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Snuffed smurfs - 10/23/2005 9:42:37 AM   
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The UNICEF clip can be seen on MSNBC (which, of course, enables only Internet Explorer). Belgian people sometimes have interesting ads : another one I saw showed people dining, one loudly saying that what the economy needs is a new war. The camera moves, we see the guy is in a wheeling chair. An off-screen voice says : "This person is disabled, but above all, he's a cunt". It's an ad in favour of disabled people, of course.
I just thought it was an interesting ad. It's not about a war in particular, but the funds raised by UNICEF Belgium will go to Burundi and the area, the images here show why... there's another version, with french comments. Somehow, this ad, shown (for free) at a time when children are supposed to sleep, was considered shocking by people outside Belgium. Which I don't understand : Are they shocked that UNICEF didn't use real images, or that they used the smurfs (which the family of Peyo fully supported)), or that they dared to say that wars are not only a good business (mainly for the main weapon exporters USA, UK, Russia, France and China) ? So if any of you is shocked by this little clip, I'd sure like to know why.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/23/2005 10:43:31 AM   
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Somehow this all seems very European.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/23/2005 10:57:33 AM   
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Somehow this all seems very European.

Actually it was designed for a belgian audience, and frankly sometimes it's hard to understand belgian people (Belgium is the little country from which are many famous "french" singers (Jacques Brel for example) or cartoonists). But I don't understand why this ad would be considered "shocking".

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/23/2005 12:50:35 PM   
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Somehow this all seems very European.

Actually it was designed for a belgian audience, and frankly sometimes it's hard to understand belgian people (Belgium is the little country from which are many famous "french" singers (Jacques Brel for example) or cartoonists). But I don't understand why this ad would be considered "shocking".



Have the completely gone out of their smurfing minds? ;-)

I don't know if I consider the advert shocking, but it is slightly disturbing. But I'd say in this era where people are so blasé and nothing much shocks them anymore. Does it take something like this, bringing us back to our childhood loves (hides her box of 200 schtroumpfs) and essentially terrorizing us? Good question. Obviously the producers of this advert thought so.

Btw, Belgium is also the country where fries come from and you French took all the credit!! So they aren't French Fries or Freedom Fries, they are Belgian Fries! And don't even think of highjacking the waffles!

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/23/2005 3:18:52 PM   
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I don't know if I consider the advert shocking, but it is slightly disturbing. But I'd say in this era where people are so blasé and nothing much shocks them anymore. Does it take something like this, bringing us back to our childhood loves (hides her box of 200 schtroumpfs) and essentially terrorizing us? Good question. Obviously the producers of this advert thought so.


Well I'm not sure; Look at the news reports : flooded areas with corpses floating, bombs bursting in air (and flag still there), mothers crying over the dead bodies of their children, children dying of starvation (while I'm eating, how indecent !)... at least that's the kind of news report I get here. I guess you see the same thing, except if you only watch the news reports of the Disney channel. There's nothing scarier than the news report, if we really pay attention. Maybe using something unreal as the smurfs, those little nice blue guys, can reach us and suddenly make us realize that the news reports about all these kids dying and killing each other in Sierra Leone, Burundi etc are real. Very real, and unacceptable. And here are these guys who can do a little something about it, with just a little extra money. I thought it's a very good ad.

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Btw, Belgium is also the country where fries come from and you French took all the credit!! So they aren't French Fries or Freedom Fries, they are Belgian Fries! And don't even think of highjacking the waffles!

But we invented the crêpes ! Haha ! Well, OK, Brittany probably wasn't french when crêpes were invented but anyway... plus the Bretons also claim the belgian fries. Oh, a funny thing I just remember from childhood. In elementary school we have lessons about "our ancestors the Gauls" (), and there's a list of things we have to learn about them. And one of the most important is that they invented the casks (for barley beer, not wine).

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/23/2005 3:35:35 PM   
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I don't know if I consider the advert shocking, but it is slightly disturbing. But I'd say in this era where people are so blasé and nothing much shocks them anymore. Does it take something like this, bringing us back to our childhood loves (hides her box of 200 schtroumpfs) and essentially terrorizing us? Good question. Obviously the producers of this advert thought so.


Well I'm not sure; Look at the news reports : flooded areas with corpses floating, bombs bursting in air (and flag still there), mothers crying over the dead bodies of their children, children dying of starvation (while I'm eating, how undecent !)... at least that's the kind of news report I get here. I guess you see the same thing, except if you only watch the news reports of the Disney channel. There's nothing scarier than the news report, if we really pay attention. Maybe using something unreal as the smurfs, those little nice blue guys, can reach us and suddenly make us realize that the news reports about all these kids dying and killing each other in Sierra Leone, Burundi etc are real. Very real, and unacceptable. And here are these guys who can do a little something about it, with just a little extra money. I thought it's a very good ad.


I guess that's what I meant to say but you said it better then me. Yes the news is scary when you really stop to think and look at it. But how many people really stop and look at it (much less read it!). The smurfs get people to stop and think. I agree with your analysis.

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Btw, Belgium is also the country where fries come from and you French took all the credit!! So they aren't French Fries or Freedom Fries, they are Belgian Fries! And don't even think of highjacking the waffles!

But we invented the crêpes ! Haha ! Well, OK, Brittany probably wasn't french when crêpes were invented but anyway... plus the Bretons also claim the belgian fries. Oh, a funny thing I just remember from childhood. In elementary school we have lessons about "our ancestors the Gauls" ( ), and there's a list of things we have to learn about them. And one of the most important is that they invented the casks (for barley beer, not wine).


Ok. But who invented the Baguette? The Belgians, the Bretons or the French ;-)

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/23/2005 4:00:02 PM   
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Ok. But who invented the Baguette? The Belgians, the Bretons or the French ;-)


If you ask a Spaniard, I know the answer you'll get. Any Spaniard say that they invented fútbol (which English people spell football, and it's a mere coincidence that it sounds like 2 english words) and probably went to the moon before Armstrong. But in fact, a frenchman went to the moon first : Savinien Cyrano de Bergerac. He even wrote a book about his travel which I had the opportunity to read in a US university library (in a venerable edition). He was the first writer to be the hero of a play. That was much before Shakespeare in love etc.

I have to edit that, because the wiki article about Cyrano is unfair. One scene from a play of Molière (Les fourberies de Scapins), that most children learn by heart (I did) at 12 yo, was written 350 years ago by Cyrano. Geez, if he hadn't been talented, I don't think we'd still be talking about him now. Can you imagine anyone knowing what "Britney Spears" means, in 2350 ? OK, she hasn't written anything, but you see what I mean.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/24/2005 12:51:59 PM   
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Shocking? Nope. Funny? Yep.

La la la la la la

Does it get any better than blown up smurfs. Baby smurf crying (where did he come from anyway - I mean I know Gargamele made Smurfette, but baby smurf?) Smurf village literally smurfed. It is smurfing great.

Besides, no smurfs were actually smurfed in the making of the UNICEF commercial. So stop being so smurfing sensitive.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/24/2005 1:54:30 PM   
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Does it get any better than blown up smurfs. Baby smurf crying (where did he come from anyway - I mean I know Gargamele made Smurfette, but baby smurf?) Smurf village literally smurfed. It is smurfing great.


The baby smurf smurfed for the first smurf in the 12th album, published in 1984. I'm not smurfing you how the smurf he smurfed, I'll let you smurf this album (which is not the smurfest).

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/24/2005 6:23:31 PM   
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Does it get any better than blown up smurfs. Baby smurf crying (where did he come from anyway - I mean I know Gargamele made Smurfette, but baby smurf?) Smurf village literally smurfed. It is smurfing great.


The baby smurf smurfed for the first smurf in the 12th album, published in 1984. I'm not smurfing you how the smurf he smurfed, I'll let you smurf this album (which is not the smurfest).


Now the real question is who is baby smurf's dad! Or was it such a big smurf bang that we'll never know...

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/24/2005 8:32:42 PM   
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Baby smurf's mom got bangbred.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/25/2005 6:40:03 AM   
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The smurfs should have been nucked years ago. Now we just need a full air assult on the care bears, a terrorist attack on the chipmunks, an oil tanker busted over the snorks, and a whip cracked over the pony's to break them in.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/25/2005 10:16:31 AM   
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Great, it is in smurfing FRENCH!!! I hate the French, what the smurf??? Can you just pleaseeeeee tell me where baby smurf, smurfing came from. Sheesh.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/25/2005 10:41:34 AM   
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Ok, ok......I'll tell you..............


Every blue moon, a baby smurf appears in the village.

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/25/2005 10:43:49 AM   
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Great, it is in smurfing FRENCH!!! I hate the French, what the smurf??? Can you just pleaseeeeee tell me where baby smurf, smurfing came from. Sheesh.

I'm sorry, I don't have the 12th album. I have the 13th, which is about the little smurfs : Three murfs were asked by papa smurf to go get something at Mr. Time's house, but they went into his clock, which goes backwards, and therefore they become younger, and smaller. That doesn't quite reply your smurf, but it's smurf, isn't it ?

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/25/2005 10:46:14 AM   
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Ok, ok......I'll tell you..............


Every blue moon, a baby smurf appears in the village.

Wow ! that's so smurf ! How often are blue smurfs ?

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RE: Snuffed smurfs - 10/25/2005 12:44:40 PM   
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Ok, ok......I'll tell you..............


Every blue moon, a baby smurf appears in the village.

Wow ! that's so smurf ! How often are blue smurfs ?


A blue moon happens everytime a smurf pulls down his trousers and wiggles his behind.

And I quite prefer LaM's theory of bang breeding, but then again, I'm smurfing wicked!

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