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RE: The Difference - 10/21/2005 7:50:39 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Thanks everyone for the responses! It’s great to see that for some, it has been and continues to be a source of joy, inspiration, happiness and fulfillment. YAY!
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I'd be volunteering all over the vanilla world working towards feeling like I mattered like I did till 7 months ago as my need to serve and concern myself with others joy is too strong to ignore….orig: plantlady64

Only after looking back over the last 20 years of being an adult could this slave realize that every job(paid wage or volunteer)this slave ever had that was fulfilling, that this slave was good at, that this slave could have done for the rest of her life and not tire of was in the context of service subordinate with absolutely no desire to be in charge or climb any corporate ladders. So, yes, there are plenty of ways to serve and be a source of support and joy for others even if we aren’t in a D/s or M/s relationship if the desire to serve and submit are there.
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Our life would be different in that some of the incredible people that we've met through this way of life would probably not be known to us, including some of the people who have lived in service with us…being a part of the BDSM community has enabled us to learn about techniques and philosophies that have enriched our scope and breadth of understanding ourselves and the individuals with whom we share a life….orig: LadiesBladewing

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The D/s community has brought friends, opportunities and acceptance. The drive I had was strong and D/s provides a structured outlet with all the security and confidence building that belonging to a group that I respect can create….orig:ExistentialSteel

The total of the experience has been nothing short of a blessing and this slave is grateful for each and every one of those who have had a part in it. even the things this slave has seen that she hopes Master won’t want to try on her or the people this slave has met that she wouldn’t get any closer to unless Master directed her to them have enriched this slave with knowledge and a better understanding of self.
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In many ways, I think my life would be so much simpler without BDSM. I wouldn't spend nights questioning myself, looking down on myself for having horrible dreams about violence and abuse in sexual situations. I might not consider myself weird and crazy….orig:KittenWithaTwist

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I would not have a sexual life.
Or, perhaps, I would have a very inactive sexual life….orig: perverseangelic

This slave was at the point of Kitten and came to the conclusion of perverse until she found out that there was someone who would actually appreciate her fantasies and what she had to offer instead of vanilla partners who expected something completely different or one night stands with someone who “expected” something outside the norm by buying into some lame redhead stereotype.
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Call it whatever you want, BDSM and this 'lifestyle' have given me back my sanity and let me be me, not what someone else thinks I should be….orig: OscarHargraves

Thank you for not getting lost on the label and sharing the importance of it with regards to your sanity and life. This slave perceives a difference in the quality of not only her life and her sanity but also in that of others whom she shares life with.
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If we had never learned of BDSM, we would probably never have found each other. It was only because we had each discovered BDSM that we were able to put a name on what it is we were seeking and and proactively seek out our complimentary partners….Both of us, upon discovering BDSM, realized that there were others out there who felt similarly and chose to seek fulfillment among our own kind….orig: domtimothy46176

This slave most certainly wouldn’t have crossed Master’s path as we met at at BDSMpersonals. Had this slave not typed those letters in that sequence….had this slave not been looking, in particular for a Dom, she would not have found Master.
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I've never put much stock into any sort of "community". Most bdsm ones I have seen have more politics and backstabbing than a junior high school-and about as much emotional maturity….orig:JustaTop

This slave has experienced what JustaTop speaks of here as well, as with any group that’s only criteria is legal adulthood and consent~the childish behavior and backstabbing types tend to find their own subgroups and thrive there with the others that feed into that crap right along with them. More power to them. Thankfully, they don’t get the designation representative of the group~no one does, only examples of the differences and how it works or doesn’t work for them personally, which was the theme of the post and the basis of this slave’s curiosity.

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RE: The Difference - 10/21/2005 9:44:07 PM   
MasterBenedict


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Hello, wolfie,
Are you by ANY chance familiar with a place near Seattle known as "the Wet Spot"?

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RE: The Difference - 10/21/2005 10:56:55 PM   
JustaTop


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Ultimately,the best matches come from a strong inner core knowledge.

Most of those who find themselves in recurring dysfunctional relationships do it very much from a lack of self knowledge. They have no firm self ideals,and so thier lives are chaotic. Most of the childish and immature types I mentioned suffer from this sort of problem. They would have no need to live so vicariously off of others..If they actually HAD lives of thier own-small stuff would hold no interest for them.

There ARE quality people in any population,but they are not usually the ones shouting so stridently for attention. This is why I tend to ignore brats, and obvious attention sluts. They speak thier baggage and insecurity so loudly,I cannot help but turn away..For they represent torment, just waiting to happen.

There is a point at which fantasies can become reality. Most cultures began with an individual(s) having a series of thoughts that they implimented. They were mere imaginings up until that point.

Most people who do "bdsm" d/s ..whatever you wish to call it-are merely weekend warriors role playing sex games. That's fine,if it makes them happy-but I don't consider it "real".

Overall there is ONE distinction that takes it beyond that to me. That people involved in a relationship manage to SUCCESSFULLY integrate an overall structure that works in a benficial manner, in thier day to day lives. If it only leads to failure-it's still in the fantasy realm.

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RE: The Difference - 10/22/2005 6:36:20 AM   
fyreredsub


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wow what a posting, thank you for such honesty.
it does give this one hope that maybe after wading thro' enough you know what, her desires may be realized.

i was always dominating in bed and rather kinky in the bedroom... yet, submissive in out of the bedroom ,,,
didnt realize it meant domina till coming to do research,i had such a different concept of what BDSM was.
to understand why i wasnt happy/fullfilled as a top, in this type of relationship.
I didnt understand the D/s dynamic, my seeking submission in my day to day life, (altho at work i am a dynamo,instructing and teaching others power)
my need to be contolled, what it is that makes me tick...my walk in this life is yet still new no matter what role in am in,
b/c i never understood before,
i seek knowledge before a partner, b/c i know my standards are near impossible right now,
perhaps it keeps the men somewhat at bay,lol.

how would my life be diff, i think i would be frustrated w/ the walls still up, (perhaps even angry w/ a chip on my shoulder) keeping others out, cause i was tired of the pain

thank you for sharing and asking

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Until 2000, this slave lived a “vanilla” life; expressions of this slave’s “kink” were reserved for fantasies and one night stands ONLY, as it always seemed to wreak havoc in a vanilla setting. Expressions of this slave’s submission were as common as breathing and permeated this slave’s entire life, however, this slave had never been in a relationship with a Dom.

this slave made a conscious decision to spend a year or two of being single, not even dating, just working through past trauma, educating this slave about herself and defining goals so hopefully this slave could be a positive part of a healthy relationship at some point. After 3 years this slave came to the realization of a few things, and three of them are:

1. What defines a meaningful relationship to this slave is, more often than not, in sharp contrast to the definition that this slave’s society deems acceptable, moral and/or legal. However, this slave couldn’t care less about social acceptance.

2. Outside of the realm of a D/s relationship, this slave is NOT cut out for ANY intimate sexual relationships and had she not discovered wiitwd she would remain single and celibate with masturbatory leanings.

3. This slave is not just a physical being, but a spiritual one as well.

This slave was unaware of such a thing as a D/s relationship, and upon discovery, researched it as much as possible over the internet. It seemed to be just the thing this slave was made for. It appealed to this slave physically, emotionally, mentally and after prayer and meditation, spiritually. After meeting Master, becoming His slave and meeting and interacting with many others involved in D/s and/or M/s relationships, it has only strengthened her convictions.

Being in a Master/slave relationship has made a HUGE difference in the quality of this slave’s relationships(yes, ALL of them), in her ability to serve and in the fulfillment of her spiritual purpose.

Now the question:

How would YOUR life be different, if there were no B, D, S or M in it?



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RE: The Difference - 10/22/2005 7:13:48 AM   
gbscloset


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
How would YOUR life be different, if there were no B, D, S or M in it?


I'd be going from one vanilla relationship to the next, being a complete brat, sexually bored, and not understanding why things weren't working out with Mr. Politically Correct Sensitive New Age Guy du jour. Much like my relationship life before the age of 34 when I got online.

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RE: The Difference - 10/22/2005 8:05:11 AM   
pinkpleasures


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BDSM (well, not SM) has already given me two wonderful gifts: first, a self-knowledge that there's nothing wrong with how i feel inside and what i desire; (for most of my life i thought i was a bad person); and wonderful friends who i enjoy so much and who've helped me immeasurably. i DO hope to find my One; but i have already been blessed.

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RE: The Difference - 10/27/2005 8:31:32 PM   
Morgaine289


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ORIGINAL: JustaTop

Ultimately,the best matches come from a strong inner core knowledge.

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Overall there is ONE distinction that takes it beyond that to me. That people involved in a relationship manage to SUCCESSFULLY integrate an overall structure that works in a benficial manner, in thier day to day lives. If it only leads to failure-it's still in the fantasy realm.


I am with you here Just a Top. This is one of the reasons, that till 5 years ago i stayed away from the community. Due to a lot of political work i know how group dynamics work, i was not interested to complicate my flourishing sm-live, because I had never problems finding my man and woman. For me attraction comes first, than lust/maybe developing to friendship or love, and as a my first slave, Rainer (may you rest in love) more than 20 years ago (yes, i started early) put it: We recognize each other. And I do it without outward symbols (chuckles thinking of the o-rings that are thrown around on each munch here:-))

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