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how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/14/2008 11:41:47 PM   
AMADF


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Status: offline 		Reading a post in ask a mistress section, i found out that pro subs exist :) and not talking about bdsm models but pro subs. Mhh have no idea how much would a session cost, considering the fact that indeed pro subs take a lot more risk of pro mistress.

Not trying to offend someone, and indeed no matter the role we all need to take precautions, but i mean the mistress ties you with ropes and then she can be more or less "safe", but the sub, besides saying "red" maybe he cannot untie on time or things like this.

So..the questions for the pro subs would be...  how much do you charge for a session and if they take any special measure to guarantee their safety :)

Thanks a lot, and btw i think its awsome that they are also pro subs cause give the opportunitty to a lot of people to live bdsm instead of reading it.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/15/2008 7:47:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		At a club in LA near LAX the price doesn't matter for sub or Domme, as little as $100 for a 1/2 hour session. Two hours goes for $360.

Here's the link complete with pictures of some of available subs: http://www.passivearts.com/ladies2.php?logo=sub&pg=submissive

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/15/2008 10:34:54 AM   
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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/15/2008 2:37:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		It really depends.  Usually on the girl and what you want to do. 

As far as safety goes, the easiest thing to do is to have a "spotter" who is basically there to enforce your "red", or avoid restraints all together.  Neither mean you don't get hurt, but they do mean that when the muppet hits you wrong you can remove the implement from his hands pretty darned quick.

Learning to be houdini helps some too.

When all is said and done, it's a dangerous way to make money, so though the £200 + an hour may look good, you can't always work every day of the week (marks are bad) and when you do work, it's risky.

I'm highly unlikely to go back to it, put it that way.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/15/2008 4:11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I was running Inner Explorations, a professional dungeon, the fee for a professional submissive was $300.  It was broken down this way.  The house got $100 for expenses.  The submissive got $150 and an observer who was required to be in the dungeon at all times throughout the scene got $50.  Usually, the observer was one of the dommes who wasn't scheduled for a session then.  Occasionally, it was one of the other submissive women.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/15/2008 6:27:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IvyMorgan

It really depends.  Usually on the girl and what you want to do. 

As far as safety goes, the easiest thing to do is to have a "spotter" who is basically there to enforce your "red", or avoid restraints all together.  Neither mean you don't get hurt, but they do mean that when the muppet hits you wrong you can remove the implement from his hands pretty darned quick.

Learning to be houdini helps some too.

When all is said and done, it's a dangerous way to make money, so though the £200 + an hour may look good, you can't always work every day of the week (marks are bad) and when you do work, it's risky.

I'm highly unlikely to go back to it, put it that way.


Lmao... O god... for some reason, 'The muppet" seems to be a very accurate description for some of these guys.

From what I've seen personally, Pro subs generally make less that pro dommes, because the Domme can fit in more sessions, as she's not getting hit. All it takes is one jackass and a big wooden paddle, or a cane, and I'm out of work for a week because no one wants to play with a sub that just looks like she got hit in the ass with a truck. I've also had some delightful people assume that since I do this professionally, I should be able to take a hit like a boxer or something... like straight up punches. Wtf, stupidity.  Hopefully, they will not contribute their little failure puddles of DNA to society.

I'm looking forward to getting my own house where I can put a dungeon in the basement or something. That way, I won't have to deal with driving, and guys that want me to visit them in sketchy hotels, until then, I charge 200, or 250 if I have to use a driver. (Or if I drive very far)

As far as safety, if I get a "creeper" vibe off someone I'm talking to, I'll have an armed guard drive me. I get to feel safe, and he gets 50$ for hanging out in the car and playing his psp.

Also, I have crappy restraints... for a reason. My handcuffs are too big, I can slip out of them, same for the leather restraints and the spreader bar.


- Lynx (Who has ropeburn on her neck today... damnit)

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/16/2008 7:16:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow the one place that i know of here subs charge more then domme's by quite a lot. A pro switch friend i had got $400 an hour for dom work and $900 an hour for sub work. The logic at the dungeon she worked at was that subs couldn't work as much (for the reasons already mentioned) so they deserved more money. Its kind of sick how much some men will pay to be able to beat up on a woman.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/16/2008 9:46:27 AM   
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Its kind of sick how much some men will pay to be able to beat up on a woman.

Oh really?....and why do you say that?


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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/16/2008 9:50:03 AM   
Lynnxz


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Status: offline 		Wtf? I'm going to move over to that dungeon Willow...

900? Seriously?


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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/16/2008 2:40:40 PM   
Switchblayde


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Status: offline 		I'm a pro sub working out of  London and the South East. I enjoy what I do, am competing with those half my age so I charge £125 which I think is a fair price.

P.S. This should have gone on my sub profile; SlaveRayleene.
That said, I pro Domme as well.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 5/17/2008 11:40:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

quote:

Its kind of sick how much some men will pay to be able to beat up on a woman.

Oh really?....and why do you say that?



yah .. cool isn't it

I wonder how much I could charge Victory ..... *hmmmmsss*

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 7:03:21 PM   
pussiboi


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Status: offline 		So....what could a submissive male charge? LOL

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 7:28:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pussiboi

So....what could a submissive male charge? LOL


I paid a professional male sub at Passive Arts the same rate and also paid a female switch to participate also.  You can charge depending on your market, your skills and appearance and the quality of your dungeon. Passive Arts is a great play space.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 7:30:17 PM   
pussiboi


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Status: offline 		Wow...I need to look into this. Then I would be TRULY "owned"---at least during the sessions.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 7:45:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Willowmoon

Wow the one place that i know of here subs charge more then domme's by quite a lot. A pro switch friend i had got $400 an hour for dom work and $900 an hour for sub work. The logic at the dungeon she worked at was that subs couldn't work as much (for the reasons already mentioned) so they deserved more money. Its kind of sick how much some men will pay to be able to beat up on a woman.


Damn! Almost makes me wanna..... No, nevermind  Not goin' pro regardless.... for some silly reason it ain't about the money.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 8:10:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pussiboi

Wow...I need to look into this. Then I would be TRULY "owned"---at least during the sessions.


If you have a fair bit of experience in S&M and are well known and respected and have a nice presence, it's something to look into.  I would not recommend it for a novice.
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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 8:14:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		If properly/skillfully done...do you think that there would be much of a market for male-pro-sub services rendered to women?

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 8:14:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
Here's the link complete with pictures of some of available subs: http://www.passivearts.com/ladies2.php?logo=sub&pg=submissive

Have fun!


OMG I could almost walk to there!  hmm, might not be able to walk home though 

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 8:47:25 PM   
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If properly/skillfully done...do you think that there would be much of a market for male-pro-sub services rendered to women?


It's a small market but I would imagine it exists. But he has to have the skills of a very experienced bottom, the ability to endure a lot, the charisma of Johnny Depp, possibly a perfect body (in some cases) and a fully equipped dungeon with a great reputation.

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RE: how much does a pro sub charges? - 1/16/2009 11:30:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pussiboi

If properly/skillfully done...do you think that there would be much of a market for male-pro-sub services rendered to women?


No. Possibly a market in the gay community, but unless you look amazing, and have a great attitude, I don't think there would be too much of anything else.


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