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This is from :
http://www.uhuh.com/laws/warpow.htm
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Reading further in the memorandum, again from the case of The Rapid:
"The law of prize is part of the law of nations. In it, a hostile character is attached to trade, independently of the charter of the trader who pursues or directs it. Condemnation to the use of the captor is equally the fate of the property of the belligerent and of the property found engaged in anti-neutral trade. But a citizen or an ally may be engaged in a hostile trade, and thereby involve his property in the fate of those in whose cause he embarks".
Again from the memorandum:
"The produce of the soil of the hostile territory, as well as other property engaged in the commerce of the hostile power, as the source of its wealth and strength, are always regarded as legitimate prize, without regard to the domicile of the owner".
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"But it is necessary always to bear in mind that a war cannot be carried on without hurting somebody, even at times, our own citizens. The public good, however must prevail over private gain. As we said in Bishop vs. Jones (28 Texas, 294) there cannot be "a war for arms and a peace of commerce". One of the most important features of the bill is that which provides for the temporary taking over of the enemy property".
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This is not all I have read. There is a section I am looking for through my papers which gives references to a legal definition of booty and prize. Each are considered the property of the victor, the only difference is that one was siezed on land and the other on the sea. I will try to find it, I know I read it. Boils down to that the spoils go to the victor. And it is law.
Assuming that IIRC, that would mean that Iraqi oil belongs to the US, and by extension, the Citizens. As such we should only be paying bare minimum for gas and oil. Taxpayer money started this mess, and continues to feed it. Therefore who is it getting that hundred and change for a barrel of oil ? You can't tell me that it is that expensive to setup some oil rigs, compared to the cost of running a war.
We should be paying for the amotization of the rigs and transportation and refining costs. That oil does not belong to the oil companies, it belongs to us. So who is getting all this money. Don't start that the costs are justified, all the sudden the price jumped.
What's more in the early days of the invasion they did pump oil, they had it up and running and for a time without meters.
It seems that oil is the new money. While it may be true that this shit started at the behest of Israel and/or some other nations, the fact is that our supposed leaders were very easily talked into it. They spread the wealth they steal from us among their cronies.
The fact is that there are countries that support us. Saudi Arabia is not well liked by Iraqis, the Iranians love to see us in Iraq so we can't really bother them right now. Russia and China are sitting on their hands thinking "Let them idiots do it", and in the case of Afganistan, the Russians gave up. They are laughing at us. The Chinese are sitting back collecting, laying in wait to unpeg the yuan, unless they already have. Chavez is probably having a party.
The fact is we are seriously are fucking up, or this government is anyway, but they spread no wealth among their constituents. Well that can't really be 100% true because Cheney surely voted for Bush, if he voted.
And don't give me how much it is in other countries or wherever, those prices fund other public works, such as health care and roads. Actually that doesn't work out too bad, and I heard California was considering something like it years ago. The theory being that a heavier vehicle uses more fuel, but a heavy vehicle, let's say a semi truck. It is heavier, whoever operates it pays more. They are extremely encouraged to cut fuel consumption, which inherently would reduce the pollution they produce. Funding health care means when people get injured they do not lose their house. I don't know what the subrogation laws are, but I'd bet they are only invoked in cases of willful misconduct or negligenge. Semi trucks do alot more damage in an accident than a car.(Note at bottom)
Also truck tear the road up alot more than cars. So if you split the funds up from these ridiculous taxes on the gas, petrol or benzine, you have something that might have a half a chance at sustaining itself. Maybe, if there is too much greed.
Shit what am I talking about.
I think part of it is that Europeans watch each other more closely. I could be wrong here and will graciously accept any input on that subject. Whereas the US sheeple just take their word for everything. There are ways in which they control the people here that are well thought out, planned and scripted by experts. I am starting to think that if Bush laid a huge burden on his expense account for a Lear jet he could just tell the people that his kids wanted one. They're not there now, but if the current trend continues .........
They count on people not knowing the law. They count on people content with video games and TV news.
They don't count on people who have a full set of questions and can think on their feet. People who read, correspond internationally and things like that. You don't need that, get on myspace and get a date. Go to Netflix. Buy candy and pastry instead of real food and get sick so you depend on their system, after all they depend on your vote.
And THE LAST thing they want is anyone who can get on the media or anything of the sort who will ask "Just who is getting that $130 a barrel for the oil our kids fought and died for, and by the way, where were your kids ?".
I think there are quite a few people who would like to hear a valid answer to that. We sacrifice, they benefit, is that what we fucking pay them for ?
T
Note : The state of California was not able to do this because it would interfere with interstate commerce. Think of a truck driving into CA, well they have already paid all kinds of road use taxes and all that in every other state in which they operate. One of two things would happen, either the court challenges would be too much PITA, or they would have to have some sort of rebate system. This would require alot of record keeping and would certainly drive up the cost of doing business in CA. Like we want that ! The only way to make it work would be if all states did it. Eliminate other taxes and put it all on the fuel. But first we need a cheap source of oil, and I think we have found that having a war is not the way to do it.
T
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