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antipode -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/15/2008 11:38:30 PM)

Fatal mistake. Along the lines of "strict romantic loving sadistic.." etc.



Huntertn -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/16/2008 6:02:13 PM)

I've had subs tell me that they don't want love; they rather have a Master that will use them like they want to be used..and they all felt that love just got in the way.  I always thought it was funny how they "all told me how to feel" but left their own feeling in the air......



RavenMuse -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/17/2008 4:57:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BBWnNC72
Maybe it is like OsideGirl said, the protection factor conflicts with the sadistic side.


I can only speak for Myself but that works the other way for Me. she is a maso, she has pain needs, if she was having to address those needs elsewhere then chances are they maybe not as careful to avoid harm as I am. In taking up addressing  those needs Myself I AM protecting her.

Plus she is Mine and addressing those needs is part of the responcibility I took on, not to mention that I damn well enjoy doing so [:D]



Sadisticforslave -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/17/2008 5:22:44 AM)

I have never had a problem with inflicting pleasurable pain because of love.  I also likewise have never had a problem inflicting more then pleasurable pain on one that I love.  Matter of fact the first time I met the slave that I have now I whipped her until she cried.  Even though she was begging me to stop I continued since it was what we had discussed before hand.  Now after 16 years she is still here and has told me before that one of the reasons she wanted me as a Master is that even thou she was crying I did not stop.  In the others that I have had since then it never has been a problem either.  I look at it this way.  they want the pain, they need the pain, I love giving the pain, so what is the problem?  if I don't because I feel something for the slave then they are not getting what they need and I am not getting what I need.  Then the relationship is bound to fail and both of us would move on to others.  So I never let feelings get in the way of using a slave.  And by using I mean everything that I might do to a slave.
Master Jay
It's not just a life, it's a way of living.

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ORIGINAL: BBWnNC72

Greetings All,

i was just wondering if any of You have ever felt different towards a submissive when You have realized that You are in love with that submissive.  Did You ever have a hard time inflicting pleasurable pain because of love? and if so, how did You deal with it?

Many thanks.



GreyWulfen -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/17/2008 12:13:59 PM)

I have never had that problem personally. If I know the sub craves/need/desires pain, and I love her, why would I NOT give it to her, if its in my power to do so? If I knew my sub loved tulips, why would I bring roses?

Having safe words allows me to be as forceful/cruel/sadistic as I desire, and allows her to enjoy it, without either of us having to worry about it going too far. She can beg, cry, plead, scream, whatever and I know that it is still ok.

I have only played with people i have been in relationships of one sort or another. . For me love  just increases the enjoyment as Love just can be one of the strongest emotions and allows for a very deep connection




slaveluci -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/17/2008 3:24:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: velvetears
People who love seek to see the ones they love happy - be it in beating them or worshipping them.  Quite simple really.

Exactly!  Master hurts me BECAUSE He loves me and knows I crave and need it  [image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/smiley/crop.gif[/image]......................luci



meticulousgirl -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/17/2008 7:25:10 PM)

not an issue on my end......

no love to discuss but, this is a good topic....

~meticulous~



LatexHer -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/18/2008 8:34:55 AM)

For me it depends - I am married to a Domme who is a sub to me and I treat her well. I do however whip her when I see that she requires it, and have hurt her at times physically as a form of correction.

Slaves however are a different thing all together.  Slave women who seek to be owned must be treated in the way they require! If you are the Dom and are working on a pain slut, she must have the pain she so desires. A newbie however, must be taken with cautious attitude or risk driving her away.

Many years ago when I was a young man, I had the misfortune to lose several potentially good slaves due to my inexperience and quest for personal pleasure.  I quickly learned that if you take a newbie and use a whip on her to temporarily mark her buttocks hard,  she may not return for more since her expectations were exceeded!

Thankfully today I have greatly matured, learning to listen and allowing a slave to express her desires, before any play begins.
Today I use my mind as a tool to achieve my sadistic pleasures but also am vigilant not to exceed a womans limits. Give them what they need!



BBWnNC72 -> RE: a question of love for sadistic Masters (5/19/2008 8:34:16 AM)

i thank all of You for Your postings.
i have talked more with Him about where we are at.  i am gratefull that one thing He insist on is honest communication.  i explained to Him that even though i understand He loves me, i wish He didn't love me so much because the person i fell in love with is not all here anymore. 
While i am very happy with the vanilla part of our relationship, i so miss the main reason we got together in the first place, the reason we actually met.



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