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KaineD -> Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 5:08:41 AM)

I have a great fetish for seeing women beaten and defeated.  I'm always on the look out in particular for superheroine porn where the heroine gets punched, kicked, belly punched, batons used, and other forms of beating.  In a roleplay aspect I think it would be fun to pretend I'm a kidnaper and pretend like I'm smacking my victim around.

Does this "beating up a girl" fetish even have a name?  Do many others enjoy the same thing?



bipolarber -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 5:30:06 AM)

Offhand, it's probably related to wrestling, or else its humiliation combined with sadisim.

If you like your partner to actually dress up as a superheroine, then it's also role play.






ViceVersa -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 5:32:11 AM)

That seems to fall within the realm of rough body play. The folks I've met who engage in that seem to have a martial arts background so that they know how to hit and be hit without doing serious damage.

Vice



Justme696 -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 5:52:05 AM)

mmm hard to tell..belly punching a lady.....I call those guys assholes .
But that is just an opinion.

a movie is a movie...don't mix that with real life please



slavegirljoy -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 5:52:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KaineD

I have a great fetish for seeing women beaten and defeated.  I'm always on the look out in particular for superheroine porn where the heroine gets punched, kicked, belly punched, batons used, and other forms of beating.  In a roleplay aspect I think it would be fun to pretend I'm a kidnaper and pretend like I'm smacking my victim around.

Does this "beating up a girl" fetish even have a name?  Do many others enjoy the same thing?

Yes.  i would call it Sadism.  Or, if your pleasure is derived from watching others "beating up a girl" then, maybe a sort of voyeuristic sadism would be more acurate,  (although, technically, that would only be the case if you watched secretly).
 
joy
Owned servant of Master David

sadism
n.
1. The deriving of sexual gratification or the tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others.
2. The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
3. Extreme cruelty.



ToTheExtreme -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 5:54:12 AM)

The closest thing that I can think of is biastophilia:

Biastophilia (from Greek biastes, "rape" + -philia) and its Latin language-derived counterpart, raptophilia (from Latin rapere, "to seize"), also paraphilic rape[1], refer to a paraphilia in which sexual arousal is dependent on, or is responsive to, the act of assaulting an unconsenting person, especially a stranger.[2][3] Some dictionaries consider the terms synonymous,[4] while others distinguish raptophilia as the paraphilia in which sexual arousal is responsive to actually raping the victim.[5] The source of the arousal in these paraphilias is the terrified resistance to the assault, [6] and in this respect it is considered to be a form of sexual sadism.[1]



KaineD -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 7:22:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

mmm hard to tell..belly punching a lady.....I call those guys assholes .
But that is just an opinion.

a movie is a movie...don't mix that with real life please


I already said in a roleplay scenario I would 'pretend like I'm smacking my victim', emphasis on pretend.  As in, I would never dream of actually hitting a woman.  Unless she attacked me first!



DiurnalVampire -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 7:27:02 AM)

It definately sounds like voyeruistic sadism to me, since you want to watch it happen, but you dont particularly want to take part.  Sounds like you enjoy the apperance, but not the act. Either way, its sadism, since the pain of the victim is what you are looking for.
If you have the background to know how to beat someone without doing major harm (I have martial arts, so I know where I can hit someone from years of learning to spar safely) then actually hitting them isnt so terrible. Using weapons or other objects is a little riskier, but can still be done safely assuming you learn how.

DV



Constrictor1 -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 7:39:12 AM)

Mysogyny?[:)]
Just kidding. Yes KaineD there are others who like the fantasy aspect of that here.

Constrictor1



ViceVersa -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 7:40:12 AM)

Here's a thread on Hand-to-Hand Combat from a few weeks back:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1830067/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1830115

The demo I saw was actually quite interesting. The presenter (a friend of mine with a martial arts background) did a couple of demos:

1) Involved an interrogation scene with a woman bound to a chair while he punched her on the chest and arms and slapped her face

2) The second involved a dirty old man/school girl scene that takes place at a bus stop. He grabbed her, wrestled her to the ground, ripped her clothes off and simulated getting on top of her.

In between, he talked about the places you can hit and the places you can't and he gave volunteers the opportunity to either be punched/slapped/hair-pulled themselves or to punch/slap/pull his hair. It was done so well as a demo that several woman volunteered to be punched/slapped/hair pulled.

I also know a couple who really get into knock down dragout matches. He usually wins but a couple of times she's gotten the better of him.

Vice



JohnWarren -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 7:40:29 AM)

I'd just call it erotic sadism (to distinguish it from the real sickos).  He hasn't said he doesn't want to.  It's just a lack of opportunity.

To the OP:  Get into your local community and get to know some of the people.  Libby and I are well known for this sort of play and we are constantly in demand by women who have a complementary kink.  Get a reputation for being able to do this in a realistic manner and safely and you'll have more action than you can deal with.  The "helpless victim" scene may be one of the most popular ones for women.  Just read some of Nancy Friday's books and you'll see it how common it is. 

And, yes, there are groups in Ireland. 



ResidentSadist -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 7:53:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KaineD
I have a great fetish for seeing women beaten and defeated.  I'm always on the look out in particular for superheroine porn where the heroine gets punched, kicked, belly punched, batons used, and other forms of beating.  In a roleplay aspect I think it would be fun to pretend I'm a kidnaper and pretend like I'm smacking my victim around.

Does this "beating up a girl" fetish even have a name?  Do many others enjoy the same thing?


quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
Yes.  i would call it Sadism.  Or, if your pleasure is derived from watching others "beating up a girl" then, maybe a sort of voyeuristic sadism would be more acurate,  (although, technically, that would only be the case if you watched secretly).
 
joy
Owned servant of Master David

sadism
n.
1. The deriving of sexual gratification or the tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others.
2. The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
3. Extreme cruelty.
Only 'sexual sadism' is a fetish. I jumped wiki real quick for this because my personal site references are a little biased.  Sadism and ‘sadistic personality disorder’ aren't a fetish (paraphillia).  

-=Sadism vs Sexual Sadism=-

Sadism is the derivation of pleasure as a result of the suffering of others. Aspects of it include:

Sadism and masochism in sexual contexts
Sadism and masochism as medical terms
Sadistic personality disorder



    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Sexual Sadism: the recurrent urge or behavior involving acts in which the pain or humiliation of the victim is sexually exciting.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Sadistic personality disorder is a pervasive pattern of cruel, demeaning, and aggressive behavior, beginning by early adulthood, as indicated by the repeated occurrence of at least four of the following:

    Has used physical cruelty or violence for the purpose of establishing dominance in a relationship (not merely to achieve some noninterpersonal goal, such as striking someone in order to rob him/her).
    Humiliates or demeans people in the presence of others.
    Has treated or disciplined someone under his/her control unusually harshly.
    Is amused by, or takes pleasure in, the psychological or physical suffering of others (including animals).
    Has lied for the purpose of harming or inflicting pain on others (not merely to achieve some other goal).
    Gets other people to do what he/she wants by frightening them (through intimidation or even terror).
    Restricts the autonomy of people with whom he or she has a close relationship, e.g., will not let spouse leave the house unaccompanied or permit teenage daughter to attend social functions.
    Is fascinated by violence, weapons, injury, or torture.


      The behavior has not been directed toward only one person (e.g., spouse, one child) and has not been solely for the purpose of sexual arousal (as in sexual sadism).



      Justme696 -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 7:56:59 AM)

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: KaineD

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: Justme696

      mmm hard to tell..belly punching a lady.....I call those guys assholes .
      But that is just an opinion.

      a movie is a movie...don't mix that with real life please


      I already said in a roleplay scenario I would 'pretend like I'm smacking my victim', emphasis on pretend.  As in, I would never dream of actually hitting a woman.  Unless she attacked me first!


      yeah sorry. Just had a female friend that was several times beaten. Makes me respond a bit fierce.
      my apology



      ProlificNeeds -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 10:48:45 AM)

      As towards directly kicking/punching I've heard it called 'thug-play' before. Perhaps it was merely a privately coined term.



      Justme696 -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 12:30:58 PM)

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds

      As towards directly kicking/punching I've heard it called 'thug-play' before. Perhaps it was merely a privately coined term.


      I heard that some where too.



      Alumbrado -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 12:45:46 PM)

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: Justme696

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: KaineD

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: Justme696

      mmm hard to tell..belly punching a lady.....I call those guys assholes .
      But that is just an opinion.

      a movie is a movie...don't mix that with real life please


      I already said in a roleplay scenario I would 'pretend like I'm smacking my victim', emphasis on pretend.  As in, I would never dream of actually hitting a woman.  Unless she attacked me first!


      yeah sorry. Just had a female friend that was several times beaten. Makes me respond a bit fierce.
      my apology


      And that makes it OK to criticize the kinks of others how?



      Alumbrado -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 12:48:06 PM)

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: KaineD

      I have a great fetish for seeing women beaten and defeated.  I'm always on the look out in particular for superheroine porn where the heroine gets punched, kicked, belly punched, batons used, and other forms of beating.  In a roleplay aspect I think it would be fun to pretend I'm a kidnaper and pretend like I'm smacking my victim around.

      Does this "beating up a girl" fetish even have a name?  Do many others enjoy the same thing?


      With the superheroine element instead of a helpless sub, I suppose one could term it hoplophilia...



      sassysexygirl -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 1:29:34 PM)

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds

      As towards directly kicking/punching I've heard it called 'thug-play' before. Perhaps it was merely a privately coined term.


      greetings A/all

      i was just thinking it sounds like "thug play" ProlificNeeds, so i do not believe it is too private a term.  :)

      well wishes,
      gemmie



      Justme696 -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 1:58:07 PM)

      quote:

      ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

      And that makes it OK to criticize the kinks of others how?


      yes..it does...because not everything can be hidden or justified by the name "kink"
      we are not here ..in the agree to all section



      Alumbrado -> RE: Does this fetish have a name? (5/22/2008 2:04:07 PM)

      Which is why this site has specific rules that pedophelia, actual criminal acts, etc. are not covered under 'kink'...

      Outside of those, this entire site is an 'agree to all', and you agreed to not call people 'assholes' for their choice of fantasies when you signed up.

      quote:

      This isn't a place to insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc. of others. If you don't like what another person enjoys, rest assured that there are plenty of others out there that probably don't like your activities either. Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.


      People have all sorts of other fantasies... the fantasy of being called racial epithets has been brought up, rape and kidnap fantasies, AB, scat, and many more... you don't have to approve of them to refrain from calling those who enjoy them, names.



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