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Rape play... - 10/19/2005 3:42:36 PM   
LADYBOA


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Status: offline 		I have been asked how to do a rape play scene.. as I have never done one before. I don't know how to go about it..
How would you start one?
What questions should be asked by both Dom and sub?
and generally anything else you can think of would be a great help.
Thanks
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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 3:45:16 PM   
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quote:

How would you start one?
What questions should be asked by both Dom and sub?


Doug is into the whole force scene from time to time. All he really does is gives me a day or two notice so I can get things straight in my head. If he doesn't give me that time, there is a very fine line between abuse and consentual behavior in my head. Even though we've been together nearly 7 year's now and engaged I'd still walk in a heartbeat if my limits were broken.
I'd only do one of these scenes with someone I've known for quite some time.
No idea how you would approach it with a relative stranger. So many things can go wrong.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 3:49:18 PM   
gypsyeyez


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Status: offline 		It might be thrilling and well advised even to possibly start with a play kidnapping having yourself or the one who wished for the play rape kidnapped bound gagged and bildfolded.... but especially blindfolded ... then as the play rape scene starts remove all but arm bindings and the blindfold and let the fun begin... just remember play rape is usually very rough combined with slapping forcefulness and even verbal degradation.... just my thoughts out of a fantasy filled mind

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 3:49:40 PM   
LADYBOA


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well it is with her Dom that she has been with about 3 yrs now, so they are not strangers at all.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 3:52:33 PM   
sub4hire


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well it is with her Dom that she has been with about 3 yrs now, so they are not strangers at all.


That is good, I know of 2 alledged dominants in the So Cal area to do time in jail for rape, playing with virtual strangers.
It happen's, better to be safe than sorry.


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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 3:56:03 PM   
ExistentialSteel


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Status: offline 		All good advice. I would emphasize doing it by surprise where she does not see the rapist. Have her enter a dark room where the light bulbs have been removed. As she tries to turn on the lights, come up from behind and use a hood or blindfold. Your eyes will be used to the dark, but not hers. Tie her up as others said and have fun. In her mind, you (or her Dom in this case) will be a rapist.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 3:59:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well if you want it to be an actual rape scene, then just go over the details. Does she have a specific fantasy in mind? Will anal be ok? Vaginal? Oral? Kidnapping too? Toys?

Once you have the logistics down, make sure the psychological readiness is there- not only that you all can REALLY get into the force/rape of it, but that you are all secure that you can stop if necessary "just in case." One is just as important as the other.


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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 4:04:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		A Dom friend and I just had a discussion last night about a rape scene. We were talking about after care and sub drop and what happens after a rape scene. Where is the aftercare after this? I suppose there are all kinds of interpretations of a rape scene. If it is a true rape scene, then victim is left just as a real victim is left. Alone and wondering. I suppose everyone has a different take on it and it would depend on what the goal is. Should there be cuddling and discussion immediately after?

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 4:13:02 PM   
LADYBOA


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Status: offline 		Very good... I will pass all these on to her...

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 5:13:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LADYBOA

I have been asked how to do a rape play scene.. as I have never done one before. I don't know how to go about it..
How would you start one?
What questions should be asked by both Dom and sub?
and generally anything else you can think of would be a great help.
Thanks


An example of a semi planned rape scene. I was told to go to a certain hotel, check in to a certain room, and wait. I was told to be there by 5 pm. I got there at 4:30 and checked in. I ordered take out because I was told to wait. I feel asleep about 12:30. The door was locked, however; the window was open because it was a California summer night. I woke up to a pillow case over my head, I was terrified until he whispered in my ear the word red. That was him assigning a safe word and telling me it was him. Before I knew it I felt him inside and another set of hands on my body. He had a collared slave who he had join in with the rape scene.



Some of the greatest rape scenes I have done where only semi planned out. He would set up a place for me to be by a certain time, he would come any time after that. He would catch me by surpise, there would typically be true fear in the begining. He was aware of my any limits both physical and emotional. Several times others where involved it was a great rush both physically and mentally.


As far as after care. I would say simply cherish the one your with and talk about what you did or did not enjoy and why.




Nika{Phoenix}


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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 5:30:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm going to differ from the others here some ways. For the first time I think they should discuss CAREFULLY what each person is expecting and what will and will NOT happen. A rape scene, like any other scene is something that can be done again later. Go easy the first time and be sure both people enjoy what happens. Then, if all went well, they can consider doing more, harder, rougher, kidnapping, whatever another time. Don't take the chance of turning her completely off to this fun by not communicating ahead of time.

Oh, and be sure they both agree on a 'safe' word. It's good insurance and a common sense thing to do.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 5:33:24 PM   
Phoenixandnika


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Status: offline 		I agree, this is not a scene to go into lightly or without speaking to the other person involved. I also agree it is something that should start light and escalate, because you do not always know how someone will react of if it might be one of those fantasies best left in someones head.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 5:39:40 PM   
KittenWithaTwist


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Status: offline 		I've never really done rape play as a "scene" so much as a spur of the moment taken by force sort of thing. However:

Firstly, if this isn't your own submissive, I would ask them what their preferred safe word is, just in case. Then ask how they feel about violence, force, pain. Any things they find particularly scary, painful, etc. These things can be used to your advantage. Don't forget to ask about hard limits, lines you should not and will not cross.

Fetish Diva Midori teaches an excellent class on how to set up a scene. She suggests that you ask the bottom/submissive the following questions:

1. What do you like to do in S&M?
2. What do you hate to do in S&M?
3. What is a good scene like for you? (What do you look like, sound like?)
4. What is a bad scene like for you? (What do you look like, sound like?)


With this information, you can construct the outline of a scene in your head and have the bottom review it. Ask for feedback, whether this sounds like a scene they would enjoy, or one that that they would not enjoy. Ask if they have anything they would like to specifically request or anything they want to completely avoid. Then, construct a second scene.

I would suggest keeping the second scene or "second draft" as a surprise, as this always seem to make rape play a little more exciting.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/19/2005 10:11:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Depends on who fancies being raped and how. Too heavy and it would develop into too much fo the real thing. Too light and it would do nothing for anyone.
I've been chatting with a subbie who tried to rape play with their husband but it didn't work. She found another subbie with a similar fantasy and they solved the problem by combining kidapping and wife swapping with the rape play.
Their husbands would tie them, gag them, blindfold them, and then leave them. Then they would then hop in their vans, drive over to one anothers homes, kidpap one anothers wives, take them somewhere secret for a nights or a weekends ravishing, and then drive them back again.
Worked fine for them. Doesn't work fine for everyone.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/20/2005 11:06:08 AM   
Soulhuntre


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ORIGINAL: LADYBOA
I have been asked how to do a rape play scene.. as I have never done one before. I don't know how to go about it..


There are many, many variables here - they tactics depend on the person, the relationships, their emotional stability and physical health... the list goes on and on and on.

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ORIGINAL: LADYBOA
How would you start one?
What questions should be asked by both Dom and sub?
and generally anything else you can think of would be a great help.


I'll assume by "rape scene" you actually mean "kidnapping and rape scene" as they are more complex. A simple rape scene is easy enough to do - pick a time when the submissive would clearly not welcome sexual intercourse and do it (assuming the relationship allows this and it is practical).

Kidnapping scenes are harder. In essense you plan themt he way you would plan a real abduction. Your goals are minimum visibility, no warning, minimum opportunities for struggle and easy access to the place of the rape.

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left. Alone and wondering. I suppose everyone has a different take on it and it would depend on what the goal is. Should there be cuddling and discussion immediately after?


Your right, everyone has a different take on it. It depends on too many things to make a blanket statement.

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RE: Rape play... - 10/20/2005 11:22:29 AM   
Evanesce


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Status: offline 		Master and I have often discussed scenes of this type, and the question always arises... How far is too far? The answer to that is dependent upon the mental and emotional stability of the "victim." Something done to one person might merely be frightening, where the same act done to someone else could result in permanent emotional and psychological trauma.

Master complains that He could not kidnap and rape me, because I would know it was Him and I would know I was safe. In a way, He's right. It would not be easy for Him to frighten me. However, there are ways He could accomplish this that would terrify me, and I would truly believe I was in danger. The first thing He would need to do would be to not let me know in any way what He was planning. The element of surprise is essential for me. The way I see it... He needs to do it the way a "real" rapist would do it... suddenly, violently, and repeatedly. If He's going to go to the trouble to create a rape scene, it needs to be one in which I am kidnapped, blindfolded, gagged, and taken somewhere unfamiliar to be used painfully and repeatedly, with periods of torture interspersed between the sexual abuse over a period of at least 24 hours. Then, when it's all over, take me back where I was picked up and dump me out. Aftercare can come later, when He lets me know it was really Him (and a few close friends).

However, this is not the kind of scene one can do with just anyone. As I said, the emotional and mental stability of the individual MUST be taken into consideration when playing "extreme" games.

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