, and the post-World War II political consensus shattered.

Before we had our long national nightmare (Watergate), we had our long national temper tantrum. In the U.S., student protests were an indulgence of the privileged, a wail by baby boomer kids raised in unprecedented affluence against the authority of their parents. To accuse of “fascism” a generation that bled in the mud of Normandy fighting the Axis took a massive historical ignorance and overweening self-regard; the New Left had both.


http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDkwODlhNmFlMGExNTNjOWRkMmRkMmNkYWYyNDgyMjU=


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Nineteen sixty-eight was one exciting moment in a much larger movement. It spawned a whole range of movements. There wouldn't have been an international global solidarity movement, for instance, without the events of 1968. It was enormous, in terms of human rights, ethnic rights, a concern for the environment, too.


The Pentagon Papers (the 7,000-page, top-secret US government report into the Vietnam War) are proof of this: right after the Tet Offensive, the business world turned against the war, because they thought it was too costly, even though there were proposals within the government - and we know this now - to send in more American troops. Then LBJ announced he wouldn't be sending any more troops to Vietnam.

The Pentagon Papers tell us that, because of the fear of growing unrest in the cities, the government had to end the war - it wasn't sure that it was going to have enough troops to send to Vietnam and enough troops on the domestic front to quell the riots.

One of the most interesting reactions to come out of 1968 was in the first publication of the Trilateral Commission, which believed there was a "crisis of democracy" from too much participation of the masses. In the late 1960s, the masses were supposed to be passive, not entering into the public arena and having their voices heard. When they did, it was called an "excess of democracy" and people feared it put too much pressure on the system. The only group that never expressed its opinions too much was the corporate group, because that was the group whose involvement in politics was acceptable.


http://www.newstatesman.com/200805080026


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RE: 1968 - 5/10/2008 6:39:53 PM   
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So?

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RE: 1968 - 5/10/2008 7:00:54 PM   
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Why don’t we just vote to strike tonight, and we’ll decide tomorrow what we’re striking for?”



       The funny thing here is that I can easily envision a room where that comes out as a rational statement.  But then, I also laugh much harder than anyone else watching, when Life of Brian is on.

       Thanks for the links, Level. 

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RE: 1968 - 5/10/2008 8:04:13 PM   
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We have discussed this here at home... I currently am boarding with a more liberial Repblican then I though possible.

*chuckles* he compared me to Pat Buchanan last night. I am happy embrasing my conservitiveness. ( is that a word? oh gods am I turning into Lil Bush? ~ love that show)

The college kids, and people in gerneal are not rioting, and protesting because the hot button issues are being pressed.

The gas prices, the GLBT and Black american civil right issues ( two sides of the same coin if you ask me) and the current politcial cycle is sucking all of the air out of the sails of every one.

Not to mention the steady and metholodical dismantaling of the middle class.

Subprime mortgages... OPEC not being put in check. Raising inflation, food prices, gas prices, bloody everything prices...

I ask you this dear friends... What people complain the most to govt?

Why.. The Middle class.

What people are least beholden to the Govt?

The Middle Class.

Lower class take what you are willing to give. Upper class Take what you offer in exchange. Tit for Tat. That is why we have lobbists.

Who is more taxing on the system?

Middle class want new schools, better hospitals, more libararies... more police officers and firemen protecting them.. better roads and infrastructure. The little bastards are never happy.

The govt can not control the *huge* number of middle class.

why not let some of them falter though seemingly "natural" out of thier hands means then?

Caul the numbers down a bit.

The poor rarely protest.. too busy scraping bottom and the very affulent are usualy too busy or raking in the benifits with the govt.

So there my friends is my answer.

Thanks for posting this and making us think.

Gwyn

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RE: 1968 - 5/10/2008 10:07:15 PM   
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I think I prefer the revolutionaries of 1989, myself.

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RE: 1968 - 5/11/2008 12:53:54 AM   
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When I think of social change and 1968, a few things come to mind before the arduous and death defying take over of the dean's office.

Like a certain sanitation strike, a prominent balcony, and people taking their protests out into the streets from Orangeburg to Chicago.

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RE: 1968 - 5/11/2008 1:53:39 AM   
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I lived as an adult thru' 1968 and I clearly remember the student demo's. They all seemed relatively privileged "types" to me
With the exception of withdrawal from Viet Nam I never had any idea of what they were trying to achieve.
The French demo's were particularly mysterious.

Forty years later it seems to me they didnt achieve much anyway; so maybe there was nothing to miss.

adding: in the UK at least, if a division exists between what the body politic says you are going to get and what the majority actually want then the mass aspiriration is dismissed as populist. By implication the issues are just too complicated for the plebs to understand.
Eventually some watered down form of popular sentiment is introduced , the politicos take the credit and continue to proclaim how wonderful is our democracy.
It makes me larf !

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RE: 1968 - 5/11/2008 5:18:28 AM   
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on the mortgage mess. easy.   possession is 9/10 of the law.  problem solved.  :-0


on protests in US.  it wont happen.  people are too addicted to TV.  

mind you.  black outs will be more frequent and longer.  a new coal plant comes online EVERY week in China!   it will one day be not the price of gas, but if there IS ANY!  
Why?   you can not tripple the demand with no effect.    if 3 people want the same parking space, how many get it?  one.  thats life.

also- western life today is the exception, not the rule.  thru out history of man, this period is the blip. not the garantee to the future.

take nothing for granted.

think this is alarmist?  all right. how would you describe long lines after a disaster?   can you buy milk even of the electric goes out? nope the cashier has no clue.

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RE: 1968 - 5/11/2008 11:30:29 AM   
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want to see what happens in the face of the unimaginable?  go back and look at what happened in new orleans and imagine that worldwide.  not a pretty picture!

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