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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 10:34:08 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Gas won't go to $6 gallon, people won't be able to afford it.
It's like that $5 head of lettuce if we don't let illegal aliens in, they'll rot in the produce section. People simply won't buy lettuce anymore.
We're at $3.75 a gallon in S.C. and already businesses are feeling it!
I only fill my tank half way, why should I be "storing" gas for the oil companies and adding an extra 100 pounds which cuts into my mileage by filling up the tank?
The world is awash in oil!
Russia alone has more known reserves than the entire middle east and that's just what they know about! And look on a map, Russia is huge! It spans 14 different time zones.
And they just made an enormous find off of Brazil.
And in a few years the technology will allow drilling to a depth of 30 miles, way past the 6 or 8 miles they do now.
Alot of this is pure "speculation" Greed by Wall Street.
As for where we'll be in the future Warren Buffet said we're already in recession and that it will last longer and be deeper than most people think.
We need to get out of these "free trade" deals brokered by the lawyers and lobbyists in Washington and start manufacturing things in this country again.
If we don't, we're going to be in big trouble and that means a Depression.


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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 10:58:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the U.S. economy and consumer opinions and habits will evolve from being subjected to enormous rises in gas prices.  Businesses everywhere will have to find new ways to deal with the enormous burden of fuel costs, and other non-dependent on fuel businesses will have to deal with attracting the same amount of business or cutting costs due to a more depressed economy.  Consumers will look at their dwindling savings and will cut back on spending in other areas besides fuel.  At some tipping point, consumers will start to find ways to lower the amount of fuel they use (instead of cutting back in other areas) as the costs of fuel continue to rise and hope of fuel prices ever going back down dwindles... 

Businesses directed at eco-friendly practices, in recycling, decrease in precious resource consumption, and alternatives fuels will continue to grow exponentially and it will finally become mainstream popular to be environmentally conscious as a new generation enters the workforce and adulthood. 

The attitude and direction of the country will depend on who's elected President.  The president will have to be smart, a risk-taker, and have a great vision for our country.  For our country to not only survive, but thrive under hard times, we will need a leader (and not a manager).  The leader will not try to improve our broken system, but will uncourage the individual to use their lives and efforts to change the system.  The leader will encourage each individual to dig deep within themselves and find what is good and right, and empower them to do what they can with what they have for themselves and for their country.  The leader will implement policies that will help the normal individual, showing them that their country actually cares about them and is worth fighting for.  The leader, will give them a greater vision than what is around them, a vision that is worth fighting for, a vision that is possible with a country with such vast resources of man power, material, wealth, and knowledge.  The leader will bring focus to what is now chaos.  Yes, the attitude of America and it's direction for the next 50 years will depend on the next few years.  If we choose wrong, and continue our wallowing down the wrong listless weak, path, controlled by our enemies... the long term consequences can be disastrous.  If we choose to be run be fear, and not by strength, the will, the heart, and the work ethic of the American people will be wasted.  We will need to choose wisely.  In God we Trust.  And in God, I trust that the American people will use their most envyed power in the world, the power to vote for our leader, and choose wisely.  God bless and peace out.
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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 11:06:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		We are already seing a rebirth of our town square because people want local stores.  If this continues, we will see a larger farmers' market here to help with the cost of food as well as local stores to provide other necessities.  My wife is opening a shop that caters to people who knit, quilt, crochet, and even spin their own yarns.  There is a growing interest in these things because people are tired of buying crap from walmart and then having to replace it because it fell apart leaving only a "made in _______(insert 3rd world country here) tag intact.
To be honest, the higher gas prices are actually helping my town in a strange way because they're making people look to their neighbors for help.  I think that I will be living in a small town that has relearned how to take care of itself in 5 years.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 11:10:38 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		All the govt. has to do is ration gasoline to make the prices go back down to $1.50 per gallon.
Everyone gets 25 gallons a week.
THEN you'll hear the oil companies complaining, "Whoa! Whoa! There's plenty of gasoline!"
But, with this POS in the W.H. who's friends are in the oil business I just don't see it happening until after Jan of '09.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 11:24:42 PM   
Irishknight


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Status: offline 		I doubt we'll ever see 1.50 again in my lifetime.  As for the pres and the oil companies, there hasn't been a president in my lifetime who didn't suck big oil dick to some extent.  This one is merely continuing the line.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 11:36:51 PM   
chickpea


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Status: offline 		I think that's great.  Someone being self-sustaining, opening their own shop, and the other people supporting that locally...maybe even through ebay ;).  Nice you're in a small town where everyone knows and cares about each other.  I'm a city slicker, so that's just great to know that that's possible out in areas not dominated by the over-abundance of chain stores.  Yea, with all the crap going on, it's great to see all the resilience come out: developing creative solutions etc.  Actually for those really short couple of block trips now, I ride my bike or walk during the day now.  That takes just as long, cuts my fuel costs in half, and keeps me healthy.  Being from L.A., for the longest time everything except cars are obselete.  Think this is changing now...

I mean cars are great and all... can go wherever and whenever, super fast.  And if gas were as abundant and cheap as tap water, so much the better.  But always a flipside, like with all the parents picking up the kids and driving them to school, with all the sex offenders out there, kids don't get as much excercise, especially with all the super-size things and convenience out there that makes life just a bit too easy.  Diabetes etc is becoming an epidemic, and discipline is sliding downhill.  I think in a few years, we can turn things around and use the energy crunch in positive ways.  Maybe have group walks to school, or something.  

Just the littlest things are at the heart of great futures.  Plant those little seeds, and keep watering.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 11:49:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The rich will be even richer. The poor and middle classes will be even poorer, but will kiss the hand that enslaves them. 


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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 11:57:20 PM   
chickpea


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Status: offline 		Hrmm, guess i don't remember the Carter years or was it Reagan?.. with all the rationing.  I think prices will skyrocket even more by the end of the year at the very least.  his last hoorah until he's tossed back to the oil fields of Texas. 

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/25/2008 4:32:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		5 years huh?     Cars wont sell at all.  The industry has long stood in the way of 75+ MPG.

Marketers will figure out how to beam your money -extracting it from you.  Noise will be so bold that people will turn off as much as possible. Cell calls will be interupted  by commercials, which you will have to "talk to" in order to further operate the phone.

CODEX laws will be in effect 2010, thus making vitamins a drug via perscription.

Monsanto will manage to tradmark/copywrite a living organism.

Thoughts will be monitised, privatised, controlled  by methods to induce compliance and keep we the slaves on the plantation.

Every road will be a toll road- automatically deducted from your "account" with congestion pricing.

Red lights wont turn green unless the motorist verbally replies to the ad that flickers in the light itself.   same thing with tolls.   failing to saying the proper words will trigger your car to decelerate and pull to the emergency lane; where a fine will be assessed to your account and license.

Robber barons will take over.

Gas, oil, fuel- wont be $15, but simply might not be available.

Wall street will deduct a spread from your account- every "transaction" you make- , walk 20 feet on sidewalk-  pay fee.  drink from water fountain, pay fee.  look at the sunset, pay fee. flsuh a toilet pay fee.  weight too- fee to walk thru a parking lot will be based on the body weight.

Tvs will turn them self on.  monitors everywhere. even built into the sidewalk,  telephone poll, projected onto lake, waterfronts.

bird chirps will be re-programmed to chirp jingo for a big named company.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/25/2008 4:51:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Gas won't go to $6 gallon, people won't be able to afford it.
It's like that $5 head of lettuce if we don't let illegal aliens in, they'll rot in the produce section. People simply won't buy lettuce anymore.
We're at $3.75 a gallon in S.C. and already businesses are feeling it!
I only fill my tank half way, why should I be "storing" gas for the oil companies and adding an extra 100 pounds which cuts into my mileage by filling up the tank?
The world is awash in oil!
Russia alone has more known reserves than the entire middle east and that's just what they know about! And look on a map, Russia is huge! It spans 14 different time zones.
And they just made an enormous find off of Brazil.
And in a few years the technology will allow drilling to a depth of 30 miles, way past the 6 or 8 miles they do now.
Alot of this is pure "speculation" Greed by Wall Street.
As for where we'll be in the future Warren Buffet said we're already in recession and that it will last longer and be deeper than most people think.
We need to get out of these "free trade" deals brokered by the lawyers and lobbyists in Washington and start manufacturing things in this country again.
If we don't, we're going to be in big trouble and that means a Depression.



Sure it can go to $6 a gallon....we keep increasing demand while refusing to build refineries it doesnt matter how much crude oil is on the market or how much Russia has or how much is 30 miles deep. We have hit a bottle-neck with refining capacity.

That is one of the main reasons gas prices are soaring right now. Supply of crude is not the problem. There is plenty of oil on the market. Oil prices are going up because of speculators, weak dollar, and limited refining capacity. Even if OPEC ups production, it would only shave off $10-$20 a barrel in the short-term.

We need to drill domestically and we need to build refineries and the price of oil and gas in America would plummit! We would be paying $2.00 a gallon if we drill the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska. Did you know a few years ago the Saudis offered to build refineries for us? The United States Senate refused to even give the idea the time of day because of the environmental lobby. If any Senator even dares suggest to build a refinery, he'll be beaten to death. We havn't built a refinery in this country in over 30 years. And the reason why is because the environmentalists want the price of oil to surge. They think this will force people to consume less and thus pollute the earth less.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/25/2008 5:03:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Obama would have had a successful first term in office, not that he's done much but he's had wonderful PR. He's assassinated at the beginning of his second term  and gains a reputation like JFK, who similarly did nothing or nothing good, (he only commissioned the Bay of Pigs Fiasco, expanded the war in SE Asia and got assassinated). Things will pretty much the same.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/25/2008 6:02:31 AM   
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With no other industries, then we’ll be in places like this:
New federal prison project ahead of schedule, officials say
http://www.register-herald.com/local/local_story_129223018.html
Because of things like this:
Closing of prison to hurt State Fair
http://www.plainsman.com/V2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=&story_id=3903
And this:
The prison industry in the United States: big business or a new form of slavery?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8289
All Hail Private Enterprise, Except When......Layoffs Coming to Prison Labor?
http://watchingthewatchers.org/news/1399/all-hail-private-enterprise-except
And when your done there, or the only other job available, you can go here.
http://www.army.com/resources/item/2149
Because Uncle Sam Wants Thugs And Illegal Aliens
As long as your hetero.
And if/when you come back from that you can look forward to:
Invest in veterans, not war
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=691089&category=OPINION&newsdate=5/25/2008&TextPage=1
And that will happen as long as it has the capacity to become a frigging tourist attraction for anyone not sent to either. Every last drop, man, every last drop.
Tomorrow’s home for soldiers of today
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/371538.html




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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/25/2008 7:19:02 AM   
Irishknight


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ORIGINAL: chickpea

Hrmm, guess i don't remember the Carter years or was it Reagan?.. with all the rationing.  I think prices will skyrocket even more by the end of the year at the very least.  his last hoorah until he's tossed back to the oil fields of Texas. 

It was during the Carter years that the fake gas shortage occured.  It was manufactured tomake the prices rise just as they are doing today.

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