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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 11:58:58 AM   
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Second Husband working toward EPE/TPE relationship. He got involved with drugs and alcohol, began abusing the children. Hands on me, fine, hands on them..Mother Tiger. Final break up involved him high, throwing a dish at our youngest son in his crib and knocking my oldest (then 5) into a wall. I went into defense mode, he broke my jaw, blackened my eyes and broke a window with me..I attempted to break his skull with  a end table and knocked his ass out. Cops came, took one look at me, my sons, hauled him off to jail and us to the hospital. We never went back to that apartment. I got a restraining order against him (not bullet proof)

I got a job as a Topless dancer (weekends) to pay the rent on our new place and cleaned apartments during the day. He found us and tried to break into the apartment to grab the kids when I was at work one night. The sitter called the cops. They took him out of there and told him that if he tried that stunt again, he would be buried under the jail (friends of mine). He never contacted us again, but I made sure there was an attack trained dog in the apartment after that.

My Rule of Life, If you are under the control of Recreational Drugs and Alcohol you are not in control of yourself and therefore Not in control of me. Kids don't ask for this or consent to the treatment, I can. Touch them your gone..or I am.

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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 1:47:57 PM   
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he understood how i felt; he just couldn't convince himself, internally, and yes, he did want to continue as vanilla, but as i told him, you knew when you got into this with me that it was more than kinky sex for me...

evidentally, he wasn't a tried and true sadist and was only giving me the pain because it was fun and it kept me happy, but there came a time when he couldn't fake his way through it anymore, and that's the day he fell in love with me...

we parted amicably, as i have with all but two men ever in my entire life, dominant or not, but i feel that in the back of his mind that he thought besides me being a masochist that wasn't getting her needs fulfilled, everything between us were perfect, and if he could just try to keep my mind off of it, that i wouldn't miss it or that he could somehow 'save me from myself'(his words, not mine), that everything would be just fine.



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daddysliloneds, it's really sad that he couldn't understand that he wasn't really "hurting" you.  If he fell in love and couldn't continue a D/s relationship with you, then I'd imagine that he wanted to continue in a vanilla way, right?  But you didn't because you needed the sadism?  I say this because I can't get my mind around the idea of breaking up with someone because I fell in love with them.  If you feel like sharing, I'd love to hear how that breakup went in more detail.

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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 2:28:31 PM   
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Well... the first one ended for a lot of reasons. First, she misrepresented herself (FYI... if a woman tells you she has to shave daily... ask where!! And if they have false teeth, find out if they wear them?) and had horrible hygiene habits (my daughter told me she didn't know bath towels could smell that bad). And she was very negative.
 
The second one ended as friends, she had found what it was she wanted and needed with another and we wished her the very best, and still do.
 
The next one ended because he was basically lazy... and he did admit to that much... and because I don't take well to being yelled at.
 
Another ended because he wasn't as submissive as he was dominant and I'm not submissive at all.
 
And my personal fave... the psycho. Yeah, that about says it for her... right erin?
 
But it's been a learning experience and we took something away from every attempt until we finally got it right.
 
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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 4:42:37 PM   
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There have been many many break-ups but I have been blessed therefore by a great many relationships.
There are two which are equalled I suppose, thus far, in their effect upon me. They are entirely different in every single respect and they do illustrate entirely different 'parts' of me.

The first one: I was 13 and the relationship lasted until I was 18 and there was a chance meeting when I was 23. We were at different schools but a friend told me that J was in love with me. Guilt ridden and shocked it gave me almost a nervous breakdown BUT as young adolescent girls we played.....by the age of consent we were still essentially platonic to the outside world but there was an undercurrent of lesbian jealousy between us. She came out and then taunted me with her relatonship with a young woman prettier than myself. She was the dominant girl and knew how to 'throw' me with a simple piercing look across a crowded room. We never physically consumated our affection until many years later....five years to be more or less exact. I met an old mutaul school friend who told me J was leaving Britain and would I like to see her again. A few days later and J came to see me. The sex was rough, she dominated me, it was passionate and we cried. The next day she left for Brazil to be transgendered: to become the man she had always felt she was. This was far far rarer a process back then than it is now. I have never traced her. I was clear in my heart that I would not allow myself to be dominated by a woman again if I could avoid it.
The other relationship ended about 18 months ago. He was my dominant. Physically perfect for me; tall, rather big as an ex rugby player. We met on line and our first meeting was romantic, wild, a kiss under a full-mooned sky and within the hour he asked me to sit on his lap and be a good girl....during those four years there was cropping, fisting, anal vaginal, consensual rape, arrangements for poly and much more. His main fantasy was always always for us to be FMF. As I run a very very demanding and busy life as a single parent and sole provider I never had the time or the inclination to visit his home. We saw each other about once a week (sometimes there were times when his son kept him busy). We emailed three four times a day and spoke by phone many times a week. He had me in consensual submision 24/7 although we never lived together. After four years had passed I found out, after a chance slip p in one of his mails and some serious investigation on my part, that he had lied to me consistently for the entire time. He was in fact in a vanilla relationship: they lived together, she worked and kept him, everything was in her name. He not only lied but betrayed his son and son's girlfriend by disclosing almost every family picture he had. Excluding the presence of the vanilla partner completely. He wouldn't let go of me until I informed the Police and was at the point of making harassment charges.
These two relationships involve different sexes. They occurred at entirely different stages of my life. I never saw the 'end' coming. I never thought I would recover. I wanted that I wasn't a submissive. I wanted not to have a heart. I wanted not to feel love. I wanted that people I loved told the truth.
But regrets? From where I am at right now? None. Looking back each and everyone of the very many relationships I have had have shaped me. In this world where thousands are dying from natural disaster and life is cheaply taken as a spoil of war....to have been able to have loved and hurt like I have is an emotional luxury and I am blessed to have been enriched by such luxury.
somebody remind me of that please the next time I am screaming from a broken heart.
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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 6:18:17 PM   
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I've had plenty of short lived relationships, so to keep this short, I'm only sharing the longer ones.

I had my first long term relationship as a teenager. He was my first lover. After 4 years, he told me I wasn't what he was looking for. I moved out of town. Years later, he got my address from a family member and wrote me a long letter of apology. Apparently, he felt addicted to me back then and it scared the shit out of him. I'm friends now with him and his wife.

About 3 years after moving out of town, I met a man I ended up marrying. Everything was fine before the marriage. A couple of his friends were gay, but  they assured me he was straight. After we married, he lost all interest in intercourse. All he wanted was oral. One of his buddies who was really a lover finally admitted the truth about my husband's sexual orientation. Apparently, he married me to hide it.

After I split up with my husband, I met my son's father. We were together for 8 years. He had serious issues with women because he was beaten bloody and locked in closets by his mother (a woman) when he was a kid. I got sick of the abuse. That last night, when he grabbed me by the throat and threatened to kill me, I was looking for a reason to leave.

The last guy I met on a bdsm website. I told him upfront friends with benefits was a hard limit. He lied about his intentions from the beginning saying we would work toward a serious relationship. After I developed strong feelings for him, he started calling me a bondage buddy and telling me he was dating another woman, whom he referred to as his girlfriend. He apologized, I demanded that he make it right. He promised several times he would, but never followed through. There never was a relationship to break up in this one, but unfortunately the association was long term.

Because of my past experience, I believed there was something wrong with me, that I was unlovable for some reason. I decided I would settle for a man who wouldn't lie to me, non-consentually abuse me, or live off me. It didn't matter if he ever loved me. Then I met Sir.




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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 7:35:40 PM   
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mist, the guy sounds like a loser, sorry to be so blunt.  Not really loving someone was the worst you did, even according to him, which is not a crime or a character flaw.  If anything, he seems to be the one with the character flaw--I see no integrity in permitting a slave something and then using it as an excuse to breakup.

Owner4sexslave, Ok, that's not vanilla, not D/s, not even switch, but a rather unique relationship.  Seems like you both had sadistic and masochistic streak and experiencing both at the same time.  Or as nillas would call it, a fucked-up relationship.   But hey, if you both enjoyed it, then it works for you.  But I don't think that'd work for me.  Oh I know Dommes are not evil, any more than I am, but dating a Domme would be like dating a lesbian, neither one of us could give the other what they want--submission.  And since I'm not masochistic, no point in that.

As for love, it does make sense that you'd have more of an issue with turning her into a gangbang fucktoy than inflicting pain on her as emotional pain can be more serious than physical pain.  Just being a sadist is about your pleasure at others' pain, but love makes you identify with them to some extent, especially their well-being, so it makes sense that you'd find it easier to do such things with someone you didn't love, but I imagine that once you could trust her not to be damaged but rather to enjoy it, it'd be much more intense doing it to someone you love.

Lots of interesting replies here; I'll have to take some time to read and think them over.  Mucho material for my next novel.

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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 7:47:10 PM   
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quote:

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Lots of interesting replies here; I'll have to take some time to read and think them over.  Mucho material for my next novel.

I get inspired to write rather more from those I feel I am in deeper relationships with..........ask for my consent to appear in one of your novels and I might give it,...but I thought you had a genuine interest in the theme you set out to ask about.
But as they say: truth is stranger than fiction.
Everyone's everyone is a book entire and whole unto itself..........



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RE: The Breakup - 5/15/2008 7:55:26 PM   
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W/we met through a classified outside this community. It began as a continuation of My growth and the planting of a seed for her. Over 15 month and a few bumps W/we had fallen for each other emotionally. she desired that which I could not give....24/7....I am married to a totally vanilla soul. My princess met all My needs but I could not meet the one she desired most.....All of Me. she ended U/us and I miss her . Future quests will not meet the passion for submission she gave yet this Dominant has a hunger and must be fed. W/we will heal and she will find the One who can complete her. I did not fail, it was just not within My power to fulfill her desire......

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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 1:33:17 AM   
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Missokyst, why do you say it was possibly the stupidest?  I mean, what could you have done to stimulate him to action other than leaving?  I assume you were in a D/s relationship and you couldn't very well tell your Dom he's gotta do x, y, and z.  Or could you?  Though perhaps not in a way that a Dom could stimulate a sub to action.

Prinsexx, in your first relationship with J, why did you feel guilty when you learned that she was in love with you?  And if the relationship continued for 5 years without physical consummation, what did you do?  Just flirting?  Making out?  Any D/s dynamic?  Why no sex?  And why the lesbian jealousy?  Because she had sex with other girls but not you?  And when you did have sex later on, you said she dominated you.  What do you mean?  Was this consensual?  If not, is that why you didn't ever wanted to be dominated by a woman again?  It sounds like the sex was good but also traumatizing somehow.  Or maybe you were sad that it was the only and the last time you'd see her?  I don't really understand it.  Oh, FMF?  I'm not clear how or why the first relationship ended; did you go to different college?  And when you met again at 23, had sex, and parted, was that like another breakup?  Did you still have strong feelings for her, like you didn't want her to leave or have the sex change?

Oh, I do have a genuine interest in this theme, I'm not asking just to have material for a book.  It's the other way around.  I wouldn't even think of writing anything unless I was really fascinated by the subject.  That's a necessity for me since writing is a really long process and to sustain it requires an almost obsessive interest in the content.  And while breakups and especially D/s breakups fascinate me, I don't have much experience in it since I was a loner most of my life and have very little to draw on on this subject.  It seems while everyone else was busy going from one relationship rollercoaster to another, I was busy on a very different kind of adventure.  As for consent, nah, I don't think I need anything like that.  It's the beauty of fiction; you use different names, different jobs, different places, etc. to require consent from anybody.  Even the characters are usually composites and not really this or that person (though some writers do I suppose).  Really the only thing that matters to me is the emotional truth, the truth in a movie-like scene, everything else can be made up to fit the need of the scene.  And yes truth is stranger than fiction.  But as new narrative forms are developed, fiction is catching up in strangeness, "Fight Club" for example.  But truth does inspire something interesting things.

DBG, I must say that his explanation "I was addicted to you and that scared the shit out of me" does not make any sense to me as to why he would break up.  As for the gay husband, I'm surprised he could even "get it up" for you given he was gay, unless he always made you go oral before the intercourse.  Was there any D/s dynamic in any of these relationships before the bdsm guy you met online?  How did you get introduced to D/s?  That's a pretty unfortunate series of relationships, but at least your current one is good.


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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 2:58:11 AM   
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Sleepydom, and others on here....  (using my best Paul Harvy tone of voice)
.... Now for the Rest of the story.

I'm sitting here trying to talk myself into sharing this with everbody.  It's pretty painful and it's a deep pain.  This pain is in fact the core driving force to what made me leave the whole lifestyle.  The core motivation to why I tried to squeeze myself into being vanilla, throwing myself into Right Wing Christianity.  The turning point in many regards to where I became perhaps my own worst enemy for a number of years.  Denial is truely something else besides a River in Egypt, but it can run just as deep and flow like a river.

I released her (it feels so impersonal not using names at times, but needed since this is public), my slave, to chase down my vision of true love.

So along comes somebody, who I felt that spark, totally amazing, deep and wonderful.  She knew nothing about the lifestyle per se, however she was extremely taken in and drawn to the kink and sex.  Actually, I was attracted to her, that my whole sex drive was super elevated.  In a course of a couple of weeks, she had moved out of her Dad's place and was living with me.   Hell, actually she was around so much anyways, she might as well been living there.   It was totally amazing, it had been everything I had been dreaming of.   About 6 monthes along, however, things got strange.  There was strange silence that was happening on her part.  

Then the day before mothers day, she tells me, we need to talk.  Ok, we sit down, she informs me that she does not feel that our relationship is right for her any longer.   I try to probe and ask questions, and she sticks to giving me the same vauge answer, it's not right.   I'm trying to go for specific details, and she's keeping it general.   She is moving out tomorrow, and moving in with her mother.  I felt this was very strange, because she had had issues with her mother.   In short, her family background, was very controlling and very submerged into Christianity.  I tried to press with more questions, still she would not budge on giving me any details to her decision.   The whole deal seemed and felt odd to me. 

Next day, she moved out, it was mothers day.  Yes, my heart was broken over this.  Like any breakup, I went into a sort of emotional tail spin.  It took me actually a couple of monthes to work past.   We had had very little interaction during that time.  She had shown up a few times, to see how I was doing, and we played a little.  Still, she was guarded about why she moved out.   In all honestly, I was confused and dumb founded.   I had to come to terms, that I might never know, to accept it and get on with life.

The day, the day... I remember it well.  I went for a walk, enjoying the beautiful day, mentally I had just reached of point of letting go of her altogther.  I was ready and open to finding somebody new.   It was time, I was feeling happy and refreshed.  It was a Beautiful Day.   I was looking forward to the future, I was done mourning a confusing loss.  I have to mentally process it like having somebody that died of mysterious reasons in my life.   All I knew, was this day, I had felt the release of mourning.  That I was in the right head space to give things a spin with somebody new.

I was walking up the sidewalk, almost home.  Then a mutual friend that was driving by in her car stops.  Yells my name out the window.  She tells me we need to talk, there's something you need to know.  Within moments, my world was turned upside down.   News is broken... that she is pregnant.   So many thoughts, feelings and emotions bitch slapping me in the reality. 

I need to condense this story now.  In short, she had become pregant, turned to her mother for advice and support.  Her mother and her sisters, convinced her that she needed to leave me.  Center Stage source of conflict, BDSM, kink and all that, even how it's unfit for UM's. Sinful and shameful and you name it. 

My side of the story condensed now,  I did not want to be cut out of the picture of my twin daughters lives.  The crazy court battles, the things I was accused of, wow, way blown out of picture and distorted.  Even to the point that my family was into witchcraft.  That I was a controlling and abusive control freak, that I had just used her for sex.  You name it.  Every ugly thing coming out in court.  My attorney even was stunned and shocked. 

My heart was bleeding to death, I even questioned if I was really fit or not.  I wondered if BDSM and things I was into was really worth it or not.  I myself questioned if who I was, was really fit for UM's.  I found it difficult pill to swallow at the time.

This is what made me swear off BDSM, to throw myself into Christianity, into GOD and Jesus.  I went totally Right Wing Hardcore Christain all the way.  A lot of intense Bible studies, reading, and anything and everything I could get my hands on.  I was watching less and less MTV even.   Hell, I even made the choice to stop playing ROCK and ROLL music.  I quit the band I was in at the time.  Stopped smoking, refused to drink beer out at the bars, in fact I switched to drinking Pepsi at the bars.  I even made social changes to the types of people I hung out and associated with.  Major Changes.  Not minor ones.

There are so many things, that have happened since then.  But basically, I made so many changes in my life, that it's taken me a little over a decade to slowly work my way back to where I started from.

Just not BDSM, but playing music and being part of a band.  To play out in front of people, to play the guitar, to sing, to do what it is I love and enjoy doing.

I tried to shove a lot more inside my Closet Door besides BDSM.  My advice to anybody out there, if you think or believe you can change who or what you really are, you better think twice.   Denial is something besides a River in Bumfuck Egypt.

We all can make self improvements, expand our minds, explore new things, learn new skills, come to new understanding, Break Bad Habits, or develop new ones.   It still does not change the Core of who we are.   It's very difficult to actually change the Core of who and what you are.   I tried changing my Core, it did not work, I actually had a core melt down because of it.   I literally put myself through hell and back again.




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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 6:05:47 AM   
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Wow, as if I don't have enough reason to despise religion, stories like that make me want to go out and burn down every church, every synagogue, every temple.  That's a real injustice you've suffered.  I could never forgive her for that, much less her mother, her sisters, and her whole goddamned family, hell Christianity itself for its utter stupidity.  I can't comprehend how she could've just sat in the courtroom hearing all that nonsense when she was a perfectly willing participant in all that happened.  I would've killed myself for shame if I was her.  Uggghhh.  That just makes me mad.

So the whole legal charade actually convinced you that BDSM was evil?  Or was it the pain of losing her and your daughters?  Do you have any contact with them at all today?

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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 6:10:05 AM   
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DBG, I must say that his explanation "I was addicted to you and that scared the shit out of me" does not make any sense to me as to why he would break up.  As for the gay husband, I'm surprised he could even "get it up" for you given he was gay, unless he always made you go oral before the intercourse.  Was there any D/s dynamic in any of these relationships before the bdsm guy you met online?  How did you get introduced to D/s?  That's a pretty unfortunate series of relationships, but at least your current one is good.


The way the first guy explained it, he was addicted to the sex like a druggie is addicted to drugs. The sex was too intense for him and it scared the shit out of him. But you're right when you say it doesn't make sense. The bisexual husband liked to promise me sex after a bj saying he would last longer, then didn't follow through. He spanked me a occasionally, but we never identified as d/s. I was introduced to d/s by the guy who lied about his intentions. Now that religion has been brought up, I think I should mention this guy was religious. He was a mennonite virgin that wouldn't have sex before marriage, but loved to engage in bondage and sexual touching. I think he viewed bdsm as an evil thing he was addicted to and although he was willing to engage, he would never consider having a relationship with a woman who wasn't vanilla. Jerks like him end up getting married, cheating on their wives, and lose everything when they get caught. They would rather have two women (have their cake and eat it too) than one woman who can meet all their needs. I tried telling him that, but of course he wouldn't listen. Idiot. At least the guy I'm with now makes sense.

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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 6:19:00 AM   
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And my personal fave... the psycho. Yeah, that about says it for her... right erin?
Jewel


LOL....yeah...that about sums it up.

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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 6:49:13 AM   
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i've had mostly short term relationships, and the majority of them were so-so.  therefore was not disapointed when things did not work out.

But there was 1 guy.  He broke thru alot of my defences, and at the time of our break up, I was falling in love with him.  It took twice as long as our relationship to get over him.  I am over it now, though my heart still twinges a bit when I think about him.  We had briefly discussed BDSM but he was not interested.  And while I was really,strongly interested, I would have let go of my desires, to be with him.  Alas, was not meant to be.

My last relationship, (it's been over a year.) was extremely short, and was more on the phone, and IM.  If we had continued, he would of became my Dom.  Officially, there wasn't even a break up.  He just never called, or sent an email/IM.  But truthfully, I was more glad then anything.  I didn't feel comfortable being submissive to him. And doubted that I was supposed to be submissive at all.

So these days, I just take whatever experiences I can, bottoming and occasionally topping, and trying to keep my mind open.
(like maybe there is someone out there that I could feel comfortable submitting to.)



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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 2:24:57 PM   
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Wow, as if I don't have enough reason to despise religion, stories like that make me want to go out and burn down every church, every synagogue, every temple.  That's a real injustice you've suffered.  I could never forgive her for that, much less her mother, her sisters, and her whole goddamned family, hell Christianity itself for its utter stupidity.  I can't comprehend how she could've just sat in the courtroom hearing all that nonsense when she was a perfectly willing participant in all that happened.  I would've killed myself for shame if I was her.  Uggghhh.  That just makes me mad.

So the whole legal charade actually convinced you that BDSM was evil?  Or was it the pain of losing her and your daughters?  Do you have any contact with them at all today?


SleepyDom,

I am not angry at religion.  I actually learned a lot of things in my journey.  Religion is not the problem, it's the way other human beings manipulate religion to their own agenda, this is where the problem lays.   Christianity itself is not stupidity, it's the manner in which people have followed it.   The Deeper I actually got inside of Christianity, the teachings, the more I realized that people were manipulating for agenda's.   I personaly have issues with the Dogma and Doctrines that do not follow the teachings.   In many regards, things in direct contridiction to what you find written in the bible itself.   Things which have been taken totally out of context, and manipulated and made out to be something else.   Again, please the problem is not with religion, it's with how things have been Manipulated by those who have established certain Dogma's or Doctrines.  Religion, especially Christianity is being manipulated.  Ironic as it is, even within the scriptures itself is this very warning written. 

I don't blame Christianity, nor religion itself.  Rather how it's been manipulated.   Yes, I was shocked at what came up in court.  Actually the whole Witchcraft thing is what blew my mind the most.  Hell, my attorney was not even prepared for that one.  That seemed like a complete outright lie, I was mad as Hell.   However, things like Tarot Cards, Ouija Boards and books on alertnative religions is more then enough for Somebody who is "Right Wing Christian" to pass judgement upon somebody for being into Witchcraft and Satanism.   It's a whole frame of mind, you'd have to fully understand it first.

I Loved her deeply, very deeply, it was difficult for me to hearing things being presented that were a complete contradiction of how I honestly felt.   It was like hearing half the truth being presented, and that half truth being turned into something very Ugly, uncaring, unloving, and my heart was breaking... complete disbief at the reality of what was going on.  It felt surreal, almost like a dream that turned into a nightmare.

The Court ordered an investigation on me, they found nothing to validate the accusations being made.  The Judge had us go to dispute resolution, that was not a fun process.  I was on pins and needles, the whole time.  Basically, the judge could make a finding that I was bad person based on the moral values being tossed around in court.  I know many people freak out about Kink BDSM and the law.   At least with my Experience in Family Court, I was not literally nailed to the cross for it.  Things like Bondage, Ass Spanking, Hair pulling and having kinky sex is a matter of personal choice and morals.  Does not automatically make one abusive. 

Anyways, some food for thought that D/s is pretty heavy in many of the Christian teachings, however it's male based.  Where the man is the head of the household, and all that?  There actually are some worthy things written that apply to D/s relationship rather well, this in terms of good advice.  Mind you, if you can toss out the Dogma's and Doctrines and whatever beliefs you don't agree with or have a had swallowing.  
   

    

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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 4:41:11 PM   
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I just ended a relationship recently  some related to incompatibilities also due to feelings... he was falling in   love with me but I could not reciprocate those feelings  I did not feel it was fair to him to continue knowing how he felt and for me we had started off as friends but my feelings for him did not grow beyond the friend stage.. I felt like I was going thru the motions of acting the part of the sub put could not feel the part plus it had slowly been deteriorating  to more a vanilla relationship on his part as he fell in love,  a prior relationship I ended for pretty much the opposite reasons he wanted me to become his property/slave  but love would not be given , since I am not a painslut where I can get off  just on pain alone I need the emotional aspect/intensity, to be told that sorry  love in return is not part of the deal is going the create a huge emotional roeadblock  for me knowing any feeling given will be one sided  that will prevent me from opening up and enjoy the experiences and being able to trust fully so I ended knowing I could not give him what he wants from a relationship in terms  of growth.  .      

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RE: The Breakup - 5/16/2008 9:02:24 PM   
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LadyLynx, the guy you were falling in love for, did he give you a reason why he broke up with you?

Owner4sexslave, I don't want to go too much into religion, but I'll say:  Religion is not some separate thing from human beings.  At least, I see it as a human enterprise, created by humans, perpetuated by humans, practiced by groups of humans.  Separated from humans, religion doesn't even make sense.  What is a religious belief without humans to believe them?  What is a religious oppression of human sexuality without humans degrading human sexuality based on their beliefs?  To me when you say "humans manipulating religion" means the same as "religion."  But if you want to say it's the oppressive religious beliefs that's the problem (and these are the results of humans manipulating religion), and NOT religion itself, fine, but we're saying the same thing at bottom.  It's the revisionists that want to take out all the undesirable elements in religion and transform them into something benign and maybe THAT'S what your'e calling religion, then OK, I'll agree with you:  religion without all the bad elements is OK.  But I don't understand the motivation behind wanting the use the term 'religion' in such pure, benign, and completely revisionistic way.  Surely not because you actually think that if we understood the Bible correctly, there would be no bad elements in it?  Well I don't want to get into THAT debate, but as one who's brought up Christian and studied the Bible I can tell you it has a lot of crap.

Ok getting off my soapbox, I was curious, do you keep in touch with her or your twin daughters?  What is your feeling toward her today?

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