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MrWorf -> The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 2:54:43 AM)

This is a list of suggestions for new submissives both male and female and written by experienced dominants and submissives. It was created to help submissives that are entering into the lifestyle to prevent them from stumbling into pitfalls.

Submissive's Handbook
Chapter 1 - Finding a Dominant

• Always trust your gut. If something feels wrong, it probably is.

• Intuition and common sense are your most valuable instincts.

• Look for the same personality/qualities you would look for in a vanilla partner.

• Be yourself. Never compromise who you are to gain the attention of a Dominant.

• Be clear and honest about what you are seeking in a relationship.

• Some Dominants will never love you.

• Some Dominants have no desire to f!@#$%& you.

• Don't be afraid to say "no" to prospective Dom/mes.

• You do not have to take orders or obey every Dominant who approaches you.

• Just because you are sub doesn't mean you should let Dom/mes walk all over you.

• You do not have to spend money on, or give money to, a Dominant.

• You do not have to send naked photos to a Dominant.

• Be careful how much personal info you reveal to strangers.

• Make a list of mandatory questions to ask prospective Dom/mes.

• Ask questions respectfully, then respectfully question answers.

• A Dominant who refuses to answer basic questions has something to hide.

• Talk to other subs and Dom/mes before you meet someone new. Get references.

• Expensive fetish clothes/toys or a booming voice does not make a Dominant.

• Some Dominants exaggerate their lifestyle experience in order to impress subs.

• A Dominant with many years of experience may still be a total %#&@$! or abusive.

Chapter 2 - Being safe

• A good Dominant will make sure you feel safe at all times when meeting.

• Anything that is not consensual is abuse.

• A Dominant who refuses to honor your safeword is abusing you.

• Use common sense if ordered to have unprotected sex with strangers.

• Clean insertables yourself before and after they are used on you.

• Make sure your play partner knows all your medical conditions before scening.

• Drop any Dominant who orders you not to get medical or psychological help.

• Calling your safeword is not a sign of failure. It will help improve future scenes.

• Never tell a Dominant you have no limits.

• Never rush off to another state to meet a Dominant you just met. Be patient.

• Use safe calls (phone calls at established times) when meeting for the first time.

• Always meet in public on your first date.

• If you must play on a first date, do it at a public dungeon.

• Do not allow a Dominant to isolate you from family or loved ones.

• Pay attention to your physical/mental condition after scenes.

• Some subs need more aftercare than others.


Chapter 3 - Protocol

• The most important protocol to learn is your own Dominant's.

• Basic etiquette and manners are all that is required at most lifestyle events.

• Make sure you know all the rules of a specific event and do not break them.

• When collared, your behavior in public is a direct reflection upon your Dominant.

• Learn when to speak and when to be silent.

• Do not touch other people's property (subs, toys) without permission.

• Never interrupt other people's scenes (i.e. touching, talking, or laughing loudly)

• Always clean up after your scene.


Chapter 4 - Your Journey

• Don't expect a Dominant to solve all your problems in life.

• Be responsible for your own health, financial independence and happiness.

• Never stop learning about yourself and ways to improve your submission.

• Never limit yourself to just one source of information.

• Don't spend more money than you can afford on fetish gear, toys, or events.

• You do not have to be a pain ass to be a good sub.

• This is your journey. Live it the way that makes you happy and satisfied.

• If you aren't having fun, you are doing it wrong.

• It is ok to be alone.

• You can decide for yourself whether to be monogamous or poly.

• Don't rush blindly into relationships because you are so eager to serve.

• Take time to honestly learn what you need and want out of the lifestyle.

• Keeping a private journal can help you get to know yourself better.

• Discover who you are in your submission... sub or slave, masochist or no pain, etc.

• Just because you are a sub doesn't mean you shouldn't get your needs met too.

Special thanks to Amirah, Bishop, CW, Christy, Cntrler, Darque de Sade, Goddess Palia, homiet, James, Jennee', lil one, Mistress Max Rulz, Ms. Lynn, Pharaoh & Empress, pulse, Sassy, Solamente, sugga, and Ty.

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hopelesslyInvo -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 3:44:44 AM)

it's like the bdsm version of every quote you see in educational pamphlets or on motivational posters.

i still keep a few of the funny ones around, some have awesome advice like "if a man tries to rape you, urinate to make him stop".




SimplyMichael -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 4:17:40 AM)

Well this post sure shoots a giant fucking hole in the side of the argument that the scene tends to eliminate this sort of shallow pathetic crap!    In San Francisco no less!




Dnomyar -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 5:00:54 AM)

I have a revision for this so called handbook.  If your a newbie then contact Dnomyar first.




Madame4a -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 5:20:35 AM)

I love crap like this.. who wrote it?  Who are all those people at the bottom, what are their credentials?

Funnily enough, as I ask that, I do know someone who is thanked at the bottom, I'm guess they all wrote in on some mailing list (where you have no clue who anyone is) and someone collected them all...

common sense, just common sense




stubborngirl -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 5:33:40 AM)

yeah... but apparently, subs don't have any common sense *snorts*

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chamberqueen -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 5:40:28 AM)

I think it is a great start for newbies.  I have a lot of subs contact me, and some of them are so desperate to give themselves away that they are acting in totally unsafe manners.  There are always newcomers here, and it's good for them to have something to turn to.

I know I still battle with when to say something and when to keep quiet - LOL.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 5:42:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stubborngirl

yeah... but apparently, subs don't have any common sense *snorts*

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i guess not since we need a handbook

BDSM now stands for - Brain Don't Seem (to) Matter







stubborngirl -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 5:43:56 AM)

I like that!




slavegirljoy -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 6:13:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chamberqueen

I think it is a great start for newbies.  I have a lot of subs contact me, and some of them are so desperate to give themselves away that they are acting in totally unsafe manners. 

And, if only these poor, desperate newbies had had a handbook to read, first......tsk, tsk, what a pity no one thought of this idea before now.  Really?  You think reading "The Submissive's Handbook", before contacting you, would make a big difference?  Well, who knows?  Maybe for some it would. 
 
Sure.  Why not?  A book for submissives is probably a really good idea.  There can never be too many books for people to read that tells them how to live their life, that is, if they ever stop reading books long enough to actually live their life. 
 
As for this submissive woman, i am so very thankful that i began my journey into BD/SM before the computer age began and there was no internet and i was able to learn how to relate to Dominant men, not by reading a book but, by doing it the old fashioned way, simple trial and error.
 
joy
Owned servant of Master David




happypervert -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 6:19:10 AM)

Usually such stuff reeks of being the one twue way, but this just seems like a condensed version of a lot of common sense stuff we often see posted here.

But I think calling a list of suggestions like that a "submissive's handbook" exaggerates it's importance and usefulness, though, and that probably explains the reactions above. I'd suggest being more modest, and calling it something like "Helpful Hints for Clueless Newbies" because then at least it will be aimed at the right target market.




aleshaDreams -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 6:26:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrWorf

This is a list of suggestions for new submissives both male and female and written by experienced dominants and submissives. It was created to help submissives that are entering into the lifestyle to prevent them from stumbling into pitfalls.

Submissive's Handbook



One of the biggest problems with this handbook idea is that it seems you missed all the reasons for the suggestions.  Why why why?  Why are your suggesting 'Some Dominants will never love you.'; why is it that Some Dominants will never love you?  It is great to make suggestions, but I think having the arguement to back up the statement should be included in the Manual.  Not that I would read it cause I would not, it sort of spins the idea of 'individualizm' and 'ones own life experience' a wash in my opinion. 




gypsygrl -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 6:31:08 AM)

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• Never rush off to another state to meet a Dominant you just met. Be patient.


I'm idling a bit high right now, but this one made my head explode.

It basically says, "don't rush to meet someone you just met."  In what world could that possilbly make sense?




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 6:42:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

quote:

• Never rush off to another state to meet a Dominant you just met. Be patient.


I'm idling a bit high right now, but this one made my head explode.

It basically says, "don't rush to meet someone you just met."  In what world could that possilbly make sense?


Really?  I see it as not giving up the "home court advantage" without knowing the other person very well first..




KatyLied -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 6:47:39 AM)

 I find it nothing more than another method of trolling.  "look at me, I have your best interests at heart...."




OmegaG -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 6:54:34 AM)

yea! another list of rules that I can read and disregard while I live my life the way I choose.

And I can tie my own shoes too.




gypsygrl -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 7:03:16 AM)

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Really?  I see it as not giving up the "home court advantage" without knowing the other person very well first..


Oh, I know that. :)

I was (mis)focusing on the literal meaning of the statement.  Don't (rush to) meet someone you just met?   If they've already met, why would they be meeting?   Its worded  funky.

Presumably, the statement is referring to a situation where the people made initial contact on-line and is counseling against rushing to take things off-line when distance is an issue. 

I'm wondering if going out of state for a first meet has complications that I wasn't aware of besides what you mention about home court advantage and distance.  Because, depending on how close to the state line a person lives, out of state could be just a few miles.  And, depending on how big the state, even in-state meetings could involve long distances and complicated logistics and giving up home court advantage.






SimplyMichael -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 7:19:53 AM)

Most of the advice isn't "bad" but it is so shallow as to be useless

quote:

  • Always trust your gut. If something feels wrong, it probably is.


Think "date rape"...their gut was wrong, so do we only "trust your gut" when something feels wrong?  What exactly are we looking for in the way of wrong? 

quote:

  • Intuition and common sense are your most valuable instincts.


See above, for addition information read the forums daily, or once and now they repeat constantly.

quote:

  • Look for the same personality/qualities you would look for in a vanilla partner.


While I know what this means on some level, since most kinky people LEFT a vanilla partner, and or can't hold ANY relationship together, how the fuck is some newbie going to be helped by this?

quote:

 • Be yourself. Never compromise who you are to gain the attention of a Dominant. 


Who ARE you?  We want to train, mold, and order you about, so what comprimise is good and what is bad?  Again, not a detail in sight to flush this out.  I agree with the sentiment but it is like telling someone about to jump out an airplane without a parachute, "READY?"




Dnomyar -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 7:31:55 AM)

Omega how do you tie velcro shoes???  Katie a troll would never go thru the trouble to write that much stuff.  Everywhere is a homecourt advantage to a skilled wannabe. (used wannabe because I couldn't think up a better term in a short  amount of time)




subtee -> RE: The Submissive's Handbook (5/13/2008 9:10:52 AM)

Those are really, really good, but I would like some other, more practical answers provided please:
 

What if my knees develop calluses, what kind of salve or balm should I use?
What would be a better thing to say, rather than, “Ow fucker-OW fucker-OW FUCKER!”
Is it wrong, when ordered to clean the bathroom with a toothbrush to use his? If so, does he need to know about it?
You said not to laugh at other people’s scenes, but…what if it’s really, really funny? Like, what if the Dom’s whip misses, gets wrapped around his own neck choking off his air supply and causing him to trip and fall face first into his submissive’s ass, causing her to fart loudly? Still no laughing?
What if your Dom says your safeword is “continue doing that no matter what?”
When being peed on, is it okay to lather it into your hair and sing, “I’m gonna wash that man right outta my hair”…?
Is it okay to accidently hide clover clamps? (Okay on this one I’m pretty much serious.)
What should a sub do if her Dom picks out her clothes but has no fashion sense?
When at a family reunion, who should a slave call “Daddy,” her Daddy or…her…Daddy?
If a sub falls asleep during a scene is it okay to claim it was subspace?
If my master won’t “do me,” how can I get him to “do me” without being a “do me” sub?
You said “you do not have to send naked pics to a dominant”…is that a typo? Should that have read, “you have to send naked pics to a dominant?” (If not, could all the Doms please destroy the pics you’ve received from subtee? Thank you.)




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