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hands0n0knees -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 6:45:04 AM)

Anyone who objects to ageplay with an argument based upon the illegality of sex with children must surely also object to the use of bondage and pain infliction, for assault and false imprisonment are also prohibited by law.  These are people with deep insecurities and a very tenuous grasp of the distinction between simulation and sincerity.



Deliena -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 7:46:13 AM)

Well to my way of thinking age play and paedophilia are not only not synonyms but they're almost antonyms surely?

After all a paedophile is not going to be satisfied with a mature person inhabiting a younger person persona and a true age player would be unnerved at being approached by a child I would have thought?



Solipsistic -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 9:13:45 AM)

I agree completely with the last two posts.  Ageplay is playing within an adult concept in an adult context.  I am sure plenty of people would find it strange, but I am also sure they would find it a lot less strange than many other typical BDSM fetishes, like edgeplay or caging.

In fact, just think of how common the "naughty schoolgirl" archetype is in western culture.  I am willing to bet that a huge percentage of vanilla partners have tried out ageplay one or more times within this context, and seeing it in pop culture (TV, movies, internet, games, etc) is practically passe.  So how fringe is ageplay, really?





DiurnalVampire -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 9:20:37 AM)

Depending on the extent of the ageplay, it can be quite fringe. Its far more popular between Male Dom and fem sub than it is Fem Domme and male sub. If you reread a number of those 300 returned posts, youll notice that a lot of people DISLIKE age play.

It is not on the list beacsue they havent put it there yet. There are tons of interests that are not represented. There are lifestyles that aresnt. Fur play isnt on there either, but yet there are tons of threads on it. You canot chose to present yourself as a Poly family, yet you can search for one. They are still adding and modifying. To suggest a change, email support.

DV



domahpet -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 9:36:45 AM)

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Anyone who objects to ageplay with an argument based upon the illegality of sex with children must surely also object to the use of bondage and pain infliction, for assault and false imprisonment are also prohibited by law.  These are people with deep insecurities and a very tenuous grasp of the distinction between simulation and sincerity.


maybe more closed minded than insecure, but this is very good



azropedntied -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 10:29:20 AM)

Why is it not part of a check list here ? Why are Many other things missing from a check list here ? Maybe its due to the fact that if you put every kink, fetish ,bdsm ,D/s-  like and dislike on a profile checklist  , each profile would take up too much bandwidth ,there would also be nothing to talk about .it would be like reading a book .If all your looking for is age play in  a search there  are other sites i am sure . If that is your interest there is a thing on your profile called a Journal  use that .What ever the reason for things some want and  collar me is missing ,Its their site and thats the way the  operators are doing it plain and simple ,maybe if  some are so dissatisfied they need to ask for a membership refund . 



shynewboy -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 10:51:43 AM)

I can't help but think that ageplay is still relegated to the dark corner of 'oddities', much like furries, the gay lifestyle (In some areas) and, 30 years ago, BDSM itself. Shame, too, as its so fun.

Googling it is not particularly encouragin, either :(



Justme696 -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 12:05:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees

These are people with deep insecurities and a very tenuous grasp of the distinction between simulation and sincerity.


It is very weak to call others weak because they don't agree with you. I would call it even low, to wave their opinion away like that.

There has beeen research done to virualworlds  (second life was one) and simulated child abuse/age play and many persons could be tracked back. They were the same people as people looking ar childporn. (In that case...)
And yes I am beware..wearing daipers is on an other level. But for forum-owners it is hard to judge when it is still legal or not.
It is a touchy subject. And they propably don't want it full blown on their front page.

Similar counts for animal sex etc.



BrigandDoom -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 1:22:28 PM)

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say, but there are those out there who will make a mountain out of a mole hill. What I have often found is that with folks like that they themselves often have something to hide.



BrigandDoom -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 1:33:04 PM)

I can not disagree with anything you've stated, the problem we have is we are judged by others who are often looking for a reason to judge. I would lay money on a psychologist getting in on the act and stating that those involved in age play must have paedophile tendancies! I have had little trust in psychology for quite sometime.
I have  a personal friend who was one of the children mixed up in the bullshit Cleveland (UK) satantic abuse scandal a few years ago. Despite the fact it was proven that the two original complainants were nothing more than fantasists and liars, the children involved in this saga are still being hounded by social services as it seems that they are still for some reason considered to victims of abuse and thus are in a catagory of HIGH RISK of committing the same abuses themselves! This it seems is down to a report written by a team of psychologists with an "agenda". There is far too much of this abuse of power going on currently.
Bearing this in mind, can you imagine what would happen if "open minded" folks like this produced a report on age play? I for one dread the day it could possibly happen. We all know that there is no underline illegality or immoral thoughts involved in age play, but then again we don't get the opportunity to defend ourselves fairly should someone make an issue of it.
 



CalifChick -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 1:37:34 PM)

Am I the only one who finds it amusing that a conclusion has been drawn as to why ageplay is not in the picklist, when the person who made that decision has not been asked?  Has it occurred to anybody that when the picklists were done, it simply wasn't rejected, it just wasn't included, as a ton of other interests were not included?  I've seen BDSM checklists that were much, much longer than the interest lists here; is there an ulterior motive at not including a bunch of those items??

Cali





Justme696 -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/11/2008 1:41:01 PM)

propably because the question was asked in the forum..and notat  the helpdeks :P

shoeld be asked here too...agree;

http://www.collarme.com/personals/support.htm



Guilty1974 -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/12/2008 12:57:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

And yes I am beware..wearing daipers is on an other level. But for forum-owners it is hard to judge when it is still legal or not.
It is a touchy subject. And they propably don't want it full blown on their front page.

Similar counts for animal sex etc.


It's not difficult at all. Age-play between between two consenting adults is simply legal and I see no point in prohibiting it on any BDSM board. How low can we go if we ban topics on legal kinks because we are afraid that it might reflect on us?
Your comparison with animal sex is also quite of the mark. Animal sex is actually illegal in many countries (our country being a notable exception although that seems to be due to change soon). I can see quite clearly why a board would ban illegal kinks.



PanthersMom -> RE: Why isn't ageplay a selectable interest on CM? (5/12/2008 1:15:04 PM)

there are lots of types of play not listed, but no database on earth is big enough to list every possible variation on a theme.  discussion is necessary in order to find compatible mates, sorry to say it's not possible to order them like the ala carte menu; one from column a, three from column b and a dash of extra zest from column c.  you still need to meet and talk things out in order to have a relationship of any kind with anyone.  part of the fun is discovery together!
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