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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:33:52 PM

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meanwhile we likely send foriegn aid....

We should be sending troops to stop this.

Western Civilization hasn't been perfect but it is the best this planet has known. Of course, should America and Great Britain try through force of arms to stop this, all the bleeding hearts and their isolationist cohorts would do every thing they could to stop it.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:35:34 PM

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Damn... is there anything on this earth that is NOT the fault of western society?!!!

The majority of humanity believes homosexuality is wrong... they believe it now and they believed it before us western devils landed on their shores... I and my forefathers are not the cause of everything evil on this earth.

Homophobia has been around since we developed into two sexes and will be around a long time.

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Please cite your source for this anthropological claim that homophobia has existed since we split into two sexes. We split into sexes when we were microbial lifeforms floating around in the ocean. Our closest living relatives in the wild are chimpanzees and bonobos. Both of those primates species exhibit homosexual behavior. The bonobos are the biggest freaks in the primate world. They fuck each other on any occasion.

Now from a modern human standpoint, homosexuality has existed and been celebrated in many cultures around the world before the arrival of the Abrahamic religious traditions. It was not frowned upon in it's totality. Depending on the culture, there were just certain ettiquittes that went along with the practice as there is with heterosexual conduct.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:36:13 PM

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I don't think you can take a very large section of this earth...split it between many different cultures... and all of a sudden people become homophobic in the same way and the same time...on a earth time scale anyway.

So to answer your question…I did not read it because it is psycho bullshit….There is a lot of that out there.

The above is just my opinion...it may be right or wrong. I am not easily influenced and I don’t believe you as a thinking human are either.

There is something basic in a truly straight person’s thinking about a homosexual…They just can’t understand how they can feel that way.

It makes Western society uncomfortable and it makes South Sea societies uncomfortable as well… it makes all societies uncomfortable… It has from the beginning and will till the end.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:37:27 PM

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An ethnological study, 'psycho bullshit'... okay, let's reject all academic research and pretend we can't read it.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:42:20 PM

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An ethnological study, 'psycho bullshit'... okay, let's reject all academic research and pretend we can't read it.

Since both Masters and Johnson and Kinsey pretended to do actual research, I think we are better off pretending we had read both.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:45:44 PM

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Please kittinSol... just because something is written and it is called academic research does not make it right. Remember many academics wrote and thought the earth was flat.

We all must take in information then make judgments on its validity...If you have represented the study properly above then I can reject it outright with common since.

Remember it is just my opinion but I think it is a better representation of human nature then your study.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:46:10 PM

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Now from a modern human standpoint, homosexuality has existed and been celebrated in many cultures around the world before the arrival of the Abrahamic religious traditions. It was not frowned upon in it's totality. Depending on the culture, there were just certain ettiquittes that went along with the practice as there is with heterosexual conduct.

In many places following the arrival of Abrahamic religious traditions.

Of course...

Even in societies where homosexuality flourished, never was the idea of marriage even remotely entertained.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 8:47:45 PM

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I don't think you can take a very large section of this earth...split it between many different cultures... and all of a sudden people become homophobic in the same way and the same time...on a earth time scale anyway.

It didn't happen "all of a sudden." The first true monotheistic religion, Zoroastianism never mentions it as far as I know. Hinudism and Buddism do not frown upon it, but they do frown upon lust. The first written condemnation of it that I am aware of was in the Talmud. Christianity and Islam are rooted in those writings, and they didn't spread into Europe and the Middle East for thousands of years. It took awhile for a collective bias against homosexuals to take root. Now there are a myriad of reasons why the Hebrews might have thought it a good idea to condemn the practice. Hell, I am willing to accept that it might have even been a perfectly rational reason. But the fact remains that it didn't become a taboo subject in most societies until the arrival of Abrahamic religions.

I am not attacking Western culture. I am one of it's biggest defenders, but it's completely ignorant to assume everything we have done in the past 1500 years has been all good.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 9:02:31 PM

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I think this way…. If society can be influenced so easily then there would be NO homosexuals… If I were straight no influence…culture… or rule would make me gay.
If gay no influence…culture…or rule would make me straight.

Since there have been gays…are gays… and will be gays… then no influence or culture will change that fact.

And since the majority have not understood…do not understand…and will not in the future understand… then culture does not have a damn thing to do with it.

It is just basic in human nature.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 9:15:05 PM

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Even in societies where homosexuality flourished, never was the idea of marriage even remotely entertained.

I don't think that's entirely correct.

'Civil unions between male couples existed around 600 years ago in medieval Europe, a historian now says.
Historical evidence, including legal documents and gravesites, can be interpreted as supporting the prevalence of homosexual relationships hundreds of years ago, said Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania.' http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20464004/

I have read about similar occurences in medieval Russia, where some of these unions even had special ceremonies within the Russian Orthodox Church. Here's a link: Adelphopoiia Rite - A Same Gender Union from the Eastern Orthodox Church.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 9:22:36 PM

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I think this way…. If society can be influenced so easily then there would be NO homosexuals… If I were straight no influence…culture… or rule would make me gay.
If gay no influence…culture…or rule would make me straight.

Since there have been gays…are gays… and will be gays… then no influence or culture will change that fact.

And since the majority have not understood…do not understand…and will not in the future understand… then culture does not have a damn thing to do with it.

It is just basic in human nature.

Well the existence of homosexuals is not what you were arguing. You were claiming that homophobia has always been widespread across all cultures. The argument you just made doesn't even make any sense in reference to the claims you made earlier. I never said that culture turned people away from homosexuality. I said it changed attitudes among heterosexuals toward homosexuals. It didn't wipe out homosexuality, it just drove it underground. If you don't think culture and people are easily influenced, than you need to read up on your history a little. In the past century alone several individuals have convinced entire nations that certain people were bad and should be exterminated in mass.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 9:22:40 PM

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Wait, didn't I just read (right in these forums!) that homosexuality occurs everywhere in nature? Does that mean he's going to kill all the zebras too?

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 9:30:15 PM

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No slaveboyforyou I don't think sexual preference can be changed by a culture influence...AND..I also don't think how the majority reacts to it is influenced by culture either...that is my point and our difference

I'll bet cavemen went around beating pussy homos over the head with clubs...and colonists on Mars will sap them with ray guns in the future as well...

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/22/2008 9:51:31 PM

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sexual preference can be changed by a culture influence

this much like gender...can not be changed by anyone.

we are who we are for a reason. just as we are sub, slave, switch or dom.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/23/2008 1:09:07 AM

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When they came to my village I was young.

They killed anyone they didnt like and tortured and threatened the rest to take the baptism of their Christ. They burnt and smashed everything of our old ways. The two priests of the old ways who lived together got the worst of it - well, I call them priests, but one always wore women's clothes and we all saw her as a bit special; not a man, but not quite a woman either - that was probably where our priestess got her gift, but I forget now, I'm old. Some of the men in our village thought it funny that our priestess was really a man, and there were always hushed laughs about the two of them when we were working, but no one was angry with them.

After that, the Christians told us they would be back at some time, and anyone who was following the old ways still, would be put to death along with their family. They offered gold to everyone, to inform on his neighbour.

We appealed to the king for help - but then found that all this was on the orders of the king, and he sent more men to kill us all and take our lands for defying him.

So we took to our ships and came here to Iceland, and have lived here for two generations now in peace, with what is left of our old ways. And now, the followers of the White Christ come here too. These are cruel men who talk of love and peace and deal in pain and war. Do not defy them; for the sake of the women and the children, do not defy them. Keep the old ways - but in your mind alone.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/23/2008 1:36:02 AM

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General reply -

I can't find a quote where this man actually says he is going to "kill all homosexuals", either in the linked article or in several other reports on this incident. Can anyone enlighten me?

I have though, seen reports where he issued an ultimatum that homosexuals, foreigners and all criminals must quit the country and said that they could not live in the Gambia while he was alive. I also wondered if his remarks were translated accurately from Fula or Wolof, which are the main languages there.

The Gambia is home to 1.5million people, making it Africa's smallest country and it survives on tourism. Its unlikely that calls to drive all foreigners from the country are credible, so I'd doubt this message on that basis alone. However, sex tourism is big there; its certainly well-known as a popular destination for mature British singles of both genders but sadly, increasingly this involves activities with minors which TOS do not allow me to describe.

It may well be that President Jammeh was addressing a separate group and that his remarks were mis-translated as applying to all gays. Whatever the case, I'll definitely wait for more information before I condemn anyone on the basis of this report.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/23/2008 1:51:44 AM

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well this already going on for ages in AFrica. That continent is rotten to its core. Generation afther generation is raised in blood and weird thoughts.
To a certain level you can help...then..excuse the language...let them be. You can stop perhaps a little while the effects, but ot the cause.
How often did the world and africa not try to help them. When you leave,,it continues.
Either you crush the bad guys really hard..meaning killing them....or accept people to continue as they did for a long time.
Takes at least 2 or 3 generations to get this shit way of life out of this system.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/23/2008 1:54:23 AM

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When you reacquaint yourself with the real world, please stop by again.

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/23/2008 1:57:18 AM

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if you make a statement...please explain
else it has no vallue

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RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual - 5/23/2008 2:00:20 AM

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well this already going on for ages in AFrica. That continent is rotten to its core. Generation afther generation is raised in blood and weird thoughts.
To a certain level you can help...then..excuse the language...let them be. You can stop perhaps a little while the effects, but ot the cause.
How often did the world and africa not try to help them. When you leave,,it continues.
Either you crush the bad guys really hard..meaning killing them....or accept people to continue as they did for a long time.
Takes at least 2 or 3 generations to get this shit way of life out of this system.

There will be law, order and stability in Africa JM696.

Once the Chinese and Indians have increased their standard of living to the point where they are no longer viable places for manufacturing, they will look to Africa for cheap, plentiful labour.

Law, order and stability will be imposed by way of the same mechanisms which made our colonialism successful until we developed a social consience, and for the same reasons - lawlessness and instability are not good for ensuring profitable exploitation.

Machine guns will rattle into the night, and shareholder value will increase with every rebel killed.

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